I was not aware that this was anything but a private affair and I do not take kindly to my name being used without my consent on the internet.  I didn't realize that is why Conrad wanted my name, but I want it off any website or listing immediately.  Further I don't think this game should count for any arcane ranking system as it is under protest (I believe the final tally should be 6 for England, 6 for Russia).  Conrad, I did not appreciate being included in this listing or on any website, and I wish you had consulted me beforehand just as I wish any normal rule differences had been made clear at the start.  I am serious about this game and my name being taken off any public record and not being contacted again.  Thank you to all concerned. --- On Mon, 11/17/08, Conrad Woodring <conrad3384@...> wrote: From: Conrad Woodring <conrad3384@...> Subject: November 16th Game Report To: NYC-Diplomacy@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 11:54 AM Hi Everyone, Some of you know this and some of you don't. In two weeks I start my new job in Port Arthur, Texas. Therefore I am leaving the New York area (don't worry there will still be a HuskyCon). Matt Dunnam put together a game yesterday so that we could play once more before I left. We managed to get seven two of whom were new players. Here is the center chart followed by a brief summary. 01 02 03 04 05 Austria - Matt Dunnam 4 3 3 4 5 England - Tom Tafero 4 5 5 6 5 France - Gary Stern 6 6 7 7 9 Germany - Jennie Keinard 5 5 5 5 3 Italy - Colin "Cliff" Davis 4 5 4 2 1 Russia - Conrad Woodring 5 5 6 6 7 Turkey - Paul Rovinsky 4 5 4 4 4 In the first year Austria forgot to support himself to Greece therefore bouncing with Turkey. Since Austria didn't want to kill the first time player playing Turkey, I agreed with Turkey to kill Austria. Italy was on board with the plan as well. At the end of 02 we had knocked him down another one and split his forces. By middle 1903 Austria was sitting in Vienna, with another piece in Bohemia and another piece Albania. I decided instead of wiping out austria to stab Turkey, the new guy. He decided to stab me at the same time, thus entangling ourselves and giving Austria the ability to come back and grow. I worked with Austria up through the end in what was probably my worst offensive ever. I kept forgetting to cover the Turkish retreats and although I split his forces (one in naples, one in trieste and two in the turkish home centers), failed to knock him down. On my other front, England and Germany weren't really having conversations with me. They both decided from the first move they wanted to go after russia (or at least England did). England then proceeded to make the slowest attack on Russia I have ever seen in my life. Although I had no pieces in the north (i retreated the fleet OTB when I saw things weren't going to work out) it wasn't until the end of 1904 that StP finally fell. Germany, being a new player decided to help France go after Italy, thus scattering her pieces. She finished with two units in the Italian boot and an austrian unit in Berlin and a french unit in Munich. France, Gary Stern, I have to commend for his player. He played a perfect strategic and diplomatic game. He had a friendly Germany and a friendly England who were making no progress on any fronts. He destroyed Italy. Had we kept playing his growth rate would have certainly excellerated because of the lack of realistic resistance on the board. The game frustratingly started late, and moved very slowly at first. Things picked up as Paul and Jennie got more used to the game and we eventually cut back the time limits to ten minutes. I commend Matt for stepping up to the plate and making the game happen. - Conrad PS Laurent can you confirm that you got these numbers? _________________________________ Conrad Woodring www.conradwoodring.com Gsm 1: +1-716-903-4523