As an aside, there is evidence that John Howard (who married Mowbrays daughter
and eventually took the title when granted it by Richard III) was involved in a
fist fight with one of the Pastons.

Howard was a loyal retainer of Mowbray and it's likelt it was howard who led
Mowbray's delayed forces onto the battlefield at Towton, turning the tide at a
critical point and resulting in the massive Yorkist victory. Mowbray was an ill
man for a long time, and Howard deputized for him a lot. In this role he met
John Tiptoft and hence the Worcester Household's link with the Howards.

Mowbray and the Howards were firmly Yorkist throughout the Wars.

--- In LