Re: [NavWarGames] Re: Navy Names Virginia Class Submarine USS John Warner
"As for another suggestion - only Medal of Honor winners - that supply
is totally inadequate."
This comment is essentially nonsense. 3458 people have been awarded the
Medal of Honor, more than enough to name every major warship in the WW II
USN much less modern ships, which is the focus of this discussion. Even if
you subtract the 1522 Civil War recipients, many of who received the medal
for acts which would not qualify them for the medal under the current
guidelines, there are still more than enough to name every US Destroyer
and Frigate which is currently in commission and planned.
As for naming ships for politicians, I still contend that the politician
in question should at least be dead before attaching the name. A situation
which applies to neither the USS Carl Vinson or John Stennis as the names
were chosen years before the ships were commissioned. Both Vinson and
Stennis died only months before either ship was completed.
Yet even when one considers the accomplishments of Vinson and Stennis,
they pale to insignificance to the contributions the the survival and
success of the United States when compared to Washington, Lincoln,
Eisenhower and even FDR. Theodore Roosevelt, despite his championing of
the navy, Harry Truman, and yes, even Ronald Regan, whom I admire greatly,
fall short as well. Men much more deserving of the honor would be Thomas
Jefferson, James Madison, or Andrew Jackson (for both his military service
and presidency.)
The secretary of the Navy announced today that the next Virginia- class attack submarine will be named in honor of recently retired Virginia Senator John...
... I'm glad to see someone who's service history is honourable and noted enough to get a vessel named after him. But likewise somewhat dis- heartened that...
... I disagree - This is a continuation of the 'cult of personality' that we have seen taking over the naming of U.S. Naval vessels for the last generation. ...
... Hear, Hear Bob! The USN has lost it's ship naming soul in the past 40 or so years. AFAIC, ships should only be named after people who performed some heroic...
... Actually I think this started in the 70s - depends on your definition of a generation. And the US has been acting like the Bolsheviks for some years now, ...
... Sorry, but a good case can be made that the beginning was when the second MIDWAY class carrier, originally to be named CORAL SEA, was ordered renamed USS...
I'm not sure it is an effective argument implying that those of us with a differing opinion on the naming traditions are myopic and ill- educated on USN...
... even ... John ... But most of those historic names ARE in use. Also, the BURKE class is probably over 1/3 and maybe higher, a re-user of historic ...
Quite correct, and I am simply pointing out that some level of priority should be given to honored names before adding additional "questionable" ones. Your...
"As for another suggestion - only Medal of Honor winners - that supply is totally inadequate." This comment is essentially nonsense. 3458 people have been...
... Sorry, but once again a failure to appreciate some of the ironies of naval history. Thomas Jefferson was the father of the idea of the all-gunboat navy, ...
... I think Howard Chappelle's HISTORY OF THE AMERICAN SAILING NAVY covers Jefferson's "gunboat navy" quite well. For all of what Jefferson did to the Navy,...
Agreed! _____ From: NavWarGames@yahoogroups.com [mailto:NavWarGames@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kstoddard@... Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 11:20 AM ...
One point to consider is that the ongoing USN submarine construction program is probably more about maintaining the economic viability of the submarine ...
Yep. The trouble with submarines is that they dive down under the sea and
you can't see if they are redundant or not. Now if they were to build a new...
There was also anAmerican Civil War Monitor called the USS Terror. That probably won't go over too well. (But I mentioned it before.) ... The Royal Navy...
I personally like the ancient Greek names the RN used. Many had quite remarkable careers at some point in their usage, especially during the 18th and 19th...
By the way, HMS Terror was also a british ship that, together with HMS Erebrus, participated in the illfated expedition to find the Northwest passage, in mid...
I agree 100% , this naming of vessels for Living persons is just plain wrong. I understand wanting to update names but there should be some legendary names...
Awwwww! That's not fair Brooks! I hate it when someone uses logic to ruin a good argument!   Mal Wright Non-torsii subligarium (Dont get your knickers...
The two most inappropriate names for the SSBNs were 1) "Lewis and Clark" -- I suppose we were lucky it wasn't "Moe, Larry, & Curly" 2) "George Washington...