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RT = Rules Team

IN THIS DIGEST:

Announcements and Clarifications.
1. Torpars and Wildfire.
2. Shadow Zajan's Ebony Mirror.
3. Karak's Theft.
4. Spirits.
5. Overwrite problems.
6. Dueling Flameplates.
Non-Legal LIMITED Cards

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ANNOUNCEMENT

The Rules Team requests that no more rules questions be submitted in the form
of "fiction". Questions not asked in the form of game mechanics cannot be
answered.

Additionally, questions asking if a ruling is "still true" or if a ruling has
been reversed will not be answered, either; the rules team maintains an
archive of rules digests to answer these questions, and being hindered by
these slows down the digest creation process as well.

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J (jsniegowski@...) writes:

1. First If I have two torpars in play if someone plays wildfire against me
and I have three creatures in play do they both lose six or does one lose six
being of my choice because of which effect to resolve?

RT - You would choose the order in which the Torpars activate and take the
energy loss from all of your Creatures onto themselves; the first one you
choose to resolve will redirect all of the energy loss to all of your
Creatures from the Wildfire to it, then the second Torpar's Effect will
resolve and direct all of the loss to itself instead.

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Ricardo Maurosa (karsus_avatar@...) writes:

2. Zajan

Effect - Sleep All Day: Zajan draw two cards during the energize
step. Zajan does not draw cards as normal during the draw step.


Ebony Mirror

Effect - Grim Reflection: At the beginning of each player's draw
step, if that player has more cards in his or her hand than any
other player, that player draws one less card this turn. While Ebony
Mirror is in play, all players draw at least one card during their
draw step.


Warrada's Ring

Effect - Phenomenal Cosmic Power: At the beginning of each of your
turns, choose either to draw an additional card at the end of the
turn, or to have all of your Core cards cost one less energy to
play, to a minimum of one, until the end of the turn.


This cards combo may work. If Zajan is after the Dark Twins or
Nagsis he will be able to play Ebony Mirror and Warrada's Ring.

Zajan Draw in his energize step, but his effects doesn't change the
step. So we think that with Ebony Mirror in play Zajan will have to
draw at least 1 card during his draw step, so if Warrada's Ring is
also in play he may draw an additional card if the opponent has more
cards in hand, of course. Am I right or not?

So Zajan will be quite good. Draws 2 cards at energize step and draw
to more at draw step, plus his energize.

RT - The Mirror cannot restrict the ability to draw a card from Warrada's
Ring; the card is drawn at the end of turn, not during the Draw step, and the
Mirror only affects cards drawn during the Draw step. The Mirror will also
allow Zajan to draw one card during the Draw step, in addition to his two
during the Energize step.

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SSJ_Mato (c_radd@...) writes:

3. Can a Karak or Tidal Karak take control of a legendary relic such as
Tomes of the Great Library, Kybar's Fang, and Key to the Vault of
Knowledge? I forgot the name of the overpowered Weave one.
If the Karak/Tidal Karak can seize the legendary relic, would that
count for the effect that discards it from play if the magi is not
________ ?
This question is not about Orothe magi taking control of opposing
relics so much as it is about denying the opponent use of that
relic. Well, it's about taking control of relics for the purposes of
Corothan and and Karak Band/Necklace as well, I guess.

RT - Karak does change controllers, Tidal Karak does not; the Tidal Karak
plays the Relic from the discard pile, meaning you always control it.
However, because each of these Relics require your Magi to be of an
appropriate region, then your Magi must still match that region or the Relic
is immediately discarded.

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razzbarryv (razzbarryv@...) writes:

4. A: If I am usnig Lasada and he gets defeated, if I play a Spirit of
Arderial, can I reshuffle, then draw 3 or am I forced to draw 3
before the reshuffling?

RT - All defeat effects are processed before Spirit cards are played; Lasada
would draw three and Adis would discard three before the Spirit were used.

B: If Niffer still has 2 energy while Risha is using Prophecy, can she
Overwrite a Spirit of Naroom to change Eternal Vigor to "Whenever one of your
Arderial Creatures..."? Likewise with Spirit of Paradwyn or Spirit of the
Core.

RT - No; Spirit Spells are played once the Magi leaves play, and so there
will be no Niffer to Overwrite it. Though you may not normally play cards
without an active Magi, the Spirit Spells are an exception, as long as you
can still pay the costs for it.

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Mike (mont1983@...) writes:

5. Overwrite now says that it can only be used once per turn. If I have
Niffer and an Abwyn's Quill in play, can I use each Overwrite once
per turn, or am I limited to one usage period?

RT - Because neither Overwrite uses the phrase "you may only use Overwrite
once per turn", then it is only referring to the use of that Effect on that
Relic; Niffer is still free to use hers. Additionally, if you removed your
Quill from play the same turn after using Overwrite and played it again, the
'new' Quill would also be able to use its Overwrite.

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Tom (nuksummer@...) writes:

6. Does Flameplate cancel the original damage source and introduce it's
own, or does it merely redirect the damage, in which case the damage
wouldn't be originating from "an opposing card"?

RT - Flameplate Armor does not change the source of the removal with the
Effect "Good Offense"; this means that the opponent will not be able to use
their own effects that occur "when an opposing card" removes energy from them
(though all effects triggered by them removing energy in the situation still
apply).

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NON-LEGAL LIMITED CARDS

The following list of cards is provided as a reference to cite
current, non-legal promotional cards, and their expected legal date:

Monsoon Hyren: March 1st, 2003
Power of the Creators: No date currently planned.
Tony at a Con: No date currently planned.
Dan (including alternate artwork): No date currently planned.
Ludi: No date currently planned.

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1. Do not answer rules questions on the list, even if they are not
preceded by a [RULES] note.
2. Old rules digests may be found in the Files section of the
listserv:
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Please check previous digests before asking a question to be certain
it has not been answered before.
3. Include [RULES] in the subject of all rules posts, otherwise the
rules team may miss the question for the digest.
4. We must stress again the first rule; those who continually violate
this will be in danger of moderation.


















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