Rules For Deck Postings!!!!
1. PLEASE Tell the Theme/Name of Your Deck!!!!
2. No Less Than 40 Cards (Oviously!!!!)
3. POST YOUR DECK IN THE FILES SECTION (UNDER "DECK GARAGE")!!!!

More Rules May Be Added! If You Think Of Any I Haven't Said Please
Tell Me at Supreme_Duelists-owner@yahoogroups.com!!!!

Breaking Of These Rules In Any Way Will Result In Banning! (EXCEPTIONS MAY BE
MADE).

JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER OF WHAT THE RESTRICTIONS ARE:

Effective February 2nd, 2004, this is the list of Forbidden and Limited Cards
from Konami.

UPDATED FOR DARK CRISIS!

Japanese, Asian-English and Counterfeit cards are not legal for use in Official
Tournaments. The English print God cards are also not legal tournament play.


I. Forbidden Cards

There are currently no cards on the Forbidden List.


II. Limited Cards

You can ONLY use one of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:

NEW: "Butterfly Dagger - Elma", "Magical Scientist", "Reflect Bounder", and
"Vampire Lord" are now Limited Cards. "Morphing Jar" is now Semi-Limited instead
of Limited.

Breaker the Magical Warrior
Butterfly Dagger - Elma
Call of the Haunted
Card Destruction
Ceasefire
Change of Heart
Confiscation
Cyber Jar
Dark Hole
Delinquent Duo
Exiled Force
Exodia the Forbidden One
Fiber Jar
Graceful Charity
Harpie’s Feather Duster
Heavy Storm
Imperial Order
Injection Fairy Lily
Jinzo
Left Leg of the Forbidden One
Left Arm of the Forbidden One
Mage Power
Magic Cylinder
Magical Scientist
Mirage of Nightmare
Mirror Force
Monster Reborn
Painful Choice
Pot of Greed
Premature Burial
Raigeki
Reckless Greed
Reflect Bounder
Right Arm of the Forbidden One
Right Leg of the Forbidden One
Ring of Destruction
Sangan
Sinister Serpent
Snatch Steal
Swords of Revealing Light
The Forceful Sentry
Tribe-Infecting Virus
Twin-Headed Behemoth
United We Stand
Upstart Goblin
Vampire Lord
Witch of the Black Forest
Yata-Garasu

NEW: "Butterfly Dagger - Elma", "Magical Scientist", "Reflect Bounder", and
"Vampire Lord" are now Limited Cards. "Morphing Jar" is now Semi-Limited instead
of Limited.


III. Semi-Limited Cards

You can ONLY use two of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:

Creature Swap
Last Turn
Marauding Captain
Morphing Jar
Morphing Jar #2
Nobleman of Crossout
Reinforcement of the Army


NOTE: "Backup Soldier" & "Limiter Removal" are no longer limited

Here's some cool info. i found about the GOD CARDS on pojo.com:

Ya know the 3 verses you must chant to use RA's effects, WELL here
are the verses that you must chant. You probably won't find this in
many other places, so enjoy:

"Great beast of the sky
Please hear my cry
Transform thy self from orb of light
And bring me victory in this fight

Envelop the desert with your glow
And cast your rage upon my foe
Unlock your powers from deep within
So that together, we may win

Appear in this Shadow Game
As I call your name,
Winged Dragon of Ra! "

P.S. These beasts supposedly represent the polarity of the universe:

Obelisk represents Light and Darkness.

Osiris represents Good and Evil.

Ra represents Earth and Sky.

I found this info. at:
pojo.com/yu-gi-oh/FeaturedWriters/Experiment_JON/2003/112403.shtml

It basically covers reasons that people do/don't like 'em....

Hello everyone!  This will be sent every month to the group, that way no one has
any excuse about NOT being sure what Lord of D. DOES/DOESN'T Protect Dragons
from, so here's a list for ya:

NOTE: THIS LIST INCLUDE "DARK CRISIS" CARDS (Go to links section 4 spoiler)

LORD OF D.

Protects Dragons From:

ALL EQUIPS (i'm not naming every one)
Alter for Tribute
Amazoness Spellcaster
A Wingbeat of Giant Dragon
Bark of Dark Ruler
Barrel Dragon
Bite Shoes
Block Attack
Book of Moon
Castle Walls
Change of Heart
Crass Clown
Dark Cat with White Tail
Dark Core
Dark Jeroid
Dark Master – Zorc (If roll is 3,4, or 5)
Darkness Approaches
Dark Scorpion – Chick the Yellow
Dark Spirit of the Silent
Deal of Phantom
De-Fusion (DOESN'T WORK on dragon/fusion type monsters)
Different Dimension Gate
Dimensionhole
Dragon Manipulator
Dream Clown
Enchanted Javelin
Exiled Force
Gravekeeper’s Guard
Guardian Ceal
Hane-Hane
Interdimensional Matter Transporter
Invader of the Throne
Invitation to a Dark Sleep
Jowls of Dark Demise
Judgment of Anubis
Kaiser Glider
Kryuel
Kuribo
Magical Hats
Magical Marionette
Man-Eater Bug
Mask of the Accursed
Mask of Brutality
Mask of Weakness
Magic Cylinder
Michizure
Monster Recovery
Mysterious Guard
Newdoria
Nightmare Wheel
Offerings to the Doomed
Old Vindictive Magician
Otohime
Physical Double
Polymerization
Raigeki Break
Reinforcements
Relinquished
Ring of Destruction
Roulette Barrel
Ryu-Kishin Clown
Sakuretsu Armor
Skull Lair
Soul Exchange
Snake Fang
Snatch Steal
Spellbinding Circle
Spirit's Invitation
Staunch Defender
Stop Defense
Swarm of Scarabs
Thousand-Eyes Restrict (can't absorb)
Tribute to The Doomed
Tsukuyomi
Two-Pronged Attack
XYZ-Dragon Cannon

Doesn't Protect Dragon's From:

ALL FIELD MAGIC CARDS
4-Starred Labybug of Doom
After Genocide
Adhesion Trap Hole
Amazoness Archers
Array of Revealing Light
Banner of Courage
Bladefly
Blast Held By A Tribute
Blind Destruction
Bottomless Shifting Sand
Bottomless Trap Hole
Bubble Crush
Cat’s Ear Tribe
Chain Destruction
Continuous Destruction Punch
Creature Swap
Curse of Aging
Curse of Fiend
Cyber Jar
Dark Coffin
The Dark Door
Dark Dust Spirit
Dark Hole
Dark Master – Zorc (If roll is 1or 2)
D. D. Warrior Lady
DNA Surgery
Dragon Capture Jar
Earthshaker
Electric Lizard
Eternal Rest
Fairy Box
Fiber Jar
Final Attack Orders
Final Destiny
Fissure
Giant Axe Mummy
Gravity Bind
Guardian Sphinx
Horn of Heaven
Hoshiningen
Huge Revolution
Insect Soldiers of the Sky
Jigen Bakudan
Jowgen the Spiritualist
Kazejin
Kiseitai
Legendary Flame Lord
Little Chimera
Major Riot
Mega Ton Magical Cannon
Messenger of Peace
Milus Radiant
Mirror Force
Mirror Wall
Morphing Jar #2
Mystical Knight of Jackal
Needle Ceiling
Needle Wall
Non-Spellcasting Area
Ordeal of a Traveler
Parasite Paracide
Pineapple Blast
Pyramid Energy
Raigeki
Really Eternal Rest
Reflect Bounder
Reverse Trap
Rivalry of Warlords
Rush Recklessly
Sanga of the Thunder
Share the Pain
Shield & Sword
Skill Drain
Solemn Judgment
Star Boy
Suijin
Swords of Revealing Light
The Regulation of Tribe
The Reliable Guardian
Thousand-Eyes Restrict (attack prevention)
Thousand Needles
Time Wizard
Torrential Tribute
Trap Hole
Tribe-Infecting Virus
Vengeful Bog Spirit
Wall of Illusion
Witch's Apprentice
Yomi Ship

The Cards Recently Added to this list are:

TARGETING:

Alter for Tribute
Dark Master – Zorc ( If roll is 3,4, or 5)
Dark Scorpion – Chick the Yellow
Different Dimension Gate
Guardian Ceal
Interdimensional Matter Transporter
Judgment of Anubis
Kaiser Glider
Sakuretsu Armor
Staunch Defender
Tsukuyomi

NON-TARGETING:

Blast Held By A Tribute
Dark Master – Zorc (If roll is 1or 2)
D. D. Warrior Lady
Final Attack Orders
Legendary Flame Lord
Non-Spellcasting Area
Really Eternal Rest
Reflect Bounder
Skill Drain
Thousand Needles

IF YOU WANNA MAKE UP YOUR OWN "FAKE CARD", GO TO THE "DATABASE" SECTION & CLICK
ON "Create A Fake Card!!!!" & MAKE YOUR OWN (OR LOOK AT OTHER PEOPLE'S CARDS...)

DECK TESTING

Sure, you could be some sort of deck-building genius. You could make
decks that work the first time, every single time. But if you're like
the rest of us, you need to test the deck. Test it thoroughly. Test
it A LOT. When testing your deck, ask yourself these questions:

How fast am I getting to the cards that I need?
What cards types are giving me trouble?
What specific cards are giving me trouble?
What cards in my deck are useless in most situations?
What cards do I need more of?

These big questions will unlock the key to becoming a better deck.
These questions are there for you to add/remove cards to suit the
situations

Rules For Deck Postings!!!!
1. PLEASE Tell the Theme/Name of Your Deck!!!!
2. No Less Than 40 Cards (Oviously!!!!)
3. POST YOUR DECK IN THE FILES SECTION (UNDER "DECK GARAGE")!!!!

More Rules May Be Added! If You Think Of Any I Haven't Said Please
Tell Me at Supreme_Duelists-owner@yahoogroups.com!!!!

Breaking Of These Rules In Any Way Will Result In Banning! (EXCEPTIONS MAY BE
MADE).

Hello everyone! This will be sent "EVERY MONTH" to the group, that way no one
has any excuse about not seeing the rules.

If you have any problems here are the active Moderators in which you will want
to contact:
1. demonicdragon2003
2. ddm_duke_devlin
3. doghouse2266
4. exodia01985 (ME, The Owner)
5. LaurieBil
6. undertaker_joe
7. yugiohchic2003

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Supreme_Duelists/members?group=mod
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HERE ARE THE RULES:

1. I have A "3 STRIKES & YOUR OUT" RULE. (3 WARNINGS, THEN YOUR BANNED!!!!!!)
(BANNED- "TO NO LONGER HAVE ACCESS TO GROUP FEATURES, OR LOOSE PRIVILAGES")

2. No uploading HENTAI Pictures (Cartoon Porn). ALL PHOTO'S MUST BE "G" OR "PG"
RATED ("SEXY" PICS ARE FINE AS LONG AS NO "UNAPPROPRIATE" PARTS ARE SHOWN).

3. No "FOWL Language" in the messages you post (Damn, Darn, & Hell are OKAY!!!!)
ANY OTHER CURSES WILL EACH RESULT IN 1 STRIKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4. DO NOT SEND ANY "1 WORD/SENTENCE" POSTS. THIS FILLS EVERYONES INBOX.

5. Just a Reminder: ALL POSTS "REQUIRE" APPROVAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

6.If you learn something new, please share it with us!!!! We want to get better
just like you! Without sharing no one will learn how to strengthen their
game!!!!

7. BE NICE! Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean you need to
tear them a new one. Being rude just makes it hard on everyone.

If I catch any of you doing this, you will get one warning.
When you have 3 warning, you are banned. If any of you think
that there shall be more rules, e-mail me at exodia01985@... and
send me the rules you think should be rules. If I approve, they
become rules. Cya!
========================================================
If someone contacts you personally from the group, and causes any trouble with
you: it is your responsibility as an active group member to notify one of the
group moderators PERSONALLY (Do not email the entire group with your problem).
The person harassing you will be BANNED from the group. Once this person is
banned it is no longer my responsibility as i did all i could to punish the
person for their actions.

This will be updated periodically!!!!

