From: "Eagle" <jakedragonlives@...>

> Listen,please do not delete this group...keep it alive and well,it
> would be a shame for another centaur group to die..

This is not another centaur group, this is a group for people who have
centaur characters in the Living Greyhawk game, specifically. I would hazard
an educated guess that very few have a centaur as their main character,
either.

   --Penn

I think it's best not to dwell on exactly what type of "one-on-one
roleplaying" Eagle is searching for.

-Matt

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Timlagor <timlagor@...> wrote:

>   Do you actually know what LG is "Eagle"?
>
>
> --- On Tue, 19/8/08, Eagle
<jakedragonlives@...<jakedragonlives%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
> From: Eagle <jakedragonlives@... <jakedragonlives%40yahoo.com>>
> Subject: [LGCentaur] Re: Role Playing
> To: LGCentaur@yahoogroups.com <LGCentaur%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Tuesday, 19 August, 2008, 8:12 AM
>
> Listen,please do not delete this group...keep it alive and well,it
>
> would be a shame for another centaur group to die..
>
> --- In LGCentaur@yahoogrou ps.com, Marcia Schoonover <barbarjojo@ ...>
>
> wrote:
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> > This group hasn't been very active for awhile. We had a lot of
>
> activity when we first got to play our centaur characters figuring
>
> out what we could or should do to make effective centaurs. Since LG
>
> is ending this year, most "support" type yahoo groups are going away.
>
> I'll be moderating the group until the end of the year, then put the
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> group in non-posting status so people can read the message archives.
>
> Eventually, I'll delete the group.
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> > Marcia
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> > --- On Mon, 8/18/08, Eagle <jakedragonlives@ ...> wrote:
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> > From: Eagle <jakedragonlives@ ...>
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> > Subject: [LGCentaur] Role Playing
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> > To: LGCentaur@yahoogrou ps.com
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> > Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 1:35 PM
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> > Does anyone role play on here,or just do stuff for a game thats not
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> > even around?
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Do you actually know what LG is "Eagle"?

--- On Tue, 19/8/08, Eagle <jakedragonlives@...> wrote:
From: Eagle <jakedragonlives@...>
Subject: [LGCentaur] Re: Role Playing
To: LGCentaur@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 19 August, 2008, 8:12 AM











             Listen,please do not delete this group...keep it alive and well,it

would be a shame for another centaur group to die..



--- In LGCentaur@yahoogrou ps.com, Marcia Schoonover <barbarjojo@ ...>

wrote:

>

> This group hasn't been very active for awhile. We had a lot of

activity when we first got to play our centaur characters figuring

out what we could or should do to make effective centaurs. Since LG

is ending this year, most "support" type yahoo groups are going away.

I'll be moderating the group until the end of the year, then put the

group in non-posting status so people can read the message archives.

Eventually, I'll delete the group.

>

> Marcia

>

>

> --- On Mon, 8/18/08, Eagle <jakedragonlives@ ...> wrote:

>

> From: Eagle <jakedragonlives@ ...>

> Subject: [LGCentaur] Role Playing

> To: LGCentaur@yahoogrou ps.com

> Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 1:35 PM

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> Does anyone role play on here,or just do stuff for a game thats not

> even around?

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Listen,please do not delete this group...keep it alive and well,it
would be a shame for another centaur group to die..

--- In LGCentaur@yahoogroups.com, Marcia Schoonover <barbarjojo@...>
wrote:
>
> This group hasn't been very active for awhile. We had a lot of
activity when we first got to play our centaur characters figuring
out what we could or should do to make effective centaurs. Since LG
is ending this year, most "support" type yahoo groups are going away.
I'll be moderating the group until the end of the year, then put the
group in non-posting status so people can read the message archives.
Eventually, I'll delete the group.
>
> Marcia
>
>
> --- On Mon, 8/18/08, Eagle <jakedragonlives@...> wrote:
>
> From: Eagle <jakedragonlives@...>
> Subject: [LGCentaur] Role Playing
> To: LGCentaur@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 1:35 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Does anyone role play on here,or just do stuff for a game thats not
> even around?
>

This group hasn't been very active for awhile. We had a lot of activity when we
first got to play our centaur characters figuring out what we could or should do
to make effective centaurs. Since LG is ending this year, most "support" type
yahoo groups are going away. I'll be moderating the group until the end of the
year, then put the group in non-posting status so people can read the message
archives. Eventually, I'll delete the group.

Marcia


--- On Mon, 8/18/08, Eagle <jakedragonlives@...> wrote:

From: Eagle <jakedragonlives@...>
Subject: [LGCentaur] Role Playing
To: LGCentaur@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 1:35 PM






Does anyone role play on here,or just do stuff for a game thats not
even around?

I mean like one-on-one role playing cause I'm looking for new friends
to rp with and...its been no one for the past 2 months.

From: "Eagle" <jakedragonlives@...>

> Does anyone role play on here,or just do stuff for a game thats not
> even around?

The Living Greyhawk campaign is still quite playable for the rest of this
year, although new adventures have stopped coming out. I'm still hoping to
play a few more adventures with my Centaur, to finish out his story.
I'm not aware of people roleplaying on this email list, other than as an
aside.

   --Penn

Does anyone role play on here,or just do stuff for a game thats not
even around?

From: "Ray ." <koalaking@...>
>
> Thanks,
>
> I double checked the PHB, and you don't _HAVE_ to make a compose bow a
> masterwork weapon.
> I'm figuring that even without magic or masterwork, having a standoff
> weapon with +7 damage will be usefull.  Probably worth the 900gp, but I
> might wait an AR or two.

I figure that once I'm laying out that kind of cash I might as well make it
MW, so it can be enchanted later. On the other hand, if you travel with
people with greater magic weapon commonly, it might not be needed.

   --Penn

For 300gp it would be silly not to make it MW with the potential for magic later
(at APL12-14 even 2kgp isn't much).




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Thanks,

I double checked the PHB, and you don't _HAVE_ to make a compose bow a
masterwork weapon.
I'm figuring that even without magic or masterwork, having a standoff weapon
with +7 damage will be usefull.  Probably worth the 900gp, but I might wait an
AR or two.



To: LGCentaur@...: seule@...: Thu, 10 Jul 2008
23:23:19 -0400Subject: Re: [LGCentaur] composite strength bow:how powerfull as
open access?




From: "raygun1911" <koalaking@...>> what is the most powerfull strength
bonus a composite bow can have> without special access?> Can I just choose to
buy a +7 stength compise longbow, or do I need> access?The answer is 'how much
can you afford?' There's no longer any restriction on this. I'm seriously
considering getting a +12 for my Centaur while raging, but the cost would be 200
(base price doubled for size), +300 for Masterwork, +1200 for the strength. 1700
gp before enchanting is a fair chunk of change.--Penn, player of Skizzix





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From: "raygun1911" <koalaking@...>
> what is the most powerfull strength bonus a composite bow can have
> without special access?
> Can I just choose to buy a +7 stength compise longbow, or do I need
> access?

The answer is 'how much can you afford?' There's no longer any restriction
on this. I'm seriously considering getting a +12 for my Centaur while
raging, but the cost would be 200 (base price doubled for size), +300 for
Masterwork, +1200 for the strength. 1700 gp before enchanting is a fair
chunk of change.

   --Penn, player of Skizzix

what is the most powerfull strength bonus a composite bow can have
without special access?
Can I just choose to buy a +7 stength compise longbow, or do I need
access?

My centaur has been it to tenth level (Ranger 4) by playing in many of
the adaptables.  I finally got him to seventh level (Ranger1) and got
a group together to play Red Hand of Doom.  Our group of six included
three centaurs, including mine, plus I believe it was an Asherati, a
Dwarf, and an elf.  We bought and used a lot of fly potions during the
adventure.  We survived the advance and my centaur made it to tenth
level.  Am trying to find some APL 10 adventures now to try to gain
more experience.  We played Red Hand over Memorial Day weekend.  We
actually started Friday morning, played all day Friday and Saturday,
and finished on Sunday afternoon.  Note that our DM gave us a bunch of
repetitive encounters that were basically identical.  He ran us
through one or two to see how well we handled it, then conceded the
rest after we romped through them.  We mainly played the "important"
or higher ECL type encounters.  In the end we were victorious.  Three
high strength centaurs can dish out a lot of damage!  Two were fighter
types and one was an archer specialist.  Melee attacks did 3d6+10 or
so per hit, while  the archer was doing 2d6+7 per hit.  Haste and
rapid shot added up to four attacks per turn with the possibility of
doing 8d6+28 damage a turn.

