Hi Everyone,

New Website Address for Millennium 3D Chess* Web Site

Yahoo has announced that they are closing their "Geocities" web server on
October 26, 2009.  This means that the original web home for Millennium 3D
Chess* web page is disappearing.

I have created a new home for the Millennium 3D Chess* website at "WebRing" and
the new web address is:

http://webspace.webring.com/people/pm/millennium3dchess/

Please update your web browser's "Bookmarks" or "Favorites" setting so that you
can easily find the new web address in the future.

As always, Enjoy the Play!*  Plus, I'm always interested in starting new email
games of Millennium 3D Chess*, so feel free to contact me if you would like to
play!

Cheers,
Will



*Trademark

Hi Jeffrey,

You may be able to find original pieces on eBay.  I've seen whole sets (board
and pieces) go fairly cheap.

Best regards,

Brent



--- In Millennium_3D_Chess@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffrey Rolland" <jrolland@...>
wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can buy cheap 2" king (< 1" base) chess pieces? I
would be greatly appreciative.
>
> Sincerely,
> --
> Jeffrey Rolland
> <jrolland@...>

Dear William,

Thanks for the welcome message!

[Sorry this is so delayed, I never got the email of the this message; Yahoo!
groups emails have been a bit flaky for me lately - bad luck.]

I understand what you're saying, that any chess board will do.

What I really meant is that I have an old (1970's) Chess^3 3D chess board that
has a 2" king and approximately 1" squares, and I was wondering if anyone knew
where I could buy replacement chess pieces for *this* chess board?

I found 2 1/2" king (cheap) plastic chess pieces at chesshouse.com, but I fear
even they will be too big for my Chess^3 chess board.

Does anyone know where I can buy cheap 2" king (< 1" base) chess pieces? I would
be greatly appreciative.

Sincerely,
--
Jeffrey Rolland
<jrolland@...>

"The weed of crime bears bitter fruit; crime does NOT pay! The Shadow knows!"
  - _The Shadow_

--- In Millennium_3D_Chess@yahoogroups.com, William D'Agostino
<william_dagostino@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Jeffery,
>
> Welcome to the Millennium 3D Chess group*.  This is in response to your
question if a Chess^3 (i.e., Chess Cube) is the right "size" to play Millennium
3D Chess*.
>
> The only criteria is that you have three 8 by 8 chess boards.  The physical
size of the board or squares is not important.  Just like traditional chess, you
could play a 2D chess game on a small travel board or on a full-size tournament
board, and it wouldn't matter.
>
> However, the only real "issue" is that you and your opponent can easily reach
in between boards to move a piece without knocking over the rest of the board.
>
> Personally, I use a "Strato Chess" 3D chess board to play my Millennium 3d
Chess* games as well as to log the chess games using a spreadsheet on my
cumputer with three 8 by 8 grids and chess fonts.  The Strato Chess board could
be bigger, but I can easily move the chess pieces with just-a-little-care while
reaching into the middle board.  This follows the old rule, "if the shoe [board]
fits, wear [play] it!"
>
> About playing an email game of Millennium 3D Chess*, yes, I will be happy to
play an email game.  Would you like to play White or Black?
>
> Also, there is a library of previous Millennium 3D Chess* games on my web site
if you're interesting in learning strategies of others:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/william_dagostino/millennium_3d_chess_open.html
> To other readers on this list:  I will be happy to play additional email games
of Millennium 3D Chess*, so please contact me at william_dagostino@... with
"Millennium 3D Chess*" in the subject line.
>
> Cheers,
> Will
>
>
>
> *Trademark
>
> > --- On Wed, 3/4/09, Jeffrey Rolland <jrolland@...> wrote:
> > From: Jeffrey Rolland <jrolland@...>
> > Subject: [Millennium_3D_Chess] Replacement Pieces and Playing Partners?
> > To: Millennium_3D_Chess@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 9:35 PM
> >
> >Hello, all!
> >
> > I am not sure if anyone is listening to this list anymore, but, if you
> > are, greetings and salutations!
> >
> > I have had a Chess^3 ("Chess Cubed") set since I was a kid, but I have
> > never played Millennium Chess. Are Chess^3 and Millennium Chess sized
> > the same? I just measured my Chess^3 set, and it appears to have 1"
> > squares and 2 1/8" kings. Does anyone know where I can get 2 1/8" king
> > sized replacement pieces? The shortest I have found are 2 1/2" kings.
> > Will these be too big to fit on the 1" squares? Let me know what your
> > experiences are.
> >
> > Also, let me know if anyone is up for a play-by-email game of either
> > Chess^3 rules or Millennium Chess rules game (or both :)). I have a .pdf\
> > scanned in copy oan>f the rules for Chess^3, if anyone is interested. I
> > tried joining the Chess Club at my University (I am a returning math
> > grad student) but they are all too good; I lost every match decisively
> > and didn't learn much from any of the losses. I am hoping that since
> > Millennium Chess is such a novelty, I can get some opponents at my level
> > and can have some interesting games.
> >
> > Thanks for reading, and I hope to hear from someone soon.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > --
> > Jeffrey Rolland
> > <jrolland@wiremail. org>

Hi Jeffery,

Welcome to the Millennium 3D Chess group*.  This is in response to your question
if a Chess^3 (i.e., Chess Cube) is the right "size" to play Millennium 3D
Chess*.

The only criteria is that you have three 8 by 8 chess boards.  The physical size
of the board or squares is not important.  Just like traditional chess, you
could play a 2D chess game on a small travel board or on a full-size tournament
board, and it wouldn't matter.

However, the only real "issue" is that you and your opponent can easily reach in
between boards to move a piece without knocking over the rest of the board. 

Personally, I use a "Strato Chess" 3D chess board to play my Millennium 3d
Chess* games as well as to log the chess games using a spreadsheet on my
cumputer with three 8 by 8 grids and chess fonts.  The Strato Chess board could
be bigger, but I can easily move the chess pieces with just-a-little-care while
reaching into the middle board.  This follows the old rule, "if the shoe [board]
fits, wear [play] it!"

About playing an email game of Millennium 3D Chess*, yes, I will be happy to
play an email game.  Would you like to play White or Black? 

Also, there is a library of previous Millennium 3D Chess* games on my web site
if you're interesting in learning strategies of others:

http://www.geocities.com/william_dagostino/millennium_3d_chess_open.html


To other readers on this list:  I will be happy to play additional email games
of Millennium 3D Chess*, so please contact me at william_dagostino@...
with "Millennium 3D Chess*" in the subject line.

Cheers,
Will



*Trademark
--- On Wed, 3/4/09, Jeffrey Rolland <jrolland@...> wrote:
From: Jeffrey Rolland <jrolland@...>
Subject: [Millennium_3D_Chess] Replacement Pieces and Playing Partners?
To: Millennium_3D_Chess@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 9:35 PM












             Hello, all!



I am not sure if anyone is listening to this list anymore, but, if you

are, greetings and salutations!



I have had a Chess^3 ("Chess Cubed") set since I was a kid, but I have

never played Millennium Chess. Are Chess^3 and Millennium Chess sized

the same? I just measured my Chess^3 set, and it appears to have 1"

squares and 2 1/8" kings. Does anyone know where I can get 2 1/8" king

sized replacement pieces? The shortest I have found are 2 1/2" kings.

Will these be too big to fit on the 1" squares? Let me know what your

experiences are.



Also, let me know if anyone is up for a play-by-email game of either

Chess^3 rules or Millennium Chess rules game (or both :)). I have a .pdf

scanned in copy oan>f the rules for Chess^3, if anyone is interested. I

tried joining the Chess Club at my University (I am a returning math

grad student) but they are all too good; I lost every match decisively

and didn't learn much from any of the losses. I am hoping that since

Millennium Chess is such a novelty, I can get some opponents at my level

and can have some interesting games.



Thanks for reading, and I hope to hear from someone soon.



Sincerely,

--

Jeffrey Rolland

<jrolland@wiremail. org>

























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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello, all!

I am not sure if anyone is listening to this list anymore, but, if you
are, greetings and salutations!

I have had a Chess^3 ("Chess Cubed") set since I was a kid, but I have
never played Millennium Chess. Are Chess^3 and Millennium Chess sized
the same? I just measured my Chess^3 set, and it appears to have 1"
squares and 2 1/8" kings. Does anyone know where I can get 2 1/8" king
sized replacement pieces? The shortest I have found are 2 1/2" kings.
Will these be too big to fit on the 1" squares? Let me know what your
experiences are.

Also, let me know if anyone is up for a play-by-email game of either
Chess^3 rules or Millennium Chess rules game (or both :)). I have a .pdf
scanned in copy of the rules for Chess^3, if anyone is interested. I
tried joining the Chess Club at my University (I am a returning math
grad student) but they are all too good; I lost every match decisively
and didn't learn much from any of the losses. I am hoping that since
Millennium Chess is such a novelty, I can get some opponents at my level
and can have some interesting games.

Thanks for reading, and I hope to hear from someone soon.

Sincerely,
--
Jeffrey Rolland
<jrolland@...>

"The weed of crime bears bitter fruit; crime does NOT pay! The Shadow
knows!"
  - _The Shadow_



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Come join the 3-D Chess Federation. The federation is a
Social Network like MySpace (tm) but for 3-D Chess players and those
interested in 3-D Chess to network together.

http://threedchessfederation.ning.com

Each member (yes it is free) gets their own 3-D Chess Federation web
page, which they can customize. There are also blogs, forums,
"friends" networked, "groups" and more!

Come join the 3-D Chess Federation. The federation is set up as a
Social Network like MySpace (tm) but just for 3-D Chess players to
network together.

http://threedchessfederation.ning.com

Each member (yes it is free) gets their own 3-D Chess Federation web
page, which they can customize. There are also blogs, forums,
"friends" networked, "groups" and more!

Hi Everyone,

Below is another completed Millennium 3D Chess* game.  In addition, I
have added this game to the 3D Chess Library on the Millennium 3D
Chess* web page at:

http://www.geocities.com/william_dagostino/millennium_3d_chess_open.html

Also, as a reminder, please remember to post your completed Millennium
3D Chess* games here on this email reflector.

Thanks!
Will


William D'Agostino vs. Donald Shimoda [1-0]
Millennium 3D Chess*
Started  09 FEB 2008
Completed 16 JUN 2008
*Trademark

1.B2b2   B2b7
2.R2a1   N2b6
3.N2d1   N2g6
4.B3h3   3e6
5.B1f5   Q2d7
6.R3h3   B1d6
7.2h3    R2h8
8.Bx2g6  Rx2h3
9.Bx3f7+ Kx3f7
10.gx2h3  N2c4
11.Rx3h7  R3g8
12.R2a7   Nx2b2
13.Nx2b2  B2c5
14.Rx3b7  Q2f5
15.Rx2b7  R2g8
16.N2d3   R2g1
17.Q3f3+  K3e7
18.Rx3g7+ K3d6
19.N1d5+  Resign
[1-0]

sorry, I don't do computer generated chess games, I am working to bring an
invention to market, a table top 3d chess set-- not a variant, and not a game;
but a device on which chess, 3d chess and it's variants can be played.



----- Original Message ----
From: llinenboy <llinenboy@...>
To: Millennium_3D_Chess@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2008 10:38:44 AM
Subject: [Millennium_3D_Chess] down load


Can anyone give a site to download a good 3d game . I am using dial up



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In Millennium_3D_Chess@yahoogroups.com, "llinenboy" <llinenboy@...>
wrote:
>
> Can anyone give a site to download a good 3d game . I am using dial up
>
I think I can lets do it..

Can anyone give a site to download a good 3d game . I am using dial up

Hi Everyone,

Below is another completed Millennium 3D Chess* game.
As always, I have added this game to the 3D Chess
Library on the Millennium 3D Chess* web page at:


http://www.geocities.com/william_dagostino/millennium_3d_chess_open.html

As a reminder, please remember to post your completed
Millennium 3D Chess* games here on this email
reflector.  Also, please remember to use this email
list when seeking players for a new game.

Enjoy the play!*

Thanks!
Will

Donald Shimoda vs. William D'Agostino [0-1]
Millennium 3D Chess*
Started:   09 DEC 2007
Completed: 09 FEB 2008
*Trademark

1.B2b2  B2b7
2.R2a1  R2a8
3.N2g3  Rx2a1
4.Bx2a1 N2e8
5.N3c1  N2d8
6.B2e2  Q1d6
7.Q3b3  2b6
8.N3g5  Q3f4
9.B2b2  Qx3g5
10.N3d3  B1d6
11.0-0   Q3g1+
12.K1h1  Q2g2++
[0-1]




      
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____
Never miss a thing.  Make Yahoo your home page.
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

Hi Everyone,

I currently don't have any active Millennium 3D Chess*
games in progress right now, so I'm wondering if
anyone on the list would like to start a new email
game with me?

Thanks!
Will





*Trademark


      
________________________________________________________________________________\
____
Never miss a thing.  Make Yahoo your home page.
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

Hi Everyone,

Below is another completed Millennium 3D Chess*
game.  As always, I have added this game to the 3D
Chess Library on the Millennium 3D Chess* web page at:

http://www.geocities.com/william_dagostino/millennium_3d_chess_open.html

As a reminder, please remember to post your completed
Millennium 3D Chess* games here on this email
reflector.

Thanks!
Will

William D'Agostino v. Aaron Smith [1-0]
Millennium 3D Chess*
Started:   20 July 2007
Completed: 19 October 2007
*Trademark

1. B2b2 N2g6
2. R2a1 Q1b6
3. 2b3 R1a8
4. N2d1 Q1b2
5. B2c3 Q1h8
6. B2g2 B1d6
7. B2d5 N2f4
8. B1c6+ B2d7
9. Bx2d7+ Kx2d7
10.Q2d2+ K3d8
11.Qx2f4 Q1g8
12.Q3g4 R2g8
13.Q3e4 N3c6
14.N1f3 3g6
15.R3h3 Q1h7
16.N2f2 R2g2
17.R2g3 R3g1+
18.K2e2 R1e8
19.R2g7 Q1f5
20.Q1g6 R2e8+
21.2e3  Qx1g6
22.Rx1g6 B2e5
23.Bx2e5 Rx2e5
24.R3g8+ K2e8
25.R2a7 2b6
26.R2g8+ K1e7
27.Ra2g7 R2a5
28.Rx3f7 R2a2+
29.K3f2 R3h1
30.K2g2 R3c1
31.Rx3h7 Rc2c2
32.N3f4 3g5
33.Rh3g7+ K1e6
34.Rx3g5 3e5
35.R3g6+ K2f5
36.R2f6+ Resign
[1-0]

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This was my first game of 3D chess, and I speculated before the game
that some of the standard chess principles might not hold up in 3D.
Specifically, I wondered the following:

1) Should rooks stay on the sidelines in 3D chess?  One reason rooks
survive until the endgame in a normal chess match is because they are
such a pain to move around.  There is a lot more space in 3D, so I
thought getting the rooks out early might be effective.

2) Is controlling the center really that important?  The most direct
assault against the black pieces seemed to be on the 3rd board.  I was
not convinced of the importance of controlling the center board.

3) Can black really withstand an early assault by white?  I was
curious if white's first-move advantage was greater in 3D chess, again
because there are so many more options.  I suspected that black might
be hard pressed to defend against a determined attack.

In this game, Wil schooled me on all 3 of my questions.  I believe I
lost by not following good chess principles, and this game is
instructive for that reason.  I will take you through the game from my
perspective - I'm no chess master, but I think I can effectively
demonstrate what was happening in this game.  I'd love to hear
analysis from anyone else who wants to critique the game.  I am white.

1. N2g3

I had looked carefully at the squares before the game, and determined
that 2f7 and 3f7 are the weakest squares for black.  In normal chess,
a good black player can easily fend off a white attack against f7.  Is
this true in 3D chess as well?  My plan is to get the knight to 3g5,
which will aid the queen and rooks in their assault.

1. ..B2b7
2. Q3f3

I didn't really think that the queen would be effective on this
square.  My plan is to get her to 1h5.  I was surprised by black's
next move.

2. ..B3c6

Attacking the queen.  Black wants to stop this attack before it even
starts.  But I was already on my way to a different square.

3. Q1h5 2g6

Another surprise.  Moving pawns seemed to be a little questionable to
me, because the king's safety can be easily compromised with so much
space to get at him.  But black's pawn move turns out to be very
effective throughout the game.  I have no choice but to move the queen
again.

4. Q1h7 R1c8
5. N3g5 N3h6

Black's move defends the 3f7 square, and attacks the queen yet again.
  At this point, it's impossible to keep up the attack.

6. Q1d3 B3g7
7. R3a3 R1d8

It is painfully obvious by now that my queen's exposure is preventing
any white development.  But I was still determined to get something
rolling with the heavy artillery.

8. Q2e3 2f6
9. N2g7?

Here is my first major blunder.  I was still hanging on to the idea
that my knight and queen could effectively get something going
underneath black's king.  I saw that black's rook could harrass the
knight, but I failed to see black's correct response.

9. ..Q2d7

Winning the knight.

10. Rx3a7 Qx2g7
11. R2a7

And in attacking the queen, I have a mating idea which black can
easily stop.  If black were to foolishly move the queen out of harm's
way, white wins with 12. Q2e7++

11. ..R2d7
12. R2a8 N1c8

My threat was 13. Q2e8++.  I was expecting black to block the rook
with either the knight or the rook, and I was confused by the knight
move at first.  But 12. ..N1c8 cleverly attacks my rook and defends
the 2e8 square simultaneously.

13. R3a8+ N3d8
14. R2g1

My second major blunder.  I studied the board carefully before this
move, trying to decide if I could get away with having the queen and
rook on the same diagonal for a move.  I desperately needed some
reinforcements, and I concluded that 2g1 would give my rook the most
mobility between the 2nd and 3rd board.  But black found a way to
exploit my carelessness.

14. ..B3c3+!
15. 2d2 B2d4

And now my knight deficit has turned into a rook deficit.  In a normal
2D game, I could have resigned here.  But I believed that a draw was
still possible in this game, so I continued.

16. Q2g3 Bx2g1
17. Qx2g1 Q1h7
18. N1a3 R1h8
19. B1f4 N2h4

And here, the black knight is attacking my bishop.  I wasn't sure what
black was trying to accomplish on that side of the board.  I opted to
get the bishop into the game on the queen side, hopefully to help my
rook take the pinned knight on 3d8, and I let my pawn on 1h2 go.

20. B1e3 Qx1h2
21. Q2e1 N2f5
22. B1b6 2c7
23. B3d4 R12h7
24. Q3e1

Another blunder, giving black's knight a fork.

24. ..N3f3
25. Q3a1 N1g1

Here I was worried about black's rook moving to 1h1, winning my bishop
and allowing black's queen to attack my king.  My knight went to 2c3,
and would enter 1e3 to guard the bishop on the following move.  But it
turned out I had bigger problems.

26. N2c3 Nx3d4
27. Qx3d4? Q3e1+!
28. K1d1 Qx2d2++

And there you have it.  I had set up a similar mate earlier in the
game, and I completely missed this one.  I blundered several times
during this game, but a lot of my problems stemmed from getting the
heavy pieces out early, which kept me from developing because I was
continually harrassed by black's forces.  My assault on the f7 sqaures
never got off the ground.  And my lack of respect for the middle board
cost me a lot of space that made it difficult to move.  Black's pawns
at 2f6 and 2g6 kept my queen out of where she wanted to be.