If you want to look up the rulings for a certain card go to the "Files" section
of the group & click on 1 of these:

Main File 2.0.pdf
Supplemental_File_2.01.pdf
Supplemental_File_2.02.pdf

Holo-Pulling with a Pocket Scale:
1. Go to eBay and buy a pocket scale. (I use the MX-200)

2. Go to stores and ask if they allow you to weigh packs. If not, leave
promptly, and if they are rude about it, get your friends to boycott the store.
(The boycotting does not apply to card shops, they either want it to be
completely random for other customers or weigh the packs themselves and don't
want anyone to know.)

Toy stores (Kay-Bee Toys, FuncoLand, GameStop, Electronics Botique) and
convenience stores (Uni-Mart, CoGo's, 7-11, Eckerd) work best. Convenience
stores work especially well because the majority of the employees will not give
a F**k what you do as long as you don't break/steal anything.

Note that blister packs (these are the ones encased in cardboard that will most
likely be hanging on walls) are unwieldy (vary too much) in their weights for
the gram scale to be accurate. Thus, Toys R Us, Target, Wal-Mart, etc. are
ineligible as all their packs are blisters.

3. Weigh each pack out of the set you desire to purchase from. Do not mix sets
-- they weigh differently from each other. If you wish to purchase from multiple
sets, weigh each set seperately. (e.g. do all your Pharanoic Guardian weighing,
then your Legacy of Darkness weights, and so on.)

Note: Once you remove a pack from the scale, it may still say it has 0.1 grams
or -0.1 grams on it. If that doesn't go away after a second or two, put the pack
back on, then take it back off. Do this repeatedly until it says 0.0. Either
that, or turn the scale off and back on. Using the “TARE” function can mess you
up a bit, if EVER so slightly (although it hasn’t hurt me when I did it, it was
still a risk.)

4. Sort the packs into piles based on their weight, in 0.1 gram increments. (For
example, all of your packs that weigh 13.3 grams in one pile, your 13.4 gram
packs in another, then your 13.5, and so on.)

5. Compare the packs and set aside all packs from the TOP TWO TENTHS OF A GRAM.
(For example, if there are packs that weigh 13.3, 13.4, 13.5, 13.6, and 13.7
grams respectively -- note that these are the correct weights for a run of 1st
edition Pharanoic Guardian packs -- set aside the 13.6 and 13.7 gram packs.)

6. DOUBLE-CHECK THE PACKS YOU SET ASIDE. The way you put the pack on the scale,
its position on the scale, etc. could affect the packs by a tenth of a gram or
so. Nothing would be more aggravating than buying a 13.6 gram pack that's
actually a 13.5 gram pack and getting a Normal Rare.

7. Buy all the packs that are still in the top .2 grams. Remember to THANK THE
CASHIER or person who let you weigh the packs. If you're polite about it, and
don't take up too much time/counter space, you'll be more likely to be repeat
the process the next time you go into the store.

8. All packs shall contain Super Rares or higher.

Some extra notes or exceptions:



On Erroneous Packs:

Sometimes a pack will weigh 1.0 or 1.1 grams more than normal. (A 14.6 gram pack
where 13.6 constitutes holographic, for example.) These packs have 10 cards.
I've seen them contain 1 rare and 9 commons...I've seen them contain 2 rares and
8 commons...I've literally watched a guy open a pack and pull TWO RING OF
DESTRUCTIONS out of it. Most often it is 2 rares.

This part is a gamble. The entire point of the scale is to eliminate the factor
of the Normal Rare. (Those of us who have scales are above that) If a pack
weighs 1 gram more, typically you don't want to buy it. (Unless it's like 1.2 or
1.3 grams higher, then it's typically a double or triple holo or something and
thus worth the risk)

On @$$holes:



You may be able to circumvent a place's no-weighing policy by either talking to
or avoiding specific people. For example, the manager of a store may not let you
do it, but typically won't go out of their way to tell the other employees about
it. Just avoid the manager and you'll be fine.

Likewise, if a specific employee knows about the scale tactic they won't let you
do it, just avoid them, or go to the manager and Solemn Judgement that
employee's ass. (I've done this, it's funny as heck)

On Defending your Position and Actions:

Your biggest defense is the most common buyer. Typically at toy stores, little
kids will buy packs more often than experienced players. This is even more true
at convenience stores, where the kid will bug their mom/dad to buy them a pack
on the way out.

These players are usually ripped out of their cards in bad trades -- trading
them a bunch of rares or a super rare for their Ring/Yata/IFL/etc. If someone
had to choose between them getting the cards and losing them in bad trades, or
them never getting the cards in the first place, them never getting the cards is
the lesser of the two evils, by far. (This is why card shops are usually avoided
-- experienced players are the most common buyer there, and you would prevent
someone else who pours money into packs from getting good cards, which may lead
them to take their business elsewhere.)

On Weight Differences:



Pack weights differ between runs. 1st edition LoD differs from Unlimited LoD by
.1 grams. Most 1st editions vary from their Unlimited counterparts. Make sure
not to mix the two or you may error and buy a non-holo.

Pack weights differ between sets. From my personal experiences, PGD weighs
between 13.3 and 13.7 grams...LoD weighs 13.2 to 13.6...LoN about the same as
LoD...but PSV is radically different, ranging from 13.8 to 14.2.

On Non-Weighable Prizes:



Sometimes you may win packs at a tournament -- but since that tournament is held
within a card shop, you won't be able to weigh the packs before you pick them --
or worse -- they may just HAND you your prize and give you no say.

Here's what to do: Take the packs you just won. Weigh them. (They're your
possession now, you can do with them what you wish.) Keep the packs that contain
holos. Go to a place that allows pack weighing, and while weighing packs out of
the particular set your prize was in, do the switcheroo on the packs. (Take the
non-holo packs you won and switch them with holo packs from the store while
buying other packs.) As long as you have X packs of your own when you come in,
and X packs of your own when you leave, the store typically will either not
care, or be none the wiser. Just because your tournament organizer's a d*ckwad
and won't let you weigh the packs doesn't mean you are stuck with bad packs.
(Unless you've been winning TPs, in which case you weigh them, open the
heaviest, and eBay the rest for $15 each.)

Best example:

You win 5 PGD packs at a tournament.  1 has a holo, judging by your scale.  Take
the other 4 to a place that sells PGD.  When starting to weigh the packs,
assuming you're being watched, show them that you brought 4 packs into the
store.  While weighing, casually, shuffle the 4 packs that you know do not
contain holos into the rest of the box.  Weigh out 5, 6, or 7 holo packs, set 4
aside where you had yours originally, then buy the rest.  That way you're still
making a sale (so it won't look as bad), and you get rid of the nasty non-holos.

