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12751
I've got the Horsemen working over the submitted plot points, to work out a timeline. (Gentlemen Advocates, if you havn't submitted three plot points, please...
Ken Burnside
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Aug 6, 2007
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12752
Hmmmm, Sounds like a time for some of Olympia's fleet to leave service and set up a Private Security Company.... I know I am not one of the Horsemen but it is...
Jon Stout
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Aug 6, 2007
10:55 am
12753
Cl. Real Bad Idea. The would be Privateers would get called Pirates at once. The loyal part of Olympia's Space Arm would get serviced and repaired post haste...
Chevalieraberrant
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Aug 6, 2007
11:42 am
12754
Yeah, But one man's pirate or privateer is another man's Mercenary is another man's security specialist.  Look at the Hammer's Slammers novel by David Drake -...
kintail@...
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Aug 6, 2007
12:50 pm
12755
Given the history of the setting, including the Garibaldi Incident, warships not under the control of a soveriegn nation is open season for every other warship...
Mark Graves
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Aug 6, 2007
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12756
Decomissioning ships will also work... It also allows them the face saving gesture of stripping useful components off, putting the hulls into mothballs, not...
Mark Graves
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Aug 6, 2007
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12757
Cl: Please note that I'm referring to space navy units not ground. Ground military units going provate is quite possible, and indeed exists: one of the...
Chevalieraberrant
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Aug 6, 2007
1:09 pm
12758
... Well, in principle a private security company could in fact be exactly that. Still, I'm pretty sure current treaties forbid armed non-government ships, at...
Anthony Jackson
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Aug 6, 2007
4:23 pm
12759
... It's not just Olympia's bond rating that's stressed, and it's probably not just Altiplano that's concerned (isn't Damso a significant banker?). Concord...
Anthony Jackson
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Aug 6, 2007
5:51 pm
12760
... is teetering on the brink due to the costs of their ... large fleet and the Saladin War. Altiplano is holding a lot ... of Olympian debt, and is very very...
kintail@...
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Aug 6, 2007
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12761
... Um..no, actually, they wouldn't. It's not a parallel example at all, because there's no easy way to do naval forces on the cheap....
Anthony Jackson
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Aug 6, 2007
8:18 pm
12762
... but this is the type of environment that would usher ... rise of private security companies. Look at the Angola and ... Sierra Leone in 1994 - 1997. Such...
kintail@...
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Aug 6, 2007
8:41 pm
12763
... There are several reasons for using mercenaries, but the primary ones are: a) avoiding the political consequences of formal intervention. b) avoiding the...
Anthony Jackson
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Aug 6, 2007
10:00 pm
12764
... Executive Outcomes owned a couple helicopters. There is a big jump from that to the equivalent of a dozen destryoyers. -Kle....
Klebert L. Hall
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Aug 6, 2007
10:20 pm
12765
In a message dated 8/6/2007 6:21:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, crocuta@... writes: You are basing the idea as if they are pirates/privateers ... ...
LevyBenathome@...
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Aug 6, 2007
11:04 pm
12766
You are very correct Ben just like everyone else has been provided the ship truly is rogue that has decided to become a freebooter. It is a different thing if...
Jon Stout
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Aug 7, 2007
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12767
... Except that under current treaties in the 10W, it's impossible for a private warship to be legitimate (the status of gunboats is unclear; a PMC may be able...
Anthony Jackson
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Aug 7, 2007
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12768
Yep and look at Executive Outcomes and their legal status according to international law in 1994-1997. The company had to close up shop in 1998 due to changes...
Jon Stout
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Aug 7, 2007
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12769
... Something you are overlooking is that in the case of Angola and Executive Outcomes, there was a wealthy outside world from which to generate the resources...
Klebert L. Hall
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Aug 7, 2007
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12770
This gets hashed to death about once a year. Indeed, this is one of the places where Richard screams that we're locking the universe down too tightly. When...
Ken Burnside
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Aug 7, 2007
11:27 am
12771
G'day, ... Most valuable thing I have ever touched was a vile of chemicals distilled from coralline tissue, the pencil battery sized vile was worth over 15...
beth.fulton@...
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Aug 7, 2007
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12772
Also, depending on the supply, demand makes thing valuable.  If there is a single producer of petroleum (plastics, etc) and that producer needs reliable...
kintail@...
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Aug 7, 2007
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12773
In the case of the Condoteirre, was that not because of a code of honour? It was understood that once you were placed at a disadvantage, you conceded the...
Brightman, Tristan
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Aug 7, 2007
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12774
Gentlemen, I'm currently at Ft McClellan, in a converted WWII theater, on a temporary network. This means if you don't get anything back from me for a couple...
Mark Graves
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Aug 7, 2007
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12775
Cl: Also add to this that any First Tier Nation Navy would likely shoot first and talk later as soon as it saw a spacegoing PMC, and you've got the basis of an...
Chevalieraberrant
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Aug 7, 2007
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12776
Cl: Aye. Why do you think XC is exploring its outback, and bankrupting itself to keep its hold on Schwarzvaal? ... From: <beth.fulton@...> To:...
Chevalieraberrant
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Aug 7, 2007
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12777
Oops forgot the obligatory Shai Dorsai! or Massada Forever!...
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Aug 7, 2007
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12778
Especially if the PMC beat them. :)...
kintail@...
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Aug 7, 2007
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12779
Cl: Yes, but. See below. ... From: <kintail@...> To: <Ten_Worlds_Development@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 3:14 PM Subject: RE:...
Chevalieraberrant
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Aug 7, 2007
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12780
... Sure, but during an interstellar economic crisis, where are the people to buy such a thing going to be? To own and operate an interstellar mercenary ...
Klebert L. Hall
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