I learned a lot from this game, and I hope it was instructive to
others.  I would appreciate any opinions or analysis on this game.

Hi Everyone,

Below is another completed Millennium 3D Chess* game.
     It was a pretty exciting game as White was
setting-up a lot of pressure on Black's King, but
Black offered a seemingly harmless trade which pulled
White's Queen of his back rank allowing Black to
spring a trap with mate in two.

In addition, I have added this game to the 3D Chess
Library on the Millennium 3D Chess* web page at:

http://www.geocities.com/william_dagostino/millennium_3d_chess_open.html

Also, as a reminder, please remember to post your
completed Millennium 3D Chess* games here on this
email reflector.

Thanks!
Will

Aaron Smith vs. William D'Agostino [0-1]
Millennium 3D Chess*
Started:   09 APR 2007
Completed: 18 JUL 2007
*Trademark

1. N2g3 B2b7
2. Q3f3 B3c6
3. Q1h5 2g6
4. Q1h7 R1c8
5. N3g5 N3h6
6. Q1d3 B3g7
7. R3a3 R1d8
8. Q2e3 2f6
9. N2g7 Q2d7
10. Rx3a7 Qx2g7
11. R2a7 R2d7
12. R2a8 N1c8
13. R3a8+ N3d8
14. R2g1 B3c3+
15. 2d2 B2d4
16. Q2g3 Bx2g1
17. Qx2g1 Q1h7
18. N1a3 R1h8
19. B1f4 N2h4
20. B1e3 Qx1h2
21. Q2e1 N2f5
22. B1b6 2c7
23. B3d4 R12h7
24. Q3e1 N3f3
25. Q3a1 Q1g1
26. N2c3 Nx3d4
27. Qx3d4 Q3e1+
28. K1d1 Qx2d2++
[0-1]





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Hi Everyone,

Below is another completed Millennium 3D Chess* game.
In addition, I have added this game to the 3D Chess
Library on the Millennium 3D Chess* web page at:

http://www.geocities.com/william_dagostino/millennium_3d_chess_open.html

Also, as a reminder, please remember to post your
completed Millennium 3D Chess* games here on this
email reflector.

Thanks!
Will


George Davis vs. William D'Agostino [0-1]
Millennium 3D Chess*
Trademark*
Started 29 JAN 2007
Completed 02 JUL 2007

1. B2b2 N2b6
2. N2d1 N2g6
3. N2e1 B2b7
4. B2g2 Bx2g2
5. Nx2g2 R2a8
6. 1c4 R2h7
7. Q1a4 Q2d7
8. 1c5 N2c4
9. Q2b4 N1c2+
10. K1d1 Nx1a1
11. Bx1a1 R2a1
12. Ng2e3 Rx1a1+
13. K1c2 Rx1h1
14. N2f2 R1f1
15. N2d3 Rx1f2
16. N2c5 Q2c6
17. Ne1e5 Rx1e2
18. N1g6 B1h6
19. N2g8+ K3f8
20. Q2c4 Rx1d2+
21. K1b3 Q1b7+
22. K1c4 1b5+
23. Qx1b5 Qx1b5+
24. Kx1b5 Rx1b2+
25. K1c4 Kx2g8
26. Nx3c7 Rx1a2
27. N3d5 2e6
28. N1d6 Rx1g2
29. Nx3d7 Rx1h2
30. 1c6 N2e5
31. K1b3 R2c7
32. 1c7 Rx3d7
33. Resign [0-1]







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I have one just like that.  The pieces have to be
quite short or you can't move them on the center and
lower board.   The ones that originally came with it
were MUCH too large.

The rules, basically a 3d expansion of regular chess
rules were completely un-playable.  The best anyone
could hope for in most cases was a long battle of
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Hello Group;

I noticed this board my self.  But if you look the square do not seem to line up
the same as a normal chess board.  The corners are mixed up. From top to bottom
they go dark light.

Frank D. Hubeny

-----Original Message-----
From: Millennium_3D_Chess@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Millennium_3D_Chess@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of William D'Agostino
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 21:54
To: Millennium_3D_Chess@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Millennium_3D_Chess] Strato 3D (3x8x8) Chess Board at Amazon.com

Hi Everyone,

One of our Millennium 3D Chess* members, Stephen, just
emailed me and said that Amazon.com is carrying a
3x8x8 3D chess board called "Strato Chess".

Just go to Amazon.com and search for "Strato Chess".

This is not an endorsement of this product, however, I
have received 20+ requests from other list members
searching for a source of new 3D chess boards.

If anyone knows of any other 3D chess board
manufactures, then please post it here to this list.

Also, if anyone does purchase the Strato Chess board
from Amazon, then please post your comments to this
list.

Thanks!
Will

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Hi Everyone,

One of our Millennium 3D Chess* members, Stephen, just
emailed me and said that Amazon.com is carrying a
3x8x8 3D chess board called "Strato Chess".

Just go to Amazon.com and search for "Strato Chess".