On 24 vs. 36 count boxes:

Try to make friends with the owner of AT LEAST ONE card shop that gets in
24-pack boxes.  Being able to weigh your way to a Jinzo, Gemini Elf, Yata, or
Ring of Destruction is a very valuable thing. (Those cards ONLY come in 24-count
boxes barring a printing error, so unless you like being stuck with Lava Golem,
Lily, Magic Cylinder, or Imperial Order (actually IO isn’t bad but Jinzo’s
better), then try to get to a 24-pack location.)

Advice from an anonymous pack-weigher:



Don't snack. What I'm saying is don't buy 2 or 3 foils from 4 different
partially filled boxes. If you can find a full box, strip it clean. You'll get 4
SR, 2 UR and maybe a SEC. I've skimmed many a partial box and come away with 12
SR, and crappy ones at that! Which leads me to my next point...

Be choosy about what sets you buy. Pick a set with good SUPERS in it. Get a set
with SR that you need, or that are good trade-bait. In general, I avoid MRL like
the plague. What do I want with ANY toon, toon world, MoP,BotL,Invader or any of
that other junk in the set just to try to pull an AoD? I find LOD or LON a MUCH
better choice. I'm also avoiding PGD because I can't unload ANYTHING but RoD/Don
from this set and the chances of pulling them are small. The only reason I get
any LOB packs at all is because 1 Exodia piece pays for the whole box pull (more
or less). Everything else I pull from this set is dead weight (except Raigeki,
but I have yet to pull one). I have a stack of Mystical Elf and Dark Hole's.

Don't get into a confrontation. If approached by the manager, make sure to smile
and stay calm. Explain that all the packs cost the same, so what's the
difference? But don't argue or cause a scene. One employee saw me weighing packs
in a department store and got on his walky-talky and called the manager. I
packed-up my scale, looked around the store for a few more minutes (the manager
followed me from a distance) and then I left. There's no sense getting kicked
out (banned) from a store I shop frequently. There's always greener pastures.

(Comment on URJustSOL’s idea here: If the manager argues that you’re cheating
customers out of good cards, ask them who gets packs more often. Usually it will
be little kids, or parents of little kids. Young kids typically don’t know how
good a card is, so they don’t even know about what they’re missing. The store
still makes the sale, and that’s where the consideration should stop. If they
tell you that you can’t weigh packs, and they’re NOT a specialty card shop,
you’ll REALLY want to consider telling them you will get all of your YGO playing
friends not to shop there for ANY reason. There is power in numbers.)

Hopefully this knowledge will ensure that none of you ever have to dirty your
hands with a Normal Rare for as long as you continue playing Yu-Gi-Oh!

You know you're obsessed when you:

1) Buy cards every week, more than two packs a week is overboard.

2) Call your friends to play.

3) You watch repeats of episodes alot

4) You have dreams about Yu-Gi-Oh!

5) You mistake your friends for Yu-Gi-Oh! Characters

6) You pretend to be a Yu-Gi-Oh! Character

7) You think you're the best

8) You have every card

9) You play Yu-Gi-Oh! with yourself

10) You say certain quotes such as "Play time is over Kaiba!" over
and over and over...

You have at least half of these addictions? You might need to calm
your Yugioh life down, or just be like the rest of us and be obsessed.

http://www.yqnation.com/index.php?goto=obsessed

Rules For Deck Postings!!!!
1. PLEASE Tell the Theme/Name of Your Deck!!!!
2. No Less Than 40 Cards (Oviously!!!!)
3. POST YOUR DECK IN THE FILES SECTION (UNDER "DECK GARAGE")!!!!

More Rules May Be Added! If You Think Of Any I Haven't Said Please
Tell Me at Supreme_Duelists-owner@yahoogroups.com!!!!

Breaking Of These Rules In Any Way Will Result In Banning! (EXCEPTIONS MAY BE
MADE).

Rules For Deck Postings!!!!
1. PLEASE Tell the Theme/Name of Your Deck!!!!
2. No Less Than 40 Cards (Oviously!!!!)
3. POST YOUR DECK IN THE FILES SECTION (UNDER "DECK GARAGE")!!!!

More Rules May Be Added! If You Think Of Any I Haven't Said Please
Tell Me at Supreme_Duelists-owner@yahoogroups.com!!!!

Breaking Of These Rules In Any Way Will Result In Banning! (EXCEPTIONS MAY BE
MADE).

Hello everyone! This will be sent "EVERY MONTH" to the group, that way no one
has any excuse about not seeing the rules.

If you have any problems here are the active Moderators in which you will want
to contact:
1. demonicdragon2003
2. ddm_duke_devlin
3. doghouse2266
4. exodia01985 (ME, The Owner)
5. LaurieBil
6. undertaker_joe
7. yugiohchic2003

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Supreme_Duelists/members?group=mod
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HERE ARE THE RULES:

1. I have A "3 STRIKES & YOUR OUT" RULE. (3 WARNINGS, THEN YOUR BANNED!!!!!!)
(BANNED- "TO NO LONGER HAVE ACCESS TO GROUP FEATURES, OR LOOSE PRIVILAGES")

2. No uploading HENTAI Pictures (Cartoon Porn). ALL PHOTO'S MUST BE "G" OR "PG"
RATED ("SEXY" PICS ARE FINE AS LONG AS NO "UNAPPROPRIATE" PARTS ARE SHOWN).

3. No "FOWL Language" in the messages you post (Damn, Darn, & Hell are OKAY!!!!)
ANY OTHER CURSES WILL EACH RESULT IN 1 STRIKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4. DO NOT SEND ANY "1 WORD/SENTENCE" POSTS. THIS FILLS EVERYONES INBOX.

5. Just a Reminder: ALL POSTS "REQUIRE" APPROVAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

6.If you learn something new, please share it with us!!!! We want to get better
just like you! Without sharing no one will learn how to strengthen their
game!!!!

7. BE NICE! Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean you need to
tear them a new one. Being rude just makes it hard on everyone.

