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Re: Questions about Morale

--- In VBAM@yahoogroups.com, "Tyrel Lohr" <tyrel@...> wrote:
>
> > It means that it's possible for a Government to be fairly hands-
off
> > (especially if if maintains good productivity), without resorting
to
> > brainwashing the populace (counter-insurgency) ;) ,
>
> I have found that, barring unforeseen circumstances, as long as you
keep
> your Productivity increases in-step with population increases (or
other
> Census importation) you really won't run into too many Morale
problems.
>
> In all of my campaigns, the worst culprits for Morale changes have
been
> enemies taking control of a system (target number 3, -3 Morale
loss) or
> random events. Sure, enemy forces (usually also controlled by me!)
will
> sometimes use Insurgency missions, but that is still fairly rare.
>
> > Presumably if a government has full Productivity before an
advance it
> > will gain an extra +1 morale when Productivity catches up as
well -
> > which means good government is rewarded.
>
> Yes, keeping the population fully-employed will make it easy to get
the free
> +1 Morale bonus the next time you increase Productivity.
>
> > It might be reasonable to add something on the other end (perhaps
a
> > Morale 2 check if an extra census point is gained when census
already
> > = capacity for -1 morale) or something like that to cover
overcrowding,
>
> That is probably a less harsh solution to the Overpopulation rule
from the
> Campaign Moderator's Companion that requires a Morale check each
turn that a
> system is overpopulated (Census > Capacity). With that rule, the
target
> number for the Morale check is equal to Census - Capacity, so
having 1 more
> Census than Capacity would require a Morale [1] check each turn,
lest you
> incur a -1 Morale modifier.
>
> BTW, writing Morale checks like that actually works good, Gareth!
Good idea!
> It makes it much easier to tell what the target number is in a more
natural
> manner than always appending the "with a target number of X" onto
the end.
>
> > By the bye, what restrictions do you normally place on
productivity
> > increases? Do you allow purchasing of productivity on the turn a
> > system is colonised?
>
> I don't allow Productivity increases to be purchased until a colony
is put
> in place, so you can't colonize a system and then instantly earn
income on
> the next turn. However, I do allow a colony to purchase Productivity
> increases in anticipation of the arrival of future Census.
>
> Connecting back with the Morale discussion, purchasing the
Productivity
> increases before the Census arrive also makes sure that on the turn
that the
> Census disembarks the colony should receive a +1 Morale bonus, too,
as there
> is enough Productivity there to be utilized by the new colonists,
fully
> employing them.
>
> -Tyrel
>
I have found this discussion very helpful. Thanks to all.

Grady




Sat May 10, 2008 5:30 am

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In CG 3.8.2, it describes a morale system, but I'm getting confused. The rule states, "If multiple conditions are met for a system, roll each check...
grady18202
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May 2, 2008
9:47 pm

Hello! ... You basically only need to check when something has changed. So if you were at Census 2, and Morale 1, then increase Productivity to 2, the Morale...
Jay Waschak
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May 6, 2008
1:02 pm

Bonus follow-up question about morale, When a population increases (through population growth, moving population around on transports, etc) does morale also...
Gareth Lazelle
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May 6, 2008
4:19 pm

The official answer is yes. However I know many a CM who only let the Morale checks move Morale, which leads to a very interesting and difficult campaign. -Jay...
Jay Waschak
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May 6, 2008
5:02 pm

... Jay, where is the rule that says this? The population increase rule certainly doesn't say this. -Tyrel...
Tyrel Lohr
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May 6, 2008
8:57 pm

I will check the reference when I get back tonight, but I am reasonably certain it does. -Jay...
Jay Waschak
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May 6, 2008
9:03 pm

... CG 3.8.4 Population Increases It is possible for the Census value of a system to increase over time. Every 12 turns (starting with the first turn), each...
Tyrel Lohr
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May 6, 2008
11:42 pm

... Since it is not explicitly said then I would assume no. -Jay...
Jay Waschak
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May 7, 2008
12:15 am

... I was wondering if I missed something somewhere or not. Can you remember any other rule that you might have tucked such a clause into, Jay? I have to admit...
Tyrel Lohr
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May 7, 2008
1:19 am

... I would have assumed the answer to be No for a number of reasons : 1)The answer being Yes renders the potential morale increase from improving productivity...
Umm, yeah, right...
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May 7, 2008
11:33 am

... No, Morale remains the same. CG 3.8.4 Population Increases makes no mention of increasing Morale, and a rule saying to increase Morale when Census ...
Tyrel Lohr
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May 6, 2008
8:56 pm

Not so sure about moving population around, I can see why that wouldn't cause a morale increase, But I could certainly see an argument for population growth...
Gareth Lazelle
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May 7, 2008
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... I don't remember anything in the rules that mentions Morale increasing when you move Census back and forth. In fact, moving Census from a world with ...
Tyrel Lohr
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May 7, 2008
5:20 pm

... Heh, Unless your Government's forcibly relocating citizens, a lot of immigration probably suggests a good economic situation (hence you get a lot of...
Gareth Lazelle
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May 7, 2008
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... An optional rule could be used to handle this eventuality. You could force a Morale check with a target number of 2 whenever a colony's Census increases as...
Tyrel Lohr
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That sounds fairly plausible, It means that it's possible for a Government to be fairly hands-off (especially if if maintains good productivity), without...
Gareth Lazelle
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May 7, 2008
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... I have found that, barring unforeseen circumstances, as long as you keep your Productivity increases in-step with population increases (or other Census...
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... off ... to ... keep ... other ... problems. ... been ... loss) or ... will ... advance it ... well - ... the free ... a ... already ... overcrowding, ... ...
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