This is not an endorsement of this product, however, I
have received 20+ requests from other list members
searching for a source of new 3D chess boards.

If anyone knows of any other 3D chess board
manufactures, then please post it here to this list.

Also, if anyone does purchase the Strato Chess board
from Amazon, then please post your comments to this
list.

Thanks!
Will





      
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I've been doing some analysis to see if standard chess endgame theory
holds up in three dimensions.  The first test is the white king and
queen vs. the black king.  This is an easy win for white normally.  Is
it so easy here?

I have the following three pieces:

White king on 1f3
Black king on 2e5
White queen on 3a3

White to move.  White will dominate the center board through use of
the king, and force black to the outside.  Can black's king escape?
Note that the white king, placed in the center, controls a cube of
squares around him.  This is very difficult for the black king to
circumvent, no matter which board he is placed on.

1.  K2e3  K3f5
2.  Q3e3  K2e5
3.  Q2e4+ K1d6
4.  K2d4  K1c6
5.  Q1d5+

My strategy is to use the queen in the more traditional role of roping
off squares for the black king.  It is easiest to keep her off of the
center board, so she doesn't hinder the white king.  The white king
moves his cube of influence closer and closer using the center board,
pinning in the black king.

5.  ...   K2c7
6.  K2d5  K3b6
7.  Q2c5+ K3c7
8.  Q3c6+ K2d8
9.  K2e6  K2c8

Black's only other legal moves are to 1d8 or 3d8.  Both are met by 10.
  Q2d7++.  The white squares are all guarded by white's queen.

10. K2d6  K1b8
11. K2c6  K1a7
12. Q2b7++


King vs. King and Queen can be forced to checkmate.

Hi Everyone,

One of our newer members of our Millennium 3D Chess*
group, Aaron, just caught a game notation error in the
game between Jeff Burhans vs. William D'Agostino [0-1]
which was completed on July 30, 2005.

On move 36, Black moves a pawn to 3g5, however, Black
has pawns at 2g6 and 3g7 which both can move to 3g5.
The correct move should have been recorded as:

36. ... 33g5

This "33g5" notation designates that the pawn on level
three was moved to 3g5.

Please note that all move notation always ends with
the "Level-Column-Row" format, and any additional
information will indicate from where the chess piece
was moved, for example, from level 3.

Likewise, the same move could have used the alternate
notation "73g5" which is equally acceptable.  In this
case, the "7" designates that the pawn in row 7 was
moved to 3g5.

As a general rule, always use the shortest notation
which properly describes the correct legal move.  It
is the player's option to use a number indicating
level (or row) or letter from column.  As you can
guess, there will be times when extra information is
needed such as when a piece is on level 1 and another
identical piece is on row 1 and both pieces could be
moved to the same square.

So, additional information such as the level plus
column, or column plus row, or level plus row, can be
used as a move prefix.  In rare occasions, it could be
necessary to include the full "level-column-row" of
the starting location as a prefix to the move, but
this is a very rare occurrence which has not happened
in any of the games which I have played.

Finally, I wish to personally thank Aaron for catching
this error.  I have corrected the game record, and
please let me know if anyone finds any other errors
with any of the posted games!

As always...

Enjoy the Play!*

Will


Jeff Burhans vs. William D'Agostino [0-1]
Millennium 3D Chess*
Started: 2005 February 12
Completed: 2005 July 30
*Trademark

1. R3f1  B2b7
2. Q3f3  N3f6
3. Qx3b7 B3c6
4. Q1d7  R1c8
5. Q1g7  Rx1c2
6. Q1g8+ K2e8
7. R2e1+ 2e6
8. R2b1  R1c8
9. Q1b3  Q1b8
10. Q2a4+ 2d7
11. Q2a6  N1a8
12. Q1a6  R1h6
13. Q2a5  Qx1h2
14. Q2a8+ R2c8
15. Q2g2  Qx2g2
16. Bx2g2 N2f4
17. B1f3  B3c5
18. N1h3  N3f2
19. Bx1a8 Bx1a8
20. 2g2   N1g2+
21. K1d1  R2g6
22. R2h1  2h6
23. 2g3   B1d5
24. N1c3  B2e4
25. 2d3   Bx2h1
26. Rx2h1 B2d4
27. N1e4  N2g4
28. N3f4  2e5
29. N1g4  B3e5
30. Nx2g6 fx2g6
31. B3e3  R1c7
32. 3f4   ex3f4
33. gx3f4 N3g2
34. fx3e5 Nx3e3
35. R3g1  R1e7
36. 1e4   33g5
37. R2g2  K2f7
38. 3e6+  dx3e6
39. K2d2  N2e5
40. R2e2  2g4
41. N3h4  N2f3+
42. K1e3  2h5
43. N2f4  2e5
44. N2d5  K3e6
45. N2c7  R1c7
46. R3e3+ K3f7
47. N2d5  N2e1+
48. K2e3  Nx3e3
49. Kx3e3 R1c2
50. N1d3  2g3
51. N2f3  1g2
52. N1h3  Rx1b2
53. 1a4   R1a2
54. 2a5   R1a3
55. N1g1  R2a3
56. 1a6   R2a7
57. K2f2  Rx1a6
58. Kx1g2 R1g6+
59. K2g2  Rx1g1+
60. Kx1g1 1a5
61. K1f2  1a4
62. K2f3  1a3
63. K2e4  K2e6
64. 1d4   ex1d4
65. Kx1d4 1a2
65. Resigns [0-1]




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Hi K.Wilson,

I'm good for a game.  Would you like to play White or Black?