If I catch any of you doing this, you will get one warning.
When you have 3 warning, you are banned. If any of you think
that there shall be more rules, e-mail me at exodia01985@... and
send me the rules you think should be rules. If I approve, they
become rules. Cya!
========================================================
If someone contacts you personally from the group, and causes any trouble with
you: it is your responsibility as an active group member to notify one of the
group moderators PERSONALLY (Do not email the entire group with your problem).
The person harassing you will be BANNED from the group. Once this person is
banned it is no longer my responsibility as i did all i could to punish the
person for their actions.

This will be updated periodically!!!!

Holo-Pulling with a Pocket Scale:
1. Go to eBay and buy a pocket scale. (I use the MX-200)

2. Go to stores and ask if they allow you to weigh packs. If not, leave
promptly, and if they are rude about it, get your friends to boycott the store.
(The boycotting does not apply to card shops, they either want it to be
completely random for other customers or weigh the packs themselves and don't
want anyone to know.)

Toy stores (Kay-Bee Toys, FuncoLand, GameStop, Electronics Botique) and
convenience stores (Uni-Mart, CoGo's, 7-11, Eckerd) work best. Convenience
stores work especially well because the majority of the employees will not give
a F**k what you do as long as you don't break/steal anything.

Note that blister packs (these are the ones encased in cardboard that will most
likely be hanging on walls) are unwieldy (vary too much) in their weights for
the gram scale to be accurate. Thus, Toys R Us, Target, Wal-Mart, etc. are
ineligible as all their packs are blisters.

3. Weigh each pack out of the set you desire to purchase from. Do not mix sets
-- they weigh differently from each other. If you wish to purchase from multiple
sets, weigh each set seperately. (e.g. do all your Pharanoic Guardian weighing,
then your Legacy of Darkness weights, and so on.)

Note: Once you remove a pack from the scale, it may still say it has 0.1 grams
or -0.1 grams on it. If that doesn't go away after a second or two, put the pack
back on, then take it back off. Do this repeatedly until it says 0.0. Either
that, or turn the scale off and back on. Using the “TARE” function can mess you
up a bit, if EVER so slightly (although it hasn’t hurt me when I did it, it was
still a risk.)

4. Sort the packs into piles based on their weight, in 0.1 gram increments. (For
example, all of your packs that weigh 13.3 grams in one pile, your 13.4 gram
packs in another, then your 13.5, and so on.)

5. Compare the packs and set aside all packs from the TOP TWO TENTHS OF A GRAM.
(For example, if there are packs that weigh 13.3, 13.4, 13.5, 13.6, and 13.7
grams respectively -- note that these are the correct weights for a run of 1st
edition Pharanoic Guardian packs -- set aside the 13.6 and 13.7 gram packs.)

6. DOUBLE-CHECK THE PACKS YOU SET ASIDE. The way you put the pack on the scale,
its position on the scale, etc. could affect the packs by a tenth of a gram or
so. Nothing would be more aggravating than buying a 13.6 gram pack that's
actually a 13.5 gram pack and getting a Normal Rare.

7. Buy all the packs that are still in the top .2 grams. Remember to THANK THE
CASHIER or person who let you weigh the packs. If you're polite about it, and
don't take up too much time/counter space, you'll be more likely to be repeat
the process the next time you go into the store.

8. All packs shall contain Super Rares or higher.

Some extra notes or exceptions:



On Erroneous Packs:

Sometimes a pack will weigh 1.0 or 1.1 grams more than normal. (A 14.6 gram pack
where 13.6 constitutes holographic, for example.) These packs have 10 cards.
I've seen them contain 1 rare and 9 commons...I've seen them contain 2 rares and
8 commons...I've literally watched a guy open a pack and pull TWO RING OF
DESTRUCTIONS out of it. Most often it is 2 rares.

This part is a gamble. The entire point of the scale is to eliminate the factor
of the Normal Rare. (Those of us who have scales are above that) If a pack
weighs 1 gram more, typically you don't want to buy it. (Unless it's like 1.2 or
1.3 grams higher, then it's typically a double or triple holo or something and
thus worth the risk)

On @$$holes:



You may be able to circumvent a place's no-weighing policy by either talking to
or avoiding specific people. For example, the manager of a store may not let you
do it, but typically won't go out of their way to tell the other employees about
it. Just avoid the manager and you'll be fine.

Likewise, if a specific employee knows about the scale tactic they won't let you
do it, just avoid them, or go to the manager and Solemn Judgement that
employee's ass. (I've done this, it's funny as heck)

On Defending your Position and Actions:

Your biggest defense is the most common buyer. Typically at toy stores, little
kids will buy packs more often than experienced players. This is even more true
at convenience stores, where the kid will bug their mom/dad to buy them a pack
on the way out.

These players are usually ripped out of their cards in bad trades -- trading
them a bunch of rares or a super rare for their Ring/Yata/IFL/etc. If someone
had to choose between them getting the cards and losing them in bad trades, or
them never getting the cards in the first place, them never getting the cards is
the lesser of the two evils, by far. (This is why card shops are usually avoided
-- experienced players are the most common buyer there, and you would prevent
someone else who pours money into packs from getting good cards, which may lead
them to take their business elsewhere.)

On Weight Differences:



Pack weights differ between runs. 1st edition LoD differs from Unlimited LoD by
.1 grams. Most 1st editions vary from their Unlimited counterparts. Make sure
not to mix the two or you may error and buy a non-holo.

Pack weights differ between sets. From my personal experiences, PGD weighs
between 13.3 and 13.7 grams...LoD weighs 13.2 to 13.6...LoN about the same as
LoD...but PSV is radically different, ranging from 13.8 to 14.2.

On Non-Weighable Prizes:



Sometimes you may win packs at a tournament -- but since that tournament is held
within a card shop, you won't be able to weigh the packs before you pick them --
or worse -- they may just HAND you your prize and give you no say.

Here's what to do: Take the packs you just won. Weigh them. (They're your
possession now, you can do with them what you wish.) Keep the packs that contain
holos. Go to a place that allows pack weighing, and while weighing packs out of
the particular set your prize was in, do the switcheroo on the packs. (Take the
non-holo packs you won and switch them with holo packs from the store while
buying other packs.) As long as you have X packs of your own when you come in,
and X packs of your own when you leave, the store typically will either not
care, or be none the wiser. Just because your tournament organizer's a d*ckwad
and won't let you weigh the packs doesn't mean you are stuck with bad packs.
(Unless you've been winning TPs, in which case you weigh them, open the
heaviest, and eBay the rest for $15 each.)

