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RT = Rules Team

ANNOUNCEMENTS AND CLARIFICATIONS
1. Magi Defeat
2. Climbing Staff and Order of Effects
3. Jip and Gain
4. K'ygn's Energize
5. Relic Guard
6. Stacking Effects
7. As If…
8. Attached Creatures
9. Night's Shade
10. Weebolicious
11. Warrada, or not Warrada?
12. Weaving
NON-LEGAL LIMITED CARDS

ANNOUNCEMENTS AND CLARIFICATIONS

Lesser Darbok
Effect - Defend: When you play Lesser Darbok, choose one of your other
Creatures in play. While Lesser Darbok has energy, the chosen Creature cannot
be attacked.
Effect - Tangle: If Lesser Darbok is defeated while defending, attach Lesser
Darbok to the attacking Creature. While Lesser Darbok is attached, other
cards cannot affect it and it cannot be discarded from play for having zero
energy. The Creature it is attached to cannot attack.

GENERAL GAMEPLAY RULING

A Magi is defeated when they have no energy in play.

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1. When an opposing Magi has no energy and no creatures on their side
of the board, what happens to creatures of his that I took control
of? Do they get discarded when the magi who summoned them is
defeated? How about creatures played with Severos? Or, on a similar
line, relics stolen with Crushing Surf?

RT - When a Magi is defeated, all cards under their control are also
discarded from play. This does not affect cards that the defeated
player owns which may still be in play under the control of an
opposing player. The manner in which the opponent gained control of
the card is irrelevant.
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2. Suppose I use Ninx to Stare Down the opposing Magi and the
opponent discards Climbing Staff to make the Stare Down do nothing; I
then play a Climbing Staff targeting the Climbing Staff of my
opponent (if that is possible), since it is affecting my Mage.

RT - You cannot use a Climbing Staff to stop a Climbing Staff.

Cards like Climbing Staff and Bloom may have the potention of
creating "batch" of effects like this, even longer. How they are
handled?

RT - The active player, the player whose turn it is, resolves his
effects and actions first.

Also, I would like to know if it is possible to take control of a
creature with the Effect: Resistance with Spirit of the Core, since
you play the Spirit when your Magi is defeat and only pick the
creature later, when the Spirit is long gone.

RT - Spirit of the Core is a Core Spell, and as such may not affect a
Creature with Resistance.
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3. Player A had a Jip on the table. Player B had a Mirago on the
table. Player B played a Gwaeg and discarded Olabra's Staff to
Mirago's effect, adding an additional 2 energy to Gwaeg. Was the Jip
able to gain energy from this?

RT - Yes. The Gwaeg is gaining two energy.

Would the same apply to Robe of Vines/Staff of Hyren/etc.?

RT - Yes.

Or is it like Dreamwarp but without paying extra energy off your magi?

RT - No, Dreamwarp actually changes the starting energy, so the cost
is different.
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4. When does Kyg'n's nameless Effect trigger, and how long does it
last? In Nightmare's Dawn, players could just assume that it was
whenever Kyg'n energized, but now we have this lovely little Nar
spell called Exposure...

RT - It is always in effect and checking. As such, if you have one
Creature in play and play an Exposure, K'ygn would lose four energy.
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5. Orpus states that if ONE of your relics is targeted, you can
discard energy from the Orpus to protect that relic. What happens
when you opponent uses a card such as Beam of Light or Vaporize? Can
the Orpus protect all targeted relics?

RT - If the Beam of Light is discarding two of your Relics, the Orpus
may discard one energy to save the first and another energy to save
the second. Against Vaporize, the Orpus can choose to protect as
many as it has energy for.
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6. Does Stradus' backlash stack with creatures' backlash?

RT - Yes it does. The are no rules that state Powers or Effects may
not stack if they have the same name.
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7. EFFECT - Reconstruct: Once per turn, you can play a Furok from
your discard pile as if it were in your hand, paying all costs.

One player (the one playing Core) interprets the EFFECT more as if it
is a POWER, only using it when they are the active player and only
when they are in the "Bring creatures into play phase".

Another player disagrees, saying it is an EFFECT and can be triggered
on either player's turn (either as an attacker on the Core player's
turn, or as a blocker on the opponent's turn).

Is either of these the correct interpretation, and if not - what is
the correct interpretation. If not correct, should the effect be
changed to
a power? Should the effect only trigger on the active player's turn?

RT - Because Reconstruct states "as if it were in your hand," you may
play a Furok using the Effect any time that you are allowed to play
creatures. Without another card effect, Reconstruct is only relevant
during your Play Creaures step, as this is the only time you may
normally play creatures.
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8. Lesser Darbok, d'Resh Dream Creature

Effect - Defend: When you play Lesser Darbok, choose one of your
other creatures in play. The chosen creature cannot be attacked
while lesser darbok is in play.

Effect - Tangle: If Lesser Darbok is defeated while defending, attach
Lesser Darbok to the attacking Creature. While Lesser Darbok is
attached, that Creature cannot attack.

Ok, here's the situation and the problems.

With my final two energy I play a Lesser Darbok, with defend I choose
my Sikra an illusionary creature. The following turn a wasperine is
played and attacks my Lesser Darbok which defeats it. This now triggers
tangle, which now my lesser darbok is now on the wasperine.

Now here's the problems.

1.) Check to see if the creature is defeated, well the lesser darbok
still has no energy on it. So it's defeated again. (Wait a second if
this is the case Tangle does nothing and 2i wasted ink.)

