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Re: [Piquet] Re: Prussian Needlegun

Heh, heh... we've got you, Richard! You realize you won';t be able to look
at notmal ga,es the same. "You mean it's my turn and they just do whatever I
want within the rules?"

Peter


In a message dated 1/11/2009 11:25:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
riddcowler@... writes:




Hi All

I didn't mean my original question to sound as a criticism, just to confirm
that we were playing the game correctly and hadn't missed anything. Indeed
during our game the Prussian infantry's superior leadership (using a Superior
card deck) led to them seizing the objective before the poorly led Austrians
(using an Abysmal card deck) could do anything to stop them. As you say, the
usually superior Prussian combat dice made a straightforward frontal attack by
the Austrians certain to be a bloody failure in the face of Prussian
firepower. It was only after considerable preparative artillery, jager fire and
a
major flank attack by the Bavarians that the Prussian position was weakened
enough to try. The Austrian commander offered up a quick prayer and ordered his
division forward. Even then one of the Austrian brigades (all the Austrian
commanders were D8!) failed to move quickly enough leaving just one brigade
able to close with the enemy, and that
unsurprisingly suffered heavy losses (one battalion virtually destroyed by
opportunity fire) before the survivors defeated a Prussian Jager battalion to
gain a foothold. Fortunately for the Austrians the smaller Prussian force had
lost enough UI to reach 0 on it's Army morale Index so the expected Prussian
counter-attack would have to be carefully handled. Unfortunately for both of
us we ran out of game time at this point but the balance of superior numbers
combined with poor leadership verses better quality troops with superior
leadership provided an excellent game, rather than the 'equal' points games
offered by so many rules.

I must be developing a masochistic streak as I thoroughly enjoyed the
challenge of developing some kind of battleplan for the Austrians. Time and
again
an opportunity was constructed only to have a 'Lull!' card drawn or the poor
Austrian commanders fail to score more than one move segment. The most
frestrating point (in a considerable line of frustrating points!) was when the
Austrian cavalry brigade had manoeuvred to strike the Prussian defenders who
had
all (including their guns) already fired. The crack Austrian cavalry needed
one move segment to deliver the coup de grace only for their commander to
throw a '1' on the movement dice! I just love this game!

Richard



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Hi All We've just played our first Austro-Prussian War game with FoB and wanted to check on the situation regarding the Prussian Needlegun. The only advantage...
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Jan 10, 2009
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Sounds rtight to me. UK Mark ... The ... appear...
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Jan 10, 2009
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You also have to consider ratings and formations. Prussian officers and infantry will probably be better, Austrian line infantry might be limited to attack...
bo9493
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Jan 11, 2009
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Hi All I didn't mean my original question to sound as a criticism, just to confirm that we were playing the game correctly and hadn't missed anything. Indeed...
Richard Jones
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Jan 11, 2009
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No problem - I hadn't taken your post as criticism; hopefully my response didn't come across that way. I'm actually finishing my 1859/1866 Austrians (I know, I...
bo9493
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Jan 11, 2009
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... the balance of superior numbers combined with poor leadership verses better quality troops with superior leadership provided an excellent game, rather than...
Bryan Unwin
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Jan 12, 2009
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Isn't that really the issue with most points systems rather than using Historical Orders of Battle or Organizations to run games? getting the points RIGHT...
johnleahy55
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Jan 12, 2009
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... Not everyone wants to play only historical battles. As for organisations, do you really want to turn up for a game with your Napoleonic Spanish division...
Bryan Unwin
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... Reading back over my last post, it looks like I was ranting against non- points based games. That's not really my position, as I've had plenty of enjoyable...
Bryan Unwin
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Heh, heh... we've got you, Richard! You realize you won';t be able to look at notmal ga,es the same. "You mean it's my turn and they just do whatever I want...
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I'm not sure how much this has to do with Prussian Needleguns :-) but I'd like to just clarify some comments I made that Bryan has followed up on. I'm often...
Richard Jones
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Jan 13, 2009
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Mr. Jones you are far more eloquent than I was in expressing why I dislike points in historical games. Thanks, John ... I'd like to just clarify some comments...
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Jan 14, 2009
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... but I'd like to just clarify some comments I made that Bryan has followed up on. ... I'd like to clarify too. I play games both with and without points. ...
Bryan Unwin
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I think it may be your turn to be confused Bryan :-) as I simply have not said anywhere (on this forum or any other) that you cannot have a good game with...
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... You're right, my memory was faulty, this is the statement I disagreed with: "the balance of superior numbers combined with poor leadership verses better...
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