APL gives a reasonable idea about what combat capabilities we can expect from a party. But what about their non-combat capabilities? What should we expect? We...
... <snip> ... At 300gp for a Potion of Invisibility, I wouldn't expect this until after the 2nd or 3rd AR - especially since higher priorities for most even...
Wow!!! If that's what authors are expecting from all adventuring parties, no WONDER us "average joes" are dropping like flies. If EVERY mod required that we...
... I expect players to play their PCs in the personas described. I expect them to know the rules that govern their PCs' capabilities. I expect them to have...
This is a slight spin-off of Ken's topic. As a DM and an author, I'm not going to prep for PC's to have two potions of Gaseous Form to sneak in and sneak out...
As a player, I tell you that you expect too much. Nice list, but after my first AR I might buy a potion of CLW, but the rest is BULL. Nice to have, definitely,...
Frankly I think Ken is going a bit overboard on the consumables expected. I break it down more by roles. I expect a person with a significant melee attack to...
Haste in round 1 as an expectation? Yeah right. I'm lucky to have any arcane in the party more often than 50% of the time, and even my cohort bard (who...
... yea, i get the same feeling, AND THERE ARE ADVENTURES WHERE you get out of with NEGATIVE gp (summing up what you have spent on consumables etc. versus the...
... This is a matter of priorities, and I think character and party survival, enabled by a Potion of Inivis for everyone, is way more important than a +1 bonus...
... This is what I expect from average joes. There's nothing in here that requires a really special character or any cheese. My expectations are really that a...
... This is way over the top. The cheap stuff, sure, I agree. I spend as much as anyone on consumables. But, I think that some of your expectations are a...
... That may be. As I've travelled to other regions, I certainly have seen some big differences in teamwork, overall party capability and preparedness. But I...
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I think PCs are expected to win Core Specials, but they are just more challenging and so it may take more (than usual) to win. This includes expending big...
Well, the problem at APL 4 is that you don't HAVE all those consumables. We DID spend a lot of what we DID have, though. It just wasn't nearly enough. Marcia...
... I've seen that attitude. Mine is similar but different. It is "Be effective in your role first", party survival is second, personal survival is third,...
Of course, not. 4,000 gp would be the equivalent expenditure at APL4. Did you go out and collectively spend 4,000 gp on consumables prior to the adventure?...
... I don't think authors need to attempt to handle all out of the box thinking by PCs. Anyone that DMs a home campaign I'm sure can tell you that the...
... How common do you find access to scrolls of restoration are? I've only seen it once myself (as well as seeing a special potion once as well). It is a good...
I agree with the idea that PCs should not simply be hoarding all its money for permamnent items. I think its best if PCs concentrate on consumables till at...
I guess you never actually play in mods at low levels anymore. There are many things you need to buy and gold is scarce. It isn't a problem in home games but...
A very detailed list. I think you overestimate the financial resources of characters, but I agree with a lot of it. But you seem to have quickly deviated...
... This might be why I have such a disconnect in the power level in LG. My expectations are nowhere near those. Most of my characters do not meet even a...
Ken's list is a good list of things to consider when going up in level. It reflects his own style of gaming, and a fairly generous level of access that I...
Spoiler . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . We had a fairly easy time of it, at APL 2. We had (from memory) a barbarian/martial 2, a monk/cleric 4, a...
... Either your judges are extremely bloodthirsty or your definition of combat effective doesn't match mine. Or maybe you consistently play up. I've played...
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