The adaptables seem to be a good way to quick level up a character.
If you haven't played many of them, find a group and judge and run
your centaur through them.  Unfortunately, I had already run a 9th
level character through most of the higher level adaptables before my
centaur got high enough to play them.

Tom Wagner

My centaur stalled in level 1 due to the fact that my schedule kept me from
making events. I had hoped to take him Wizard. *grins*

-Lou

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Marcia Schoonover <barbarjojo@...>
wrote:

>   I have the same piece of cheese, but was unclear if I could use it for
> my centaur, so it's still sitting on my bookshelf waiting for a use. I
> haven't played the centaur in ages and may not before the end of the
> campaign, anyway, so it's sort of a moot point.
>
> Marcia
>
> --- Kenneth McRowe <kmcrowe@... <kmcrowe%40earthlink.net>>
> wrote:
>
> > Its a piece of cheese I was thrown. I checked to make sure it was
> > legal with multiple triad before using it. It's the +3 mithral
> > breastplate from Undermountain, that you can put "on any character
> > over 8th level" for free. It got around the x4 for the cost of
> > mithral stupidity they leveraged on Centaurs. I was resigned to no
> > mithral for him until that came along. So it was very cost
> > effective.... if unfair to every person who never got a chance to
> > play Undermountain...
>
>
>


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Er, the advice was to pay no attention to variant costs for things other
than weapons and armor. You definitely have to pay attention to those costs,
as they can really add up quickly.
Costs for other things aren't specified. Clothing I apply the same modifiers
as for armor, things that are wielded I do like weapons, and most things
don't change.

   --Penn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean" <chin_god@...>
To: <LGCentaur@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [LGCentaur] Cost and weight for large items


Yeah if you are a warrior type of a centaur who is armored up in anything
but full plate i'd just deduct about 400 gold (that is the average assuming
multiple weapons and at least a breast plate). If you are a light armor
person with say like leather i'd take off 150.


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From: Timlagor <timlagor@...>
To: LGCentaur@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 3:31:07 AM
Subject: Re: [LGCentaur] Cost and weight for large items


I don't think it changes for most fo those things. In practice the cost for
anything but special materials is pretty much irrelevant anyway so I
wouldn't worry too much.

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> How does the cost and weight for adventuring gear go up when
> we become large?
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> The weapons and sheilds, I understand, but I can't find
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Yeah if you are a warrior type of a centaur who is armored up in anything but
full plate i'd just deduct about 400 gold (that is the average assuming multiple
weapons and at least a breast plate). If you are a light armor person with say
like leather i'd take off 150.


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From: Timlagor <timlagor@...>
To: LGCentaur@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 3:31:07 AM
Subject: Re: [LGCentaur] Cost and weight for large items


I don't think it changes for most fo those things. In practice the cost for
anything but special materials is pretty much irrelevant anyway so I wouldn't
worry too much.

--- On Sat, 14/6/08, Ray . <koalaking@hotmail. com> wrote:
> How does the cost and weight for adventuring gear go up when
> we become large?
>
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> anything talking about stuff like heat suit, saddle bags,
> tents etc.
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I don't think it changes for most fo those things. In practice the cost for
anything but special materials is pretty much irrelevant anyway so I wouldn't
worry too much.

--- On Sat, 14/6/08, Ray . <koalaking@...> wrote:
> How does the cost and weight for adventuring gear go up when
> we become large?
>
> The weapons and sheilds, I understand, but I can't find
> anything talking about stuff like heat suit, saddle bags,
> tents etc.
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I have the same piece of cheese, but was unclear if I could use it for
my centaur, so it's still sitting on my bookshelf waiting for a use. I
haven't played the centaur in ages and may not before the end of the
campaign, anyway, so it's sort of a moot point.

Marcia


--- Kenneth  McRowe <kmcrowe@...> wrote:

> Its a piece of cheese I was thrown.  I checked to make sure it was
> legal with multiple triad before using it.  It's the +3 mithral
> breastplate from Undermountain, that you can put "on any character
> over 8th level" for free.  It got around the x4 for the cost of
> mithral stupidity they leveraged on Centaurs.  I was resigned to no
> mithral for him until that came along.  So it was very cost
> effective.... if unfair to every person who never got a chance to
> play Undermountain...