Best example:

You win 5 PGD packs at a tournament.  1 has a holo, judging by your scale.  Take
the other 4 to a place that sells PGD.  When starting to weigh the packs,
assuming you're being watched, show them that you brought 4 packs into the
store.  While weighing, casually, shuffle the 4 packs that you know do not
contain holos into the rest of the box.  Weigh out 5, 6, or 7 holo packs, set 4
aside where you had yours originally, then buy the rest.  That way you're still
making a sale (so it won't look as bad), and you get rid of the nasty non-holos.

On 24 vs. 36 count boxes:

Try to make friends with the owner of AT LEAST ONE card shop that gets in
24-pack boxes.  Being able to weigh your way to a Jinzo, Gemini Elf, Yata, or
Ring of Destruction is a very valuable thing. (Those cards ONLY come in 24-count
boxes barring a printing error, so unless you like being stuck with Lava Golem,
Lily, Magic Cylinder, or Imperial Order (actually IO isn’t bad but Jinzo’s
better), then try to get to a 24-pack location.)

Advice from an anonymous pack-weigher:



Don't snack. What I'm saying is don't buy 2 or 3 foils from 4 different
partially filled boxes. If you can find a full box, strip it clean. You'll get 4
SR, 2 UR and maybe a SEC. I've skimmed many a partial box and come away with 12
SR, and crappy ones at that! Which leads me to my next point...

Be choosy about what sets you buy. Pick a set with good SUPERS in it. Get a set
with SR that you need, or that are good trade-bait. In general, I avoid MRL like
the plague. What do I want with ANY toon, toon world, MoP,BotL,Invader or any of
that other junk in the set just to try to pull an AoD? I find LOD or LON a MUCH
better choice. I'm also avoiding PGD because I can't unload ANYTHING but RoD/Don
from this set and the chances of pulling them are small. The only reason I get
any LOB packs at all is because 1 Exodia piece pays for the whole box pull (more
or less). Everything else I pull from this set is dead weight (except Raigeki,
but I have yet to pull one). I have a stack of Mystical Elf and Dark Hole's.

Don't get into a confrontation. If approached by the manager, make sure to smile
and stay calm. Explain that all the packs cost the same, so what's the
difference? But don't argue or cause a scene. One employee saw me weighing packs
in a department store and got on his walky-talky and called the manager. I
packed-up my scale, looked around the store for a few more minutes (the manager
followed me from a distance) and then I left. There's no sense getting kicked
out (banned) from a store I shop frequently. There's always greener pastures.

(Comment on URJustSOL’s idea here: If the manager argues that you’re cheating
customers out of good cards, ask them who gets packs more often. Usually it will
be little kids, or parents of little kids. Young kids typically don’t know how
good a card is, so they don’t even know about what they’re missing. The store
still makes the sale, and that’s where the consideration should stop. If they
tell you that you can’t weigh packs, and they’re NOT a specialty card shop,
you’ll REALLY want to consider telling them you will get all of your YGO playing
friends not to shop there for ANY reason. There is power in numbers.)

Hopefully this knowledge will ensure that none of you ever have to dirty your
hands with a Normal Rare for as long as you continue playing Yu-Gi-Oh!

DECK TESTING

Sure, you could be some sort of deck-building genius. You could make
decks that work the first time, every single time. But if you're like
the rest of us, you need to test the deck. Test it thoroughly. Test
it A LOT. When testing your deck, ask yourself these questions:

How fast am I getting to the cards that I need?
What cards types are giving me trouble?
What specific cards are giving me trouble?
What cards in my deck are useless in most situations?
What cards do I need more of?

These big questions will unlock the key to becoming a better deck.
These questions are there for you to add/remove cards to suit the
situations

JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER OF WHAT THE RESTRICTIONS ARE:

Effective February 2nd, 2004, this is the list of Forbidden and Limited Cards
from Konami.

UPDATED FOR DARK CRISIS!

Japanese, Asian-English and Counterfeit cards are not legal for use in Official
Tournaments. The English print God cards are also not legal tournament play.


I. Forbidden Cards

There are currently no cards on the Forbidden List.


II. Limited Cards

You can ONLY use one of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:

NEW: "Butterfly Dagger - Elma", "Magical Scientist", "Reflect Bounder", and
"Vampire Lord" are now Limited Cards. "Morphing Jar" is now Semi-Limited instead
of Limited.

Breaker the Magical Warrior
Butterfly Dagger - Elma
Call of the Haunted
Card Destruction
Ceasefire
Change of Heart
Confiscation
Cyber Jar
Dark Hole
Delinquent Duo
Exiled Force
Exodia the Forbidden One
Fiber Jar
Graceful Charity
Harpie’s Feather Duster
Heavy Storm
Imperial Order
Injection Fairy Lily
Jinzo
Left Leg of the Forbidden One
Left Arm of the Forbidden One
Mage Power
Magic Cylinder
Magical Scientist
Mirage of Nightmare
Mirror Force
Monster Reborn
Painful Choice
Pot of Greed
Premature Burial
Raigeki
Reckless Greed
Reflect Bounder
Right Arm of the Forbidden One
Right Leg of the Forbidden One
Ring of Destruction
Sangan
Sinister Serpent
Snatch Steal
Swords of Revealing Light
The Forceful Sentry
Tribe-Infecting Virus
Twin-Headed Behemoth
United We Stand
Upstart Goblin
Vampire Lord
Witch of the Black Forest
Yata-Garasu

NEW: "Butterfly Dagger - Elma", "Magical Scientist", "Reflect Bounder", and
"Vampire Lord" are now Limited Cards. "Morphing Jar" is now Semi-Limited instead
of Limited.