Will

  [phizzzt@...] wrote:
Hi there everyone,

I have done some more work on the game, though things were a little
harder to get working than I thought. I'm sure nobody has ever heard
that with software development before ;)

The PGN file reading and writing now works (almost completely) and I
am very close to releasing the beta for a couple players to try. I'll
probably just try to play a game against William first ;)

Pawn promotion doesn't quite work yet when reading/writing a PGN file,
but I can watch most of the recorded games. This should be the last
stumbling block prior to beta release. This may be a little
challenging so bear with me another week or two.

Players can still move to ANY square they want, during reguar play,
but I think that this can be changed during the beta testing stage and
players just need to be careful in the meantime.

I still haven't made new models of the pieces (so the knights still
look lumpy and hard to distinguish, as Bob pointed out) but that is
low on the priority list right now. You can actually see all the
pieces better when you are playing the game. I have adjusted the
lighting to help a little, as well.

I have tested the game on the following platforms:
MSWin (tested 2K and XP), Linux (tested Fedora Core 4,5) and Mac OS
X(tested 10.4). The Win2k machine I used was an old PIII-500 with an
old ATI card. Things were very slow but usable, so my lowest common
denominator target is this old machine. Any higher poly count and this
machine will not run the game.

Thanks,
K.Wilson

P.S. Hey Bob, I'm sorry about the last postings that had my name
listed as Dudley Hart....this yahoo account of mine is VERY old and I
didn't even remember that I put in a random alias when I opened the
account. My name is actually Kelly Wilson. I didn't mean to mislead
anyone ;)


--- In Millennium_3D_Chess@yahoogroups.com, "R.H. Winter"
<ima_potzer@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Dudley,
>
> Glad to see things are shaping up on the program. The pix looked
verying interesting. My only suggestion would be that the pieces,
particularly the knights, needs a bit more clarity (i.e., they are
hard to distinguish).
>
> Please keep me informed.
>
> Best and TCB, Bob
>
>
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi there everyone,

I have done some more work on the game, though things were a little
harder to get working than I thought. I'm sure nobody has ever heard
that with software development before ;)

The PGN file reading and writing now works (almost completely) and I
am very close to releasing the beta for a couple players to try. I'll
probably just try to play a game against William first ;)

Pawn promotion doesn't quite work yet when reading/writing a PGN file,
but I can watch most of the recorded games. This should be the last
stumbling block prior to beta release. This may be a little
challenging so bear with me another week or two.

Players can still move to ANY square they want, during reguar play,
but I think that this can be changed during the beta testing stage and
players just need to be careful in the meantime.

I still haven't made new models of the pieces (so the knights still
look lumpy and hard to distinguish, as Bob pointed out) but that is
low on the priority list right now. You can actually see all the
pieces better when you are playing the game. I have adjusted the
lighting to help a little, as well.

I have tested the game on the following platforms:
MSWin (tested 2K and XP), Linux (tested Fedora Core 4,5) and Mac OS
X(tested 10.4). The Win2k machine I used was an old PIII-500 with an
old ATI card. Things were very slow but usable, so my lowest common
denominator target is this old machine. Any higher poly count and this
machine will not run the game.

Thanks,
K.Wilson

P.S. Hey Bob, I'm sorry about the last postings that had my name
listed as Dudley Hart....this yahoo account of mine is VERY old and I
didn't even remember that I put in a random alias when I opened the
account. My name is actually Kelly Wilson. I didn't mean to mislead
anyone ;)


--- In Millennium_3D_Chess@yahoogroups.com, "R.H. Winter"
<ima_potzer@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Dudley,
>
> Glad to see things are shaping up on the program. The pix looked
verying interesting. My only suggestion would be that the pieces,
particularly the knights, needs a bit more clarity (i.e., they are
hard to distinguish).
>
> Please keep me informed.
>
> Best and TCB, Bob
>
>
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>

Hi Dudley,

Glad to see things are shaping up on the program. The pix looked verying
interesting. My only suggestion would be that the pieces, particularly the
knights, needs a bit more clarity (i.e., they are hard to distinguish).

Please keep me informed.

Best and TCB, Bob


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Hi William et al.,

Just to let you know that I have made some progress on
the game that I mailed the list about a few weeks
back. It's been a little slow as I have been out of
town.

I now have the PGN file reading working, so that I can
watch some of the matches posted on the Yahoo site.
There is still one bug to work out for this part.

I don't have the PGN file writing working just yet,
but that should be fairly easy since I now have the
structure of the valid game piece movements set up.

