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#203 From: jerky1971@...
Date: Thu Apr 1, 2004 7:13 pm
Subject: Re: Favorite Ms. Pac mazes
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I like the one in Ms. Pac that has the two tunnels on each side.
Now I'm thinking that its not in the original game!

--- In Turaco@yahoogroups.com, Scott Lawrence <sdlpci@c...> wrote:
> What do all of you consider to be your favorite Pac/Ms. Pac mazes?
>
> I personally like the "Attack"/"Miss Pac Plus" maps a it more than
the
> original maps.
>
> The "Xen's Revenge" and "Ultra" maps look pretty cool too...
>
> Thoughts?
>
> -s
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>  ld b, #0x05
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#202 From: Scott Lawrence <sdlpci@...>
Date: Mon Mar 22, 2004 5:14 pm
Subject: Favorite Ms. Pac mazes
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What do all of you consider to be your favorite Pac/Ms. Pac mazes?

I personally like the "Attack"/"Miss Pac Plus" maps a it more than the
original maps.

The "Xen's Revenge" and "Ultra" maps look pretty cool too...

Thoughts?

-s

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#201 From: Scott Lawrence <sdlpci@...>
Date: Mon Mar 8, 2004 7:46 pm
Subject: Re: AGE screenshots
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When AGE was created, there were no color proms dumped for the games
yet.

AGE uses its own palettes, as does Turaco.  The palettes for later
versions of AGE and subsequently, Turaco are contained in the .ini
files.  Earlier AGE releases have palette data stored in the source
drivers.

-s

On Monday, March 8, 2004, at 02:34  PM, X-Ample wrote:

> I'm just guessing here but are color rom data missing
> from earlier games like Pac-Man? Is that why the
> colors dont match in Turaco?
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#200 From: X-Ample <x_ample@...>
Date: Mon Mar 8, 2004 7:34 pm
Subject: Re: AGE screenshots
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I'm just guessing here but are color rom data missing
from earlier games like Pac-Man? Is that why the
colors dont match in Turaco?


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#199 From: Scott "Jerry" Lawrence <sdlpci@...>
Date: Sun Feb 22, 2004 9:45 pm
Subject: AGE screenshots
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I know that most of you... well... perhaps all of you... don't care
about this,  but I just uploaded screenshots of AGE to the Turaco
Classic home page

	 http://www.cis.rit.edu/~jerry/Software/turacoCL/classic/


(yes, I finally have a way to run Turaco Classic and AGE... I use
Virtual PC to do it... It works well, although it's a bit sluggish.)


-s


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#198 From: Scott "Jerry" Lawrence <sdlpci@...>
Date: Thu Feb 19, 2004 2:08 pm
Subject: Crazy Otto
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For anyone who might be interested, I'm working on a hack to revert Ms.
Pac back to Crazy Otto.

I'm basing it on the one picture we have of the game from Time
magazine.  Here's the graphics so far:

      http://www.cis.rit.edu/~sdlpci/Image/2004/02/ottoman.gif

I basically have the ghosts done (normal and blue) and I'm working on
the "Otto Man", seen as the player credit at the bottom of the screen.
It's hard to get the proportions right on that one...



I should also note that last night, Mark Spaeth came up with a fix for
the level 141 crash/hang.  It's "HACK9" on the mspac disassembly:

      http://www.cis.rit.edu/~sdlpci/Software/pacman/mspac/mspac.asm


-jsl


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#197 From: Scott "Jerry" Lawrence <sdlpci@...>
Date: Sun Jan 18, 2004 6:18 pm
Subject: Call For Hacks/Pac Maps/etc
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Hey all.

I'm working on a project now with *someone*, and I can't really say the
specifics, but the end result is a multi-pacman/multi-game unit with
lots of pac-maps, various games that run on pac hardware, and the like.

Anyway... If you have maps and/or game hacks for pac/pac hardware,
please point me to your web page or email me information.  Do not send
me roms.

