So in other words because R&D can't think outside the box they
screwed up the higher level druid wildshape abilities. That's just
plain ridiculous. And holding out hope for 4th to help is silly, a
druid in 4th will look as little like a druid as the
fighter/cleric/wizard/rogue do. (Oh please lets not make this a 3rd vs
4th discussion.) I'm curious is there a p-class that my PC can
change to that continues my spell casting and increasing my animal
companion but drops the wildshape increases, since that seems to be
completely nerf!

Pete


> > Not sure what you mean with the drowning and all... If a druid from
> an aquatic species (e.g., the aventi from Stormwrack) wildshapes into
> a dolphin/porpoise, that character retains the aquatic subtype per the
> Alternate Form ability. And if a non-aquatic race wildshapes into an
> aquatic creature (e.g. a shark), it gains the (aquatic) subtype,
> allowing it to breath underwater...
> >
>
>
> as he shapes into an air breathing creature (porpoise) with LUNGS and
> remains his aquatic subtype dependent on GILLS he will drown, as the
> type does NOT change to non-aquatic.
>
> for non-aquatics there is the specific exception for changing into an
> aquatic creature but the R&D did not include this exception for
> aquatics . . . . .
>
> ok, if you see a porpoise still being able to use his lungs as gills,
> then imagine an aquatic wildshaping into a wolf . . . . . no change in
> subtype ===> exitus!
>
> ciao
>
> martin m.
>