No i'm not. I don;t have an issue with the plastic miniatures. I merely
recognize that other people will. Up front i will fully grant that pewter
models are "better". I will only illustrate why i like the plastic.

I like the 1.1800 scale. It allows battleships and MTBs to both be seen on a
tabletop without taking up the entire table. A mtb at 1.6000 would be silly
and a non starter for me.

I like how the plastic is prepainted so i don't have to. I don't care that
some of the plastics are warped, for that price i'll get another one. Or
use the warped one as my damage or destroyed marker.

The rules are actually pretty good at demonstrating the balances of surface,
ASW, and air combat. My upload was an effort to demonstrate a more
simulative environment without changing base mechanics. And without making
the game too complicated for my nine year old.

That said i'm curious about the tangent you suggested. Is there are a
generally agreed upon best rule set for ww2 naval miniatures?




On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Brandon Musler <bmusler@...>wrote:

> "I've become a bit of a zealot with these Axis and Allies War at Sea
> naval miniatures. I get that they're plastic but for a C note i get about 60
> ships. THat's okay for those of us who need an instant fleet. As has been
> noted however the game is a bit light on simulative quality."
>
> Note that you are conflating two different issues wrt A&A War at Sea
> products. First there are the miniatures. Then there are the rules. There is
> no reason (that I can see) why you can't use one without the other as long
> as you don't mind playing with a sea scale different from the model scale
> (which is common practice for most naval miniatures gamers.)
>
> Beauty being in the eye of the beholder, I explicitly do NOT wish to debate
> the quality of the rules or the models. I merely want to point out that
> although A&A Miniatures employ a scale of their own (that being between
> 1/2400 and 1/1200, pretty close to 1/1800 for the ships, I think) there
> really isn't much reason you can't use them to play GQ or SK or anything
> else as long as you have a big enough playing area and make a few simple
> adjustments. As I see it, for those who don't want to paint and assemble
> their own ships, the tradeoff is straightforward: A&A ships cost less but
> there are far fewer models currently available than you have with
> lead/pewter ships in the 1/2400, or even 1/1200 scale. Also note that if you
> want to buy an "instant fleet" or a "fleet in a box" you can purchase 1/6000
> ships which are much closer to a matching sea scale. Precision painting
> isn't really much of an issue at that scale...
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