-j


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#196 From: Scott "Jerry" Lawrence <sdlpci@...>
Date: Sun Jan 18, 2004 3:08 pm
Subject: Re: cherry master
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On Saturday, January 17, 2004, at 11:37  PM, redemptiongames wrote:

> Can someone tell me if it is possible to use this program
> to modify the graphics for a cherry master game.
>
> I know the program does'nt support this game but is it possible
> to add support and would anyone be interested in doing this.
>
> any help would greatly be appreciated!

Turaco is (unfortunately) based on the MAME emulator.  MAME does not
support any of the betting-based games ("Cherry Master" is a
redemption/slot machine kind of game, no?).

And on top of that, it is only based on sprite-based games, which is
why games like Williams games (Joust, Robotron, Sinistar, etc) are not
included.

Short answer:  no.  there's no support, and it would not be easy to add
in without documentation of the hardware of the machine, or at least a
set of the roms (which I do not have.)

-s

#195 From: "redemptiongames" <redemptiongames@...>
Date: Sun Jan 18, 2004 4:37 am
Subject: cherry master
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Can someone tell me if it is possible to use this program
to modify the graphics for a cherry master game.

I know the program does'nt support this game but is it possible
to add support and would anyone be interested in doing this.

any help would greatly be appreciated!

Thanks
redemption

#194 From: Scott "Jerry" Lawrence <sdlpci@...>
Date: Mon Jan 5, 2004 7:16 am
Subject: Ms.Pac Hack
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I just did a Horizontal Ms. Pac hack...

It required rotating some of the graphics, and doing some tweaking in
the roms...

	 http://www.cis.rit.edu/~sdlpci/Software/pachacks/

-s

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#193 From: Scott "Jerry" Lawrence <sdlpci@...>
Date: Fri Jan 2, 2004 10:08 pm
Subject: Horizontal Ms. Pac-Man
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For any of you pac hackers out there, I just made a horizontal version
of Ms. Pac-Man:

	 http://www.cis.rit.edu/~jerry/Software/pachacks/

As far as I know, this hasn't been done before. :)

enjoy.

-j

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#192 From: Scott "Jerry" Lawrence <sdlpci@...>
Date: Sun Sep 21, 2003 2:52 pm
Subject: Re: Wondering about the image banks in games like Fantasia
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On Sunday, September 21, 2003, at 08:51  AM, Lorne T wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>   I got it in my little mind that maybe I could try to replace some
> of the image banks in the "Qix-strip" games like Fantasia and
> Fantasy '95 (I'm a little tired of the girls they use there..... ;))
>
> So I was wondering if anyone would have any suggestions on how I
> might export those images to a PCX file or other useful type.  The
> large image files in these types of games aren't accesible in the
> databank ROM viewer provided in MAME.

Chances are that if MAME doesn't have the viewer, You can't easily make
a driver for it for Turaco.

-j

#191 From: "Lorne T" <l__tremblay@...>
Date: Sun Sep 21, 2003 12:51 pm
Subject: Wondering about the image banks in games like Fantasia
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Hi all,

   I got it in my little mind that maybe I could try to replace some
of the image banks in the "Qix-strip" games like Fantasia and
Fantasy '95 (I'm a little tired of the girls they use there..... ;))

So I was wondering if anyone would have any suggestions on how I
might export those images to a PCX file or other useful type.  The
large image files in these types of games aren't accesible in the
databank ROM viewer provided in MAME.

Any suggestions?....... Thanks!

#190 From: "twisty" <tempest_twisty@...>
Date: Thu Sep 11, 2003 2:09 pm
Subject: Re: Java Turaco
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--- In Turaco@yahoogroups.com, Scott "Jerry" Lawrence <sdlpci@c...>
wrote:
> Would any of you all be interested in a version of a graphics
editor,
> something similar to the original Turaco Classic, but written in
Java,
> so that it can be used on all modern computers?
>
> This would replace Turaco Classic and A.G.E. entirely.
>
> Thoughts?

Heya Jerry :-)

Yes, please do. I think this would clearly be the most benefical
route to take at the mo. It'll give the greatest reward for the
time/energy invested imo.

twisty
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#189 From: "basvangaalen" <basvangaalen@...>
Date: Sat Sep 6, 2003 11:11 am
Subject: Porting games... Xevious!
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Hi,

I want to make a port of Xevious to DHTML or Flash and am trying to
get the graphics - for starters (what about the map-data???)