Belt +4. Also have +2 items for Dex and Con. That's most of my cash right
there.  :)

   --Penn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray ." <koalaking@...>

is the 30 strength all natural, or is that with a magic item?

Ray

To: LGCentaur@...: seule@...: Tue, 10 Jun 2008
14:31:20 -0400Subject: Re: [LGCentaur] Digest Number 222

So far, Skizzix is Centaur 6/Barbarian 1 (movement and rage)/Ranger 1
(Track)/Fighter 1 (Tunnel Fighting). Planning on going Barbarian/Fighter
mostly.Currently sitting at Str 30/Dex 20/Con 20 before Raging, with a Great
Falchion for the hefty beats. Speed 60 and Horseshoes of a Zephyr make for
some surprising movement, as well as less fear of small boats. Power Attack
and Armbands of Might are my friends, too.When raging with power attack
(which is common) I attack at +12/+7 for 3d6+35/18-20 and hoof at +6/+6 for
1d6+13, before any outside buffs.Now I just have to finish raising the cash
for the Large Adamantine Keen Great Falchion I got access to...--Penn

is the 30 strength all natural, or is that with a magic item?

Ray


To: LGCentaur@...: seule@...: Tue, 10 Jun 2008
14:31:20 -0400Subject: Re: [LGCentaur] Digest Number 222




So far, Skizzix is Centaur 6/Barbarian 1 (movement and rage)/Ranger 1
(Track)/Fighter 1 (Tunnel Fighting). Planning on going Barbarian/Fighter
mostly.Currently sitting at Str 30/Dex 20/Con 20 before Raging, with a Great
Falchion for the hefty beats. Speed 60 and Horseshoes of a Zephyr make for some
surprising movement, as well as less fear of small boats. Power Attack and
Armbands of Might are my friends, too.When raging with power attack (which is
common) I attack at +12/+7 for 3d6+35/18-20 and hoof at +6/+6 for 1d6+13, before
any outside buffs.Now I just have to finish raising the cash for the Large
Adamantine Keen Great Falchion I got access to...--Penn






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Its a piece of cheese I was thrown.  I checked to make sure it was legal with
multiple triad before using it.  It's the +3 mithral breastplate from
Undermountain, that you can put "on any character over 8th level" for free.  It
got around the x4 for the cost of mithral stupidity they leveraged on Centaurs. 
I was resigned to no mithral for him until that came along.  So it was very cost
effective.... if unfair to every person who never got a chance to play
Undermountain...

-----Original Message-----
>From: Marcia Schoonover <barbarjojo@...>
>Sent: Jun 10, 2008 2:34 PM
>To: LGCentaur@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [LGCentaur] Digest Number 222
>
>How did you afford that much mithral? I was quoted a price of something
>absurd like 30k for centaur sized mithral.
>
>Marcia
>
>
>--- Kenneth  McRowe <kmcrowe@...> wrote:
>
>> Centaur6/fighter1/barbarian2/exotic weaponmaster 1 spiked chain
>> fighter with a +1 holy spiked chain and an animated shield.  With the
>> horseshoes of speed he moves 90 and has a +3 mithral breastplate.
>> With the natural armor he has a great AC for a raging barbarian type,
>> and he does decent damage (though not the 50+ each hit I've seen some
>> centaurs do).  Regretfully, he's become a tertiary character with the
>> end of the campaign, behind my sorcerer 11 and my Greyhawk Ruins
>> Character, so I don't think he's going any further.

Any centaur with a +3 mithral breatplate got it from a Dwarf in Undermountain  
..it's not clear whether it's LG-Legal for a centaur but a number of people have
certainly done it and no one seems to have objected.
[it didn't even occur to me that that was usable by my Centaur]

Drexal is in the database now. He's an ex-monk Great Scimitar Master -just for
Improved Crit and Extra Rage at 11th level.

I'm not entirely sure where I'm going 12+ (shoudl hit 12th at least) but quite
possibly
12 fighter2 tunnel Fighting
13 Fighter3
14 Fighter4 Retrain TF-> Dodge, Mobility, Elusive target
15 ???

Ranger 2 is also pretty tempting to make my ranged threat really nasty: I don't
need them close-in archery feats but an extra shot for 2d6+10 when the enemy are
over 120' away (or flying or just not very nice to melee) would be very nice and
the FE+Wands+Track is hardly useless. (oh and another +3 on my Evasion rolls!)


--- On Tue, 10/6/08, Marcia Schoonover <barbarjojo@...> wrote:
How did you afford that much mithral? I was quoted a price of something
absurd like 30k for centaur sized mithral.

Marcia

--- Kenneth McRowe <kmcrowe@earthlink. net> wrote:

> Centaur6/fighter1/ barbarian2/ exotic weaponmaster 1 spiked chain
> fighter with a +1 holy spiked chain and an animated shield. With the
> horseshoes of speed he moves 90 and has a +3 mithral breastplate.
> With the natural armor he has a great AC for a raging barbarian type,
> and he does decent damage (though not the 50+ each hit I've seen some
> centaurs do). Regretfully, he's become a tertiary character with the
> end of the campaign, behind my sorcerer 11 and my Greyhawk Ruins
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Marcia Schoonover" <barbarjojo@...>

> How did you afford that much mithral? I was quoted a price of something
> absurd like 30k for centaur sized mithral.

For large nonhumanoid armor you multiply the base price (including material
but not masterwork) by 4.
Effectively, for Mithral and Adamantine, you multiply by 4 then subtract 450
gp.
Medium armor (like a breastplate) of Mithral will thus cost 3,550gp extra
for light, 15,550gp extra for medium, and heavy will cost 35,550gp extra.
Adamantine will cost more, 19,550gp for light, 39,550gp for medium and
59,550gp for heavy.
That's on top of the quadruple cost of the base armor, and any enhancements.
My Centaur has a Mithral Chain Shirt, it's the most cost effective I
believe.

   --Penn

How did you afford that much mithral? I was quoted a price of something
absurd like 30k for centaur sized mithral.

Marcia


--- Kenneth  McRowe <kmcrowe@...> wrote:

> Centaur6/fighter1/barbarian2/exotic weaponmaster 1 spiked chain
> fighter with a +1 holy spiked chain and an animated shield.  With the
> horseshoes of speed he moves 90 and has a +3 mithral breastplate.
> With the natural armor he has a great AC for a raging barbarian type,
> and he does decent damage (though not the 50+ each hit I've seen some
> centaurs do).  Regretfully, he's become a tertiary character with the
> end of the campaign, behind my sorcerer 11 and my Greyhawk Ruins
> Character, so I don't think he's going any further.

So far, Skizzix is Centaur 6/Barbarian 1 (movement and rage)/Ranger 1
(Track)/Fighter 1 (Tunnel Fighting). Planning on going Barbarian/Fighter
mostly.
Currently sitting at Str 30/Dex 20/Con 20 before Raging, with a Great
Falchion for the hefty beats. Speed 60 and Horseshoes of a Zephyr make for
some surprising movement, as well as less fear of small boats. Power Attack
and Armbands of Might are my friends, too.
When raging with power attack (which is common) I attack at +12/+7 for
3d6+35/18-20 and hoof at +6/+6 for 1d6+13, before any outside buffs.
Now I just have to finish raising the cash for the Large Adamantine Keen
Great Falchion I got access to...

   --Penn

Centaur6/fighter1/barbarian2/exotic weaponmaster 1 spiked chain fighter with a
+1 holy spiked chain and an animated shield.  With the horseshoes of speed he
moves 90 and has a +3 mithral breastplate.  With the natural armor he has a
great AC for a raging barbarian type, and he does decent damage (though not the
50+ each hit I've seen some centaurs do).  Regretfully, he's become a tertiary
character with the end of the campaign, behind my sorcerer 11 and my Greyhawk
Ruins Character, so I don't think he's going any further.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Erik Johannesson <erikjohannesson@...>
>Sent: Jun 10, 2008 12:51 PM
>To: LGCentaur@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [LGCentaur] Digest Number 222
>
>My Centaur Hurzy is stuck at lvl 6 and won't be seeing much more action I'm
>afraid... :( Was a blast to go through the Sulm Empire and some regionals,
>but with us playin greyhawk ruins he just has to take a back seat. :)
>
>Good luck to all you mutts out there!
>
>/Erik
>
>
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My Centaur Hurzy is stuck at lvl 6 and won't be seeing much more action I'm
afraid... :( Was a blast to go through the Sulm Empire and some regionals,
but with us playin greyhawk ruins he just has to take a back seat. :)

Good luck to all you mutts out there!

/Erik


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