I've finally managed to purchase a copy of Heart of Oak after several months searching. However, the playsheet showing all the tables is not present. I've...
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Pat Collins
tippecanoe8
Apr 2, 2005 3:28 am
... OK, what are you missing? My copy has 4 pages of charts/ tables. These are on thick car stock, between pages 20&21. Some of thes are Wind direction &...
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Pat Collins
tippecanoe8
Apr 2, 2005 3:31 am
... No. ... A very reasonable & playable system. Thanks! ... Hmm. Good point - maybe it should have to roll to "detect" it? Then we'd need some...
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Pat Collins
tippecanoe8
Apr 2, 2005 3:54 am
http://www.avalanchepress.com/gameGandhi.php Proving that humor still exists! Regards, Pat Last Played: Wilderness War, Lock n' Load X2 (via Vassal), Three...
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Rob
mako000013
Apr 2, 2005 8:51 am
In WWII, if I recall correctly, it was difficult, if not impossible to detect a sub with sonar, while the ship was moving at, or faster than 16 - 18 knots, so...
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David Manley
moskit2000
Apr 2, 2005 1:00 pm
... Great stuff, but to be honest I wouldn't be surprised if someone did do a CCG like that one day! DM...
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David Manley
moskit2000
Apr 2, 2005 1:02 pm
... It would make the foxer rather pointless if they were :-) DM...
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Albert Parker
acep@...
Apr 2, 2005 5:16 pm
... various ... This is "Chart 19" in my photocopy of HoO. Sailing xharts 1~4, tacking/mast falling charts, VII.E.1, VIII.E.2, Mast Falling I/I.B, Mast Falling...
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Leonard Heinz
lenheinz2002
Apr 2, 2005 11:54 pm
And for Beatty in context, I'd also recommend Andrew Gordon's Rules of the Game, which is a sort of family history of the Royal Navy in the era 1880-1917 (and...
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Andrew and Rebecca Hall
tigone2001
Apr 3, 2005 7:01 pm
... I never saw any commercially that I liked, and since I'm a cheap bastard anyway, I make my own. Except for the acrylic paint, it costs next to nothing and...
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Byron Angel
byron@...
Apr 4, 2005 2:39 pm
Excellent suggestion Leonard, although IIRC Gordon is not terribly kind in his appraisal of Beatty as a commander. Nevertheless "Rules of the Game" is a...
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Byron Angel
byron@...
Apr 4, 2005 2:57 pm
Boy, it has been a long while since I studied this topic. IIRC - Sonar detection of a submarine by a ssurface escort was influenced by - Speed (noise) of the...
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Richard Borczak
rborczak2002
Apr 4, 2005 4:05 pm
If anyone is interested, I have placed on eBay the Yaquinto games, Ironclads and the Ironclads supplement. Both games are in one box. Games are complete,...
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Vesa Honkasaari
vehonk2001
Apr 4, 2005 7:50 pm
... Now here's a thing I have been wondering ever since I got the Harpoon4 rules. Practically all the US ships had/have the SLQ-25 acoustic decoy. However, in...
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Tracy Johnson
tmjva23666
Apr 4, 2005 8:22 pm
Uhhhh, aren't acoustic decoys by their nature supposed to be emulating a wake? Then it stands to reason, the decoy is not doing its job. ... -- BT NNNN Tracy...
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David Manley
moskit2000
Apr 4, 2005 8:31 pm
... No, they are simulating the acoustic signature of a ship, which is quite different to the wake DM...
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brian.2webb
brian2webb
Apr 4, 2005 8:32 pm
i thought that modern anti sub ships had towed array sonar and also nixie decoys deployed astern so that any torp fired at them would hit the decoy and not the...
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Gorka L. Martinez Mezo
glmm2001
Apr 4, 2005 8:34 pm
... Wake homers were a late comers during the Cold War. Until them, almost all if not all torpedoes on anti surface mode were passive homers which could be ...
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Byron Angel
byron@...
Apr 4, 2005 8:49 pm
Another advantage to wake-homing torpedoes would PRESUMABLY be that tracking of it by the target ship would be difficult/impossible due to self-induced...
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David Manley
moskit2000
Apr 4, 2005 8:57 pm
... Apparently our friends on the other side of the former Iron Curtain had - I read somewhere that the some members of the RBU series of ASW mortars were also...
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Gorka L. Martinez Mezo
glmm2001
Apr 4, 2005 9:13 pm
... I`ve also read about RBU launchers on Soviet capital ships being used as anti torpedo devices, although I have no idea about how they could calculate ...
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Byron Angel
byron@...
Apr 4, 2005 9:37 pm
Somehow I have the feeling that, detected early enough, it would be possible to counter a wake-homer. Considering that these Russian wake-homers are being...
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Vasiliy Shtykalo
vasiliy63
Apr 4, 2005 9:50 pm
These Russian wake-homers never had speed 100 kts. ... From: Byron Angel [mailto:byron@...] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 2:45 PM To: DAVID MANLEY ...
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Pat Collins
tippecanoe8
Apr 4, 2005 11:00 pm
... That would be my guess too. It makes sense that if the Russians had a weapon, they would want to counter it also, just in case we had something similar. ...
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Bob Smart
bsmart111
Apr 5, 2005 2:09 am
... possible to counter a wake-homer. Considering that these Russian wake-homers are being credited with 100 knot speeds, they must have a pretty impressive...
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zonker5001
Apr 5, 2005 4:08 am
I'm interested in this too. As I (so poorly) understand it, the wake homing torpedo oscillates between the edges (boundaries) of the wake of the ship it is...
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Gorka L. Martinez Mezo
glmm2001
Apr 5, 2005 4:12 am
... As far as I know, top speed for any Russian wake homer is around 50knots. No conventional torpedo run faster than around 70 knots IIRC and the Shkvall ...
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Gorka L. Martinez Mezo
glmm2001
Apr 5, 2005 4:14 am
... Hi, Vasily! Most info on Soviet/Russian torpedoes in Western publications is quite confusing, could you enlighten us with some info on current Russian ...
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Gorka L. Martinez Mezo
glmm2001
Apr 5, 2005 4:17 am
... IR missiles go after the heat signature of your airframe and engines, while a wake homer follows a ship`s wake until it hits something. Wake homers have a...
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Byron Angel
byron@...
Apr 5, 2005 2:11 pm
Thanks for the correction Gorka. I am not terribly familiar with modern naval weapons and get most of what passes for info from the general media. I wonder...
