RE: [SACAWars] Guerra Civil 1891.
Éste es el link:
http://www.memoriachilena.cl//temas/documento_detalle.asp?id=MC0009092 tienes
que bajar el pdf.
Y del otro, que a mi gusto es muchísimo más interesante (aunque de más dudosa
veracidad), hay algunos fragmentos aquí:
http://www.batallas.org/viewtopic.php?t=9893
> To:
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> From:
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> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 12:09:15 +0000
> Subject: [SACAWars] Guerra Civil 1891.
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> Nicolás:
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> El color gris azulado, al término de la GdP estaba muy difundido en el
Ejército, de hecho en 1884, era el más usado en la tropa en todas sus
vestimentas. Por consiguiente, no me extraña su uso en 1891. Si me puedes enviar
el link de memoria chilena te estaré agradecido.
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> Saludos,
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> Patricio Greve.
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> De: Nicolás González <
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> Para:
sacawars@yahoogroups.com
> Enviado: lunes, 6 de julio, 2009 23:12:14
> Asunto: RE: [SACAWars] Guerra Civil 1891.
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> Gracias. mis afirmaciones las hago en base a documentos escritos por Víctor J.
Arellano (disponible en Memoria Chilena), combatiente balmacedista, y de juan
Mateo Olmedo, congresista (Algunos fragmantos disponibles en www.batallas. org),
en los que se hace alusión a los uniformes, en el segundo muy recurrentemente.
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> > To: SACAWars@yahoogroup s.com
> > From: patriciogreve@ yahoo.es
> > Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 02:14:55 +0000
> > Subject: [SACAWars] Guerra Civil 1891.
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> > Nicolás:
> >
> > Lamentablemente no es un periodo que he estudiado en profundidad, solo
conozco aspectos vagos de los uniformes de los combatientes. Sólo se que
siguieron usándose uniformes según reglamento de 1878 y los oficiales variaron
sus kepís a unos más altos. Lamentablemente es poco como para opinar, lo demás
es lo que he visto en fotos de la época. En las fotos no se aprecian los colores
que tú dices. Pero esto no es descalificativo, sólo falta procesar información
para dar una opinión más clara.
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> > Saludos,
> >
> > Patricio Greve.
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> > De: Nicolás González <ngonzalezzalazar@ hotmail.com>
> > Para: sacawars@yahoogroup s.com
> > Enviado: lunes, 6 de julio, 2009 22:04:03
> > Asunto: RE: [SACAWars] GdP.
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> > No lo dudo. Una pregunta, ¿Qué tan versado eres en cuanto a los uniformes de
la Guerra Civil de 1891??
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> > Porque se dice que el uniforme balmacedista era azul con pantalones garance,
pero es falso, pues en muchos documentos se señala que ocupaban chaqueta gris
azulada con paantalón y kepi rojo, y que los Congresistas, durante las batallas
de Valparaíso, usaron uniformes enteros "gris humo", y no el blanco de la
campaña del norte.
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> > Cualquier informacion al respecto te estaré eternamente agradecido.
> >
> > > To: SACAWars@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: patriciogreve@ yahoo.es
> > > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:41:58 +0000
> > > Subject: [SACAWars] GdP.
> > >
> > > Nicolás:
> > >
> > > Toda la documentación del libro es real, para las tropas en combate, ya
que se eligió mostrarlas tal como vestían en campaña.
> > >
> > > Saludos,
> > >
> > > Patricio Greve.
> > >
> > > Nicholas:
> > >
> > > All documentation of the book is real, for troops in combat, since it was
chosen as displaying campaign wore on.
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > Patricio Greve.
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> > > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > > De: Nicolás González <ngonzalezzalazar@ hotmail.com>
> > > Para: sacawars@yahoogroup s.com
> > > Enviado: lunes, 6 de julio, 2009 8:21:06
> > > Asunto: RE: [SACAWars] Re: Two new TAW folders uploaded - TAW info guides?
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> > > The chilean book is very accurate, at least about hte chilean side. i dont
know about the peruvian-bolivians
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> > > > To: SACAWars@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > From: j.hall60@btinternet .com
> > > > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:40:18 +0000
> > > > Subject: [SACAWars] Re: Two new TAW folders uploaded - TAW info guides?
> > > >
> > > > Daniel, c.f. Pacific War books:
> > > >
> > > > <<As far as I know the Caliver Book has plenty of errors and
particularly on the Bolivian and Peruvian side.
> > > > I know a historian who did an extensive serarch in south american
archives and he has detailed and reliable info to produce a book to the
standards an requirements of Osprey Books.
> > > > He also have an extensive research on triple alliance war.>>
> > > >
> > > > On the subject of the Caliver title, I have a copy and found it a really
exciting and inspiring book for this period. There are many good colour plates,
photos, images of original weapons, high production value, even if it contains
errors it is a massive advance on what I had previously on the uniforms, a black
and white Eldorado compilation booklet. It is also available in the UK, a big
advantage for me. I tried for ages to get a copy of the similar titled book from
the same authors that was published in Chile a few years ago but without
success.
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> > > > Can you give any indication of how serious the errors are? Do you know
if the Chilean Army published title also by Greve and Fernandez is better or
worse as far as errors go?
> > > >
> > > > I don't know if another title on the Pacific War would interest Osprey,
even if highly detailed and well researched (and this does not always seem to be
an essential pre-requisite with Osprey depending on the subject). Since the
Caliver title they may consider that the market is not big enough and the risk
is too great with a period that is not well known in Europe. If some connection
with the Waffen SS could be established, it may make the book more attractive,
though I might be a bit over critical of Osprey here...
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps a book like this could find a Latin American or US publisher,
and appear as a dual text edition, maybe with European distribution? It would
certainly be a shame to never have the chance to get to know the fruits of
important primary research on the subject.
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