When I use Turaco CL to decode the ROM's I get two PCX-files. Nice,
but when I view them in ACDSee, Paint Shop Pro and/or Photoshop I'm
left with two black (ie: empty) graphics files.

So what's up with this? Did I do something wrong?

Here's what I did and the program output:

-----

F:\EMULAT~1\mame\turacocl>turacocl -ini drivers/xevious.ini -inf ROM
Driver: drivers/xevious.ini
   Name: xevious
   Desc: Xevious (Namco)

== ROMs ==
   xvi_12.3b: .\roms\xvi_12.3b
   xvi_13.3c: .\roms\xvi_13.3c
   xvi_14.3d: .\roms\xvi_14.3d
   xvi_15.4m: .\roms\xvi_15.4m
   xvi_18.4r: .\roms\xvi_18.4r
   xvi_17.4p: .\roms\xvi_17.4p
   xvi_16.4n: .\roms\xvi_16.4n

== Saving images ==
  Bank Graphics: xev_1.pcx
   Checkerboard: xev_1c.pcx

-----

Can someone please help me out with this?

#188 From: "darth_fader2001" <stephen@...>
Date: Mon Aug 18, 2003 7:41 pm
Subject: Re: Windows XP and ROM size error
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--- In Turaco@yahoogroups.com, "Jerry Carpenter" <sdlpci@c...> wrote:
> --- In Turaco@yahoogroups.com, "darth_fader2001" <stephen@j...>
wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am trying to use TuracoCL on Windows XP, and keep being
informed
> > that the ROM size is incorrect:
> >  d05_vt01.bin: .
>
> That should look something like this:
>
> d05_vt01.bin: c:\roms\blah\foo\commandu\d05_vt01.bin
>
> Try specifying the path to your rom files with the -rom
<directory> command line
> option

Tried it and no joy:

C:\turacocl>turacocl -ini drivers\pacman\pacman.ini -inf ROM -rom
c:\mame\roms
Driver: drivers\pacman\pacman.ini
   Name: pacman
   Desc: Pac-Man (Midway)

== ROMs ==
   pacman.5e: c:\mame\roms
File was the wrong size.
Was 1312, expecting 4096.

C:\turacocl>turacocl -ini drivers/pacman/pacman.ini -inf ROM -rom
c:/mame/roms
Driver: drivers/pacman/pacman.ini
   Name: pacman
   Desc: Pac-Man (Midway)

== ROMs ==
   pacman.5e: c:/mame/roms
File was the wrong size.
Was 1312, expecting 4096.

C:\turacocl>turacocl -ini drivers\pacman\pacman.ini -inf ROM -rom
c:\mame\roms
Driver: drivers\pacman\pacman.ini
   Name: pacman
   Desc: Pac-Man (Midway)

== ROMs ==
   pacman.5e: c:\mame\roms
File was the wrong size.
Was 1312, expecting 4096.

C:\turacocl>turacocl -ini drivers\taito\raibowe.ini -inf ROM -rom
c:\mame\roms
Driver: drivers\taito\raibowe.ini
drivers\taito\raibowe.ini: Unable to load driver.

C:\turacocl>turacocl -ini drivers\TAITO\Rainbowe.ini -inf ROM -rom
c:\mame\roms
Driver: drivers\TAITO\Rainbowe.ini
   Name: Rainbowe
   Desc: Rainbow Islands (Extra)

== ROMs ==
  ri_m01.rom: c:\mame\roms
File was the wrong size.
Was 1312, expecting 524288.

C:\turacocl>turacocl -ini drivers\TAITO\RAINBOWE.ini -inf ROM -rom
c:\mame\roms
Driver: drivers\TAITO\RAINBOWE.ini
   Name: RAINBOWE
   Desc: Rainbow Islands (Extra)

== ROMs ==
  ri_m01.rom: c:\mame\roms
File was the wrong size.
Was 1312, expecting 524288.