RT - Lesser Darbok's Effects should read as follows:

Effect - Defend: When you play Lesser Darbok, choose one of your other
Creatures in play. While Lesser Darbok has energy, the chosen Creature cannot
be attacked.
Effect - Tangle: If Lesser Darbok is defeated while defending, attach Lesser
Darbok to the attacking Creature. While Lesser Darbok is attached, other
cards cannot affect it and it cannot be discarded from play for having zero
energy. The Creature it is attached to cannot attack.

2.) Check to see if my Magi is defeated. (Well a creature can't
normally be in play with zero energy but my Lesser Darbok is in play
and I have an illusionary creature in play (the Sikra)) Guess my Magi
is still alive, because I have a non-illusionary creature in play.

RT - The rules for Magi defeat are stated in a slightly misleading manner in
the rulebook; Magi are defeated specifically when they have no energy in play
(as Illusionary Creatures do not count for purposes of Magi defeat, they are
treated as having 0E), not generally when they have no Creature cards in play
and no energy themselves.

3.) Attacking the Lesser Darbok (which I'm assuming you can do
because it's still in play) defeats the Lesser Darbok again,
transferring his Tangle to the new creature. So basically you can't
attack it again to get rid of it. Can you use a spell such as
Brushfire or Shockwave? I know a Beam of Light works after all it is
a creature with less then two energy

RT - The Darbok cannot be affected; it may still be attacked and trigger any
Effects dependent on attacks, but otherwise nothing will happen.

4.) Lets Assume that my magi is not defeated by any of the above
results. The lesser darbok is still in play because of Tangle...so
can the Sikra be attacked?

RT - Yes, because the Lesser Darbok no longer has energy.

5.) I have a creature with zero energy in play, can it still act like
a normal creature? Basically can it be the target of my spells such
as Heal and be forced to attack by say Will of Orothe?

RT - Any Creature that can keep itself in play with 0E generally has text
stating that it cannot be affected; the Darbok managed to slip through
proofreading.

6.) I cast Heal giving one energy to Lesser Darbok the rest to my
Sikra. So now my Tangle does nothing but he is still attached to the
Wasperine? The lesser darbok is now attacked by a Furok which defeats
it, again. Can the lesser darbok be attached to two different
targets? Did it ever stop being attached to the Wasperine? Since the
Wasperine was affected by the first Tangle and now Tangle has
triggered again and hit a Furok are both creatures affected by
Tangle?

RT - The Lesser Darbok cannot be affected.

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9. Does Gumph's effect trigger when it is itself discarded from play?

RT - No.

If my opponent has no creatures in play and my Gumph triggers, must I
hurt one of my own creatures?

RT - Yes.

If my opponent has a Dagok and I have a Gumph, can I choose to have
my Gumph hurt itself rather than give energy to my opponent's
creature?

RT - Yes.

Once per turn means once per Gumph, right? If I have all three Gumphs
in play I can use their effect up to three times that turn as long as
I have three triggers, right? Or can they all trigger on one card
being discarded from play?

RT - If you have three Gumphs in play, they must all trigger upon a
Creature discard because they do not say "may".
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10. What REALLY happens when a Weebo targets a Dagok? If the Dagok is
not below it's starting energy, can the Weebo even touch it? The
wording on Weebo is "choose one creature in play with less than it's
starting energy..." If a Dagok is at three energy and a Weebo hits
it, does the Dagok lose only two energy?

RT - The Weebo attempts to return the Dagok to it's starting energy.
If it has three, it would lose two, because the Weebo would try and add two,
but Dream Inversion turns it into energy loss instead.

What if the Weebo is controlled by a Cald magi with Scroll of Fire?

RT - The Weebo would still try to add two, which is unaffected by the
Scroll of Fire. After all of your effects are used, the opponent's
turn kicks in and it is changed to energy loss.

What if Sunburn is attached to the Dagok?

RT - The Weebo would still try to add two, but since Sunburn says
whenever, it is always checking for energy loss. When the energy gain is
changed to removal, the Sunburn kicks in and adds to it.

If Flame Saver Tryn is controlling the Weebo and she uses her power
to turn energy discard into energy adding, would the Weebo end up
restoring the Dagok back to five energy?

RT - If you mean "she uses her power to turn energy adding
into energy discard", then yes, the Dagok would get restored, because
it would change it back into a gain.

Don't know if this has been asked yet but can you haunt a Cawh. You
are not gaining control of it you are playing it as if it is in your
hand.

RT - Yes, you may cast Haunt on a Cawh. In order for you to replay
it however, you must manage to defeat it during your Play
Creatures step, since that is the only time you can play it. If you defeat
the Cawh while it has Haunt attached at any other time, the Haunt and
Cawh are both discarded from play.
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11. Lets say that my Dark Twins are defeated, and I reveal Niffer
choosing Weave as her second region. Then I play both Abwin's Quill
and Ritual's Spear. Can I use the Quill's Power to change an instance
of Weave to Core in the Ritual's Spear and then revive my Dark Twins,
since they are only alternate Hrada and I am returning only one Magi
to play?

RT - Yes, this combo can revive a dual magi. Dual Magi count as two magi only
for deck construction purposes.
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12. Is Weave Hyren's effect triggered when a weave creature "weaves"
to him.

RT - Yes; this was Weave Hyren's primary intended use in design.
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NON-LEGAL LIMITED CARDS

The following list of cards is provided as a reference to cite
current, non-legal promotional cards, and their expected legal date:

Glade Hyren: May 14th, 2003
Power of the Creators: No date currently planned.
Tony at a Con: No date currently planned.
Dan (including alternate artwork): No date currently planned.
Ludi: No date currently planned.

















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