I have added some cameras to the game so that you can
see different views of the game boards just by
pressing the  function keys. This means you don't have
to zoom/pan around the board with a single camera,
which ultimately means I can use higher poly (ie.
smoother looking) pieces without stressing the
computer.

You can see a couple more (grainy) screenshots here:

http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~wilsonk/3dchess.gif
http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~wilsonk/3dchess1.gif
http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~wilsonk/3dchess2.gif

Sorry about the quality of the gif pictures, but I
don't want everyone to have to download 1M files ;)

I will keep you posted as to when I can release a beta
copy for testing.

Thanks,
K.Wilson

--- William D'Agostino <william_dagostino@...>
wrote:

> Hi K.Wilson,
>
> Thanks for building a 3D computer version of
> Millennium 3D Chess*, and I'll be happy to help beta
> test it with you.  It looks like you're off to a
> good
> start!
>
> In reference to the "legal" stuff, I will be happy
> to
> grant you a free license to use the Millennium 3D
> Chess* rules and name provided that you offer your
> progam as "freeware" and include my copyright and
> trademark notice.  I can help write the legal notice
> when you get nearer to your offical release.
>
> But, I'm excited to see your program, and I hope it
> will help others to play and enjoy the game...
>
> Please keep me posted with your process...
>
> Thanks,
> Will
>
> *Trademark
>
> P.S. Yes, Orion also has a "beta" version of a PGN
> program for reading Millennium 3D Chess* games...
> I'm
> looking forward to seeing the final release of
> Orion's
> program too.
>




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Hey Bob,

Thanks for the offer of writing something on this
game. I will definitely keep you all informed. (Please
read the other email I just posted to the
group---which I am assuming you get a copy of ;)

Thanks,
K.Wilson

--- "R.H. Winter" <ima_potzer@...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> If you get this thing finished, I will give you a
> write-up in chessville.com
>
> I've been meaning for some time to do a piece on 3-D
> chess.
>
> Please be sure to keep meinformed,
>
> Bob
>



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If you are interested in 3D chess- do you know about
Parmen?  It plays Star Trek 3D chess.  Let me know if
you are wanting more info- I'm in the club that plays
it on the net.
--- "R.H. Winter" <ima_potzer@...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> If you get this thing finished, I will give you a
> write-up in chessville.com
>
> I've been meaning for some time to do a piece on 3-D
> chess.
>
> Please be sure to keep meinformed,
>
> Bob
>
> phizzzt <phizzzt@...> wrote:
>                Hello William et al.,
>
>  I have been working on a 3D version of Millenium 3D
> Chess* for a
>  little while now. There should be a screen shot of
> the "beta" board
>  and characters at this location:
>
>  http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~wilsonk/3dchess.gif
>
>  The game has NO game AI (artificial intelligence),
> as yet, and the
>  moving of the pieces is completely controlled by
> the users without
>  restrictions (ie. one could plop two pawns on the
> same square). This
>  is truly "beta", at this point ;)
>
>  You may be able to see a couple things on the board
> -- the white Queen
>  is highlighted in green, since it is the currently
> chosen piece for
>  the white player. There is also a square sized blue
> outline just in
>  front of the queens pawn...this is where the
> currently selected piece
>  will move to.
>
>  You probably can't see the third level chess board,
> but it is
>  there...it is just that the view is too narrow to
> show all the pieces
>  and all three boards with a clear view ;) You may
> also notice the
>  pieces don't look very
> "smooth/sophisticated"...this is because I am
>  just catering to a low common denominator here (ie.
> no hardware
>  acceleration for the 3d graphics)...but I can
> change the models for
>  each piece later. There are also a few  pixels out
> of place but that
>  resolves itelf when you zoom in or out to view the
> pieces more clearly
>  (it is a slight rendering problem).
>
>  I am working on reading PGN right now so that you
> could watch the
>  games from the library being played out. This will
> also give me the
>  ability to email "game files" back and forth to
> move the pieces with a
>  partner. Of course, the game AI for playing against
> a computer will be
>  the hard part, but that will come later.
>
>  This game should be available for Linux, MacOSX and
> Windows, but I
>  have only tested Linux/Mac so far.
>
>  Let me know what you think,
>  K.Wilson
>
>  P.S. I understand Orion has a PGN reading 3D
> program in beta, as well.
>  Oh well, never hurts to have more than one
> alternative ;)
>
>  *Trademark William D'Agostino <---not sure if this
> is necessary but I
>  don't want to offend or do something illegal ;)
>
>
>
>
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My bad - I forgot that the List doesn't allow attached
files! *DOH!*

So anyway, here are two links to screen captures from
the early Beta version of Knight Commander, a PGN
viewer for 2D and Millennium 3D Chess games...

The first one is Will's game against Davis, the second
one is where Will is beating the snot out of me - the
current position of our game at the moment.

http://www.noonelike.us/~orion/KC1.jpg
http://www.noonelike.us/~orion/KC2.jpg

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