III. Semi-Limited Cards

You can ONLY use two of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:

Creature Swap
Last Turn
Marauding Captain
Morphing Jar
Morphing Jar #2
Nobleman of Crossout
Reinforcement of the Army


NOTE: "Backup Soldier" & "Limiter Removal" are no longer limited

IF YOU WANNA MAKE UP YOUR OWN "FAKE CARD", GO TO THE "DATABASE" SECTION & CLICK
ON "Create A Fake Card!!!!" & MAKE YOUR OWN (OR LOOK AT OTHER PEOPLE'S CARDS...)

Here's some cool info. i found about the GOD CARDS on pojo.com:

Ya know the 3 verses you must chant to use RA's effects, WELL here
are the verses that you must chant. You probably won't find this in
many other places, so enjoy:

"Great beast of the sky
Please hear my cry
Transform thy self from orb of light
And bring me victory in this fight

Envelop the desert with your glow
And cast your rage upon my foe
Unlock your powers from deep within
So that together, we may win

Appear in this Shadow Game
As I call your name,
Winged Dragon of Ra! "

P.S. These beasts supposedly represent the polarity of the universe:

Obelisk represents Light and Darkness.

Osiris represents Good and Evil.

Ra represents Earth and Sky.

I found this info. at:
pojo.com/yu-gi-oh/FeaturedWriters/Experiment_JON/2003/112403.shtml

It basically covers reasons that people do/don't like 'em....

Hello everyone!  This will be sent every month to the group, that way no one has
any excuse about NOT being sure what Lord of D. DOES/DOESN'T Protect Dragons
from, so here's a list for ya:

NOTE: THIS LIST INCLUDE "DARK CRISIS" CARDS (Go to links section 4 spoiler)

LORD OF D.

Protects Dragons From:

ALL EQUIPS (i'm not naming every one)
Alter for Tribute
Amazoness Spellcaster
A Wingbeat of Giant Dragon
Bark of Dark Ruler
Barrel Dragon
Bite Shoes
Block Attack
Book of Moon
Castle Walls
Change of Heart
Crass Clown
Dark Cat with White Tail
Dark Core
Dark Jeroid
Dark Master – Zorc (If roll is 3,4, or 5)
Darkness Approaches
Dark Scorpion – Chick the Yellow
Dark Spirit of the Silent
Deal of Phantom
De-Fusion (DOESN'T WORK on dragon/fusion type monsters)
Different Dimension Gate
Dimensionhole
Dragon Manipulator
Dream Clown
Enchanted Javelin
Exiled Force
Gravekeeper’s Guard
Guardian Ceal
Hane-Hane
Interdimensional Matter Transporter
Invader of the Throne
Invitation to a Dark Sleep
Jowls of Dark Demise
Judgment of Anubis
Kaiser Glider
Kryuel
Kuribo
Magical Hats
Magical Marionette
Man-Eater Bug
Mask of the Accursed
Mask of Brutality
Mask of Weakness
Magic Cylinder
Michizure
Monster Recovery
Mysterious Guard
Newdoria
Nightmare Wheel
Offerings to the Doomed
Old Vindictive Magician
Otohime
Physical Double
Polymerization
Raigeki Break
Reinforcements
Relinquished
Ring of Destruction
Roulette Barrel
Ryu-Kishin Clown
Sakuretsu Armor
Skull Lair
Soul Exchange
Snake Fang
Snatch Steal
Spellbinding Circle
Spirit's Invitation
Staunch Defender
Stop Defense
Swarm of Scarabs
Thousand-Eyes Restrict (can't absorb)
Tribute to The Doomed
Tsukuyomi
Two-Pronged Attack
XYZ-Dragon Cannon

Doesn't Protect Dragon's From:

ALL FIELD MAGIC CARDS
4-Starred Labybug of Doom
After Genocide
Adhesion Trap Hole
Amazoness Archers
Array of Revealing Light
Banner of Courage
Bladefly
Blast Held By A Tribute
Blind Destruction
Bottomless Shifting Sand
Bottomless Trap Hole
Bubble Crush
Cat’s Ear Tribe
Chain Destruction
Continuous Destruction Punch
Creature Swap
Curse of Aging
Curse of Fiend
Cyber Jar
Dark Coffin
The Dark Door
Dark Dust Spirit
Dark Hole
Dark Master – Zorc (If roll is 1or 2)
D. D. Warrior Lady
DNA Surgery
Dragon Capture Jar
Earthshaker
Electric Lizard
Eternal Rest
Fairy Box
Fiber Jar
Final Attack Orders
Final Destiny
Fissure
Giant Axe Mummy
Gravity Bind
Guardian Sphinx
Horn of Heaven
Hoshiningen
Huge Revolution
Insect Soldiers of the Sky
Jigen Bakudan
Jowgen the Spiritualist
Kazejin
Kiseitai
Legendary Flame Lord
Little Chimera
Major Riot
Mega Ton Magical Cannon
Messenger of Peace
Milus Radiant
Mirror Force
Mirror Wall
Morphing Jar #2
Mystical Knight of Jackal
Needle Ceiling
Needle Wall
Non-Spellcasting Area
Ordeal of a Traveler
Parasite Paracide
Pineapple Blast
Pyramid Energy
Raigeki
Really Eternal Rest
Reflect Bounder
Reverse Trap
Rivalry of Warlords
Rush Recklessly
Sanga of the Thunder
Share the Pain
Shield & Sword
Skill Drain
Solemn Judgment
Star Boy
Suijin
Swords of Revealing Light
The Regulation of Tribe
The Reliable Guardian
Thousand-Eyes Restrict (attack prevention)
Thousand Needles
Time Wizard
Torrential Tribute
Trap Hole
Tribe-Infecting Virus
Vengeful Bog Spirit
Wall of Illusion
Witch's Apprentice
Yomi Ship

The Cards Recently Added to this list are:

TARGETING:

Alter for Tribute
Dark Master – Zorc ( If roll is 3,4, or 5)
Dark Scorpion – Chick the Yellow
Different Dimension Gate
Guardian Ceal
Interdimensional Matter Transporter
Judgment of Anubis
Kaiser Glider
Sakuretsu Armor
Staunch Defender
Tsukuyomi

NON-TARGETING:

Blast Held By A Tribute
Dark Master – Zorc (If roll is 1or 2)
D. D. Warrior Lady
Final Attack Orders
Legendary Flame Lord
Non-Spellcasting Area
Really Eternal Rest
Reflect Bounder
Skill Drain
Thousand Needles

If you want to look up the rulings for a certain card go to the "Files" section
of the group & click on 1 of these:

Main File 2.0.pdf
Supplemental_File_2.01.pdf
Supplemental_File_2.02.pdf

You know you're obsessed when you:

1) Buy cards every week, more than two packs a week is overboard.

