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RT = Rules Team
1. Multiple Attacks
2. Specificity
3. Furok Guardian Memory
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QUESTIONS
> 1. Well, I've been needing an official ruling on this for a week
now,
> since even though I'm a director, some of my players still doubt
me.
> So:
>
> If I have a Bungaloo, and I weave seed it, then play The Hunt (in
> that order), can it attack 3 times, or 2? (The hunt allows weave
> creatures to attack twice, while weave seed allows an additional
> attack.) Or using Yaki as your magi? Or using Yaki's Gauntlets as
> well?
From the 01/13/03 digest:
13. Last night I played a fierce game between Weave and Kybar's
Teeth, and I was wondering about something in the game and making
sure if I did it right....
I had a Seaweed Lascinth on the field, so I decided to play the Hunt
(all your Weave creatures can attack twice this turn), and then
played Weave Seed (add 7e to a Weave creature, and it can attack an
additional time). So I had a Seaweed Lascinth out for 11e, and I had
it attack three times that turn. My question is, was he supposed to
attack three times, or only two times?
RT - No matter the order cast, the Creature gets to attack twice as
well as the ability to attack an additional time; the net result will
be three either way.
>2. On another note, what's the official ruling on General effects
versus
> specific effects? Here's the example. Speag's effect says: Speag
> cannot attack. Yet using Empress Gia, (with a Core card in play)
> Speag should be able to attack. What about a creature that was
> Crystallized? Or One that was just stolen or played with Crushing
> Darkness? Can those creatures attack, (because they cannot
normally
> attack) Those have spells that specifically say 'this creature
> cannot attack" while Empress Gia is general (all creatures). Which
> effects win?
RT - We have 3 Levels of Specific-ness. General (like Rayje's Boots),
Specific (Like Mantle of Shadows), and Magi-Specific (Any effect that
specifically refers to the Magi like Kesia). Magi-Specific overrules
everything, and Specific overrules General. In almost all cases this
specificity really only applies to actions/Effects that set up some
kind of durational state.
Empress Gia states "If you have Core cards in play, all of your
Creatures may attack, even those that cannot normally attack." (Per
clarification, Empress Gia is not to be included when checking to see
if either or her Effects triggers.) She specifically overrides any
ongoing inability to attack, per card text (such as Speag or
Crystallize), but does not override any one-shot limited-duration
specific effects (such as Crushing Darkness).
>3. Furok Guardian has
>
> Effect - Terra Rebirth: Whenever one of your other Creature is
> discarded from play, you may discard five energy from Furok
> Guardian. If you do, return the discarded Creature to play with
its
> starting energy at the end of the current player's turn.
>
> I have a Furok Guardian and a bungaloo in play. My opponent has a
> severos. It's his turn. He attacks my bungaloo and defeats it.
> Furok Guardian's effect triggers. I have 2 other bungaloos in my
> discard pile.
>
> Now after play creatures, the severos uses its power which reads:
>
> Power - Mind Dredge: (1) Choose a Creature in an opponent's discard
> pile. Play the chosen Creature, ignoring regional restrictions and
> penalties... etc.
>
> to play a bungaloo from my discard pile.
>
> What happens at the end of my turn?
RT - The answer depends on which Bungaloo your opponent chose to
Dredge up. If he chose the same Creature that was discarded, that
Creature is already IN play at the end of his turn, and cannot
therefore be returned to where it already is. If for some reason he
chose a different copy, your defeated Bungaloo will return at the end
of the turn as normal. If there is a dispute about which Creature
was chosen from the discard, first chastise yourself for such
unsportsmanlike bickering... then presume that the Creature nearest
the top of the discard was chosen to be put into play via Dredge.
I'll also note that the Bungaloo can be 'returned to play' from any
out-of-play area. That is, if it somehow gets placed in your hand or
your deck during the turn it was discarded, it will still return play
at the end of the turn. It's only when it is already IN play that
the effect fizzles.
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NON-LEGAL LIMITED CARDS:
The following list of cards is provided as a reference to cite
current, non-legal promotional cards, and their expected legal date:
Power of the Creators: No date currently planned.
Tony at a Con: No date currently planned.
Dan (including alternate artwork): No date currently planned.
Ludi: No date currently planned.
-Rich Riley
Redeemer of Ogar
Magi Nation DUEL Rules Team