#187 From: "Jerry Carpenter" <sdlpci@...>
Date: Sun Aug 17, 2003 4:26 pm
Subject: Re: Windows XP and ROM size error
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--- In Turaco@yahoogroups.com, "darth_fader2001" <stephen@j...> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to use TuracoCL on Windows XP, and keep being informed
> that the ROM size is incorrect:
>  d05_vt01.bin: .

That should look something like this:

d05_vt01.bin: c:\roms\blah\foo\commandu\d05_vt01.bin

Try specifying the path to your rom files with the -rom <directory> command line
option

#186 From: "darth_fader2001" <stephen@...>
Date: Sat Aug 16, 2003 12:15 am
Subject: Windows XP and ROM size error
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Hello,

I am trying to use TuracoCL on Windows XP, and keep being informed
that the ROM size is incorrect:

C:\Turaco>turacocl -ini drivers/capcom/commandu.ini -inf ROM
Driver: drivers/capcom/commandu.ini
   Name: commandu
   Desc: Commando (US)

== ROMs ==
  d05_vt01.bin: .
File was the wrong size.
Was 256, expecting 16384.

Any ideas?  I read in Bugs.txt that this was an EMM error but was
fixed?

Thanks

Dart

#185 From: Scott "Jerry" Lawrence <sdlpci@...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:39 pm
Subject: Java Turaco
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Would any of you all be interested in a version of a graphics editor,
something similar to the original Turaco Classic, but written in Java,
so that it can be used on all modern computers?

This would replace Turaco Classic and A.G.E. entirely.

Thoughts?

-j

I will still (eventually) continue for a 1.0 release of Turaco CL:
      - Known bugs to be fixed (windows?)
      - Nintendo VS support

but I've got a full plate right now from other projects...

#184 From: "dnpblaze" <dnpblaze@...>
Date: Sat Aug 9, 2003 9:14 pm
Subject: Magical Drop II/III Gfx Third Bank
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Hi.. I've worked out how to load Magical Drop II and III in turaco,
and the first two banks work fine, but the third banks for both games
just have two lines of "garbage" images, and I can't scroll down
below. to the right of that it says "???" for the address.
Is this an error on my part or does turaco not have the ability to
show the third banks for these two games?

#181 From: "mikerock2000" <mikerock2000@...>
Date: Mon Jul 14, 2003 4:56 am
Subject: Frogger high score initials save
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Is there a hack for the mame rom frogger that allows you to put your
initials in frogger, just like the seinfeld episode.

#180 From: Jerronimo <sdlpci@...>
Date: Mon Jun 23, 2003 2:48 pm
Subject: Re: Help writing drivers...
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On Sunday, June 22, 2003, at 08:07  PM, vsgxtc wrote:

> I been having lots of fun hacking graphics and burning eproms for a
> friend w/ a mspac machine - now I want to play w/ my nintendo vs
> machine...
>
> However, I haven't a clue how to write a driver for the vs roms.
>
> Any suggestions for a place to look for a tutorial and/or how to go
> about writing a new driver would be greatly appreciated.

I don't believe anyone has written a tutorial of any kind.  The most
documentation you'll find is in the "inidriv.txt" file which fully
documents the pac-man driver.  That's about the most that anyone has
done.

Anyhoo, I just looked at the Vs. driver for MAME. (src/drivers/vsnes.c)
and it seems that (at least in mame 0.65) that the decoding happens
within the "PPU", which is different than standard 'sprite' hardware.
it seems as if the decoding is actually done in src/vidhrdw/ppu2c03b.c,
I think.

Thanks to the MAME team, once again going against their prime
directive, the decode routine isn't explained.  (One of their prime
directives is "preserve

This leads me to think that this decoding might require special
routines in Turaco CL in order to accomplish this.

I will look into it further.  I might not have time to do so before
next monday though.

For testing purposes, can you send me a romset?  (send it to me
personally, NOT to the yahoo group, thanks!)
ie: "Vs. The Goonies", "Vs. Gradius", "Vs. Slalom", "Vs. Tetris", "Vs.
BaseBall" or whichever game you're using.

-j

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#179 From: "vsgxtc" <forshan@...>
Date: Mon Jun 23, 2003 12:07 am
Subject: Help writing drivers...
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I been having lots of fun hacking graphics and burning eproms for a
friend w/ a mspac machine - now I want to play w/ my nintendo vs
machine...

However, I haven't a clue how to write a driver for the vs roms.

Any suggestions for a place to look for a tutorial and/or how to go
about writing a new driver would be greatly appreciated.

#178 From: "lesx99y" <lesx99@...>
Date: Mon Jun 16, 2003 12:32 pm
Subject: Re: Bug?: Crash when extracting bank 3 of neogeo roms
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I'm using the drivers from your webpage
(http://www.cis.rit.edu/~jerry/Software/turacoCL).

Under the link for the Turaco Classic Drivers 1.1 1999-02-06.

I had to take a guess at the actual file and rename it as it was no
longer called n138001a.378. As there were only 2 files of length
131,072 and since both the pulstar and blazstar inis used the 's' rom
file, I assumed it would be the 049-s1.bin.

I'm running WinXP sp1... I'll email you the files separately.

Ps.
As a side note, even when using the -ini switch, I still need to set
the TDRIVERS env variable, which is a bit annoying.


--- In Turaco@yahoogroups.com, Jerronimo <sdlpci@c...> wrote:
> First of all, make sure you're using the original Turaco Classic
> drivers, not the prematurely released Turaco CL drivers that used to be
> available on my site.
>
> Secondly, If this is with the old drivers, can you send me the roms and
> ini driver you're using along which exactly which version of Windows
> you're running (I assume it's windows from the D:\ prompt)
>
> (don't send the rom files or ini driver to the group, only send it to
> me directly. :)
>
> -jerry
>
> On Sunday, June 15, 2003, at 12:05  AM, lesx99y wrote:
>
> > When extracting bank 3 of neogeo roms (eg. pulstar/blazstar/androdun)
> > with the latest version 0.8, TuracoCL takes a really long time working
> > and then just stops. No output files are created.
> >
> > Also bank 1 is always a blank pcx. Is this correct?
> > I tried pacman and mspacman and they work fine.
> >
> > D:\Temp>TURACOCL.EXE -ini D:\DRIVERS\NEO_GEO\ANDRODUN.INI -inf ROM
> > -bnk 3
> > Driver: D:\DRIVERS\NEO_GEO\ANDRODUN.INI
> >   Name: ANDRODUN
> >   Desc: Andro Dunos
> >
> > == ROMs ==
> >  n138001a.378: .\androdun\n138001a.378
> >  ng-sfix.rom: .\neogeo\ng-sfix.rom
> >
> > D:\Temp>
> >
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#177 From: Jerronimo <sdlpci@...>
Date: Mon Jun 16, 2003 1:21 am
Subject: Re: Turaco CL: Color Pallete Question
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On Sunday, June 15, 2003, at 08:46  PM, X_Ample wrote:

> According to the Readme.txt file.
>
>  turacocl -ini drivers/bunny/bunnyb.ini -inf ROM
>
>     This should create three files:
>  bun_1.pcx  "bunnyb" bank number 1 as a PCX image.
>  bun_1c.pcx A "checkerboard" file. (explained below)
>  bun_p1.pcx The palette key for palette 1.
>
>
> I tried this with Galaga and I only get the _1.pcx / _1c.pcx
>
> How do I get the _p1.pcx file?  I would like to use the proper colors
> and not guess my own using photoshop 7 palette options.

You don't need the palette file if you're exporting .pcx files.  it's
just a reference file so that turaco can re-import the bank image
properly, but that's only necessary when you're using .ppm image files.

That's just an artifact from the old version of the program.  :)

-j

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#176 From: "X_Ample" <x_ample@...>
Date: Mon Jun 16, 2003 12:46 am
Subject: Turaco CL: Color Pallete Question
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According to the Readme.txt file.

	 turacocl -ini drivers/bunny/bunnyb.ini -inf ROM

     This should create three files:
	 bun_1.pcx  "bunnyb" bank number 1 as a PCX image.
	 bun_1c.pcx A "checkerboard" file. (explained below)
	 bun_p1.pcx The palette key for palette 1.


I tried this with Galaga and I only get the _1.pcx / _1c.pcx

How do I get the _p1.pcx file?  I would like to use the proper colors
and not guess my own using photoshop 7 palette options.

#175 From: Jerronimo <sdlpci@...>
Date: Sun Jun 15, 2003 4:13 pm
Subject: Re: Bug?: Crash when extracting bank 3 of neogeo roms
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First of all, make sure you're using the original Turaco Classic
drivers, not the prematurely released Turaco CL drivers that used to be
available on my site.

Secondly, If this is with the old drivers, can you send me the roms and
ini driver you're using along which exactly which version of Windows
you're running (I assume it's windows from the D:\ prompt)

(don't send the rom files or ini driver to the group, only send it to
me directly. :)

-jerry

On Sunday, June 15, 2003, at 12:05  AM, lesx99y wrote:

> When extracting bank 3 of neogeo roms (eg. pulstar/blazstar/androdun)
> with the latest version 0.8, TuracoCL takes a really long time working
> and then just stops. No output files are created.
>
> Also bank 1 is always a blank pcx. Is this correct?
> I tried pacman and mspacman and they work fine.
>
> D:\Temp>TURACOCL.EXE -ini D:\DRIVERS\NEO_GEO\ANDRODUN.INI -inf ROM
> -bnk 3
> Driver: D:\DRIVERS\NEO_GEO\ANDRODUN.INI
>   Name: ANDRODUN
>   Desc: Andro Dunos
>
> == ROMs ==
>  n138001a.378: .\androdun\n138001a.378
>  ng-sfix.rom: .\neogeo\ng-sfix.rom
>
> D:\Temp>
>
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#174 From: "lesx99y" <lesx99@...>
Date: Sun Jun 15, 2003 4:05 am
Subject: Bug?: Crash when extracting bank 3 of neogeo roms
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When extracting bank 3 of neogeo roms (eg. pulstar/blazstar/androdun)
with the latest version 0.8, TuracoCL takes a really long time working
and then just stops. No output files are created.

Also bank 1 is always a blank pcx. Is this correct?
I tried pacman and mspacman and they work fine.

D:\Temp>TURACOCL.EXE -ini D:\DRIVERS\NEO_GEO\ANDRODUN.INI -inf ROM -bnk 3
Driver: D:\DRIVERS\NEO_GEO\ANDRODUN.INI
   Name: ANDRODUN
   Desc: Andro Dunos

== ROMs ==
  n138001a.378: .\androdun\n138001a.378
  ng-sfix.rom: .\neogeo\ng-sfix.rom

D:\Temp>

#173 From: "nicolasflammel" <nicolasflammel@...>
Date: Fri Jun 6, 2003 7:43 pm
Subject: Re: Quick question for you all...
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--- In Turaco@yahoogroups.com, Jerronimo <sdlpci@c...> wrote:
> If you each could respond to this, that would be great;
>
> Where did you originally hear about AGE/Turaco Classic/Turaco CL
from?
>
> just curious...

If I were to make a guess, I'd say from Jerky's page for Turaco.  I
don't think I've ever used AGE, and I know I've never used the new
Turaco CL.

Dave

#172 From: "Jerky1971" <jerky1971@...>
Date: Fri Jun 6, 2003 12:44 am
Subject: Re: Quick question for you all...
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Damn, it was like 5 years ago for me!

I think that I found AGE while looking for hacks.  And I came across
your Pac hack pages.

I know that I used AGE for my early hacks.


--- In Turaco@yahoogroups.com, Jerronimo <sdlpci@c...> wrote:
> If you each could respond to this, that would be great;
>
> Where did you originally hear about AGE/Turaco Classic/Turaco CL
from?
>
> just curious...
>
> -j
>
>
> --
> "Just imagine what Saddam could do if he did what we're imagining
he'll
> do. It's almost unimaginable."
> Jerry Carpenter
> http://www.umlautllama.com

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