2) Call your friends to play.

3) You watch repeats of episodes alot

4) You have dreams about Yu-Gi-Oh!

5) You mistake your friends for Yu-Gi-Oh! Characters

6) You pretend to be a Yu-Gi-Oh! Character

7) You think you're the best

8) You have every card

9) You play Yu-Gi-Oh! with yourself

10) You say certain quotes such as "Play time is over Kaiba!" over
and over and over...

You have at least half of these addictions? You might need to calm
your Yugioh life down, or just be like the rest of us and be obsessed.

http://www.yqnation.com/index.php?goto=obsessed

Rules For Deck Postings!!!!
1. PLEASE Tell the Theme/Name of Your Deck!!!!
2. No Less Than 40 Cards (Oviously!!!!)
3. POST YOUR DECK IN THE FILES SECTION (UNDER "DECK GARAGE")!!!!

More Rules May Be Added! If You Think Of Any I Haven't Said Please
Tell Me at Supreme_Duelists-owner@yahoogroups.com!!!!

Breaking Of These Rules In Any Way Will Result In Banning! (EXCEPTIONS MAY BE
MADE).

Rules For Deck Postings!!!!
1. PLEASE Tell the Theme/Name of Your Deck!!!!
2. No Less Than 40 Cards (Oviously!!!!)
3. POST YOUR DECK IN THE FILES SECTION (UNDER "DECK GARAGE")!!!!

More Rules May Be Added! If You Think Of Any I Haven't Said Please
Tell Me at Supreme_Duelists-owner@yahoogroups.com!!!!

Breaking Of These Rules In Any Way Will Result In Banning! (EXCEPTIONS MAY BE
MADE).

You know you're obsessed when you:

1) Buy cards every week, more than two packs a week is overboard.

2) Call your friends to play.

3) You watch repeats of episodes alot

4) You have dreams about Yu-Gi-Oh!

5) You mistake your friends for Yu-Gi-Oh! Characters

6) You pretend to be a Yu-Gi-Oh! Character

7) You think you're the best

8) You have every card

9) You play Yu-Gi-Oh! with yourself

10) You say certain quotes such as "Play time is over Kaiba!" over
and over and over...

You have at least half of these addictions? You might need to calm
your Yugioh life down, or just be like the rest of us and be obsessed.

http://www.yqnation.com/index.php?goto=obsessed

IF YOU WANNA MAKE UP YOUR OWN "FAKE CARD", GO TO THE "DATABASE" SECTION & CLICK
ON "Create A Fake Card!!!!" & MAKE YOUR OWN (OR LOOK AT OTHER PEOPLE'S CARDS...)

If you want to look up the rulings for a certain card go to the "Files" section
of the group & click on 1 of these:

Main File 2.0.pdf
Supplemental_File_2.01.pdf
Supplemental_File_2.02.pdf

JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER OF WHAT THE RESTRICTIONS ARE:

Effective February 2nd, 2004, this is the list of Forbidden and Limited Cards
from Konami.

UPDATED FOR DARK CRISIS!

Japanese, Asian-English and Counterfeit cards are not legal for use in Official
Tournaments. The English print God cards are also not legal tournament play.


I. Forbidden Cards

There are currently no cards on the Forbidden List.


II. Limited Cards

You can ONLY use one of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:

NEW: "Butterfly Dagger - Elma", "Magical Scientist", "Reflect Bounder", and
"Vampire Lord" are now Limited Cards. "Morphing Jar" is now Semi-Limited instead
of Limited.

Breaker the Magical Warrior
Butterfly Dagger - Elma
Call of the Haunted
Card Destruction
Ceasefire
Change of Heart
Confiscation
Cyber Jar
Dark Hole
Delinquent Duo
Exiled Force
Exodia the Forbidden One
Fiber Jar
Graceful Charity
Harpie’s Feather Duster
Heavy Storm
Imperial Order
Injection Fairy Lily
Jinzo
Left Leg of the Forbidden One
Left Arm of the Forbidden One
Mage Power
Magic Cylinder
Magical Scientist
Mirage of Nightmare
Mirror Force
Monster Reborn
Painful Choice
Pot of Greed
Premature Burial
Raigeki
Reckless Greed
Reflect Bounder
Right Arm of the Forbidden One
Right Leg of the Forbidden One
Ring of Destruction
Sangan
Sinister Serpent
Snatch Steal
Swords of Revealing Light
The Forceful Sentry
Tribe-Infecting Virus
Twin-Headed Behemoth
United We Stand
Upstart Goblin
Vampire Lord
Witch of the Black Forest
Yata-Garasu

NEW: "Butterfly Dagger - Elma", "Magical Scientist", "Reflect Bounder", and
"Vampire Lord" are now Limited Cards. "Morphing Jar" is now Semi-Limited instead
of Limited.


III. Semi-Limited Cards

You can ONLY use two of the following cards in the Deck & Side Deck combined:

Creature Swap
Last Turn
Marauding Captain
Morphing Jar
Morphing Jar #2
Nobleman of Crossout
Reinforcement of the Army


NOTE: "Backup Soldier" & "Limiter Removal" are no longer limited

Here's some cool info. i found about the GOD CARDS on pojo.com:

Ya know the 3 verses you must chant to use RA's effects, WELL here
are the verses that you must chant. You probably won't find this in
many other places, so enjoy:

"Great beast of the sky
Please hear my cry
Transform thy self from orb of light
And bring me victory in this fight

Envelop the desert with your glow
And cast your rage upon my foe
Unlock your powers from deep within
So that together, we may win

Appear in this Shadow Game
As I call your name,
Winged Dragon of Ra! "

P.S. These beasts supposedly represent the polarity of the universe:

Obelisk represents Light and Darkness.

Osiris represents Good and Evil.

Ra represents Earth and Sky.

I found this info. at:
pojo.com/yu-gi-oh/FeaturedWriters/Experiment_JON/2003/112403.shtml

It basically covers reasons that people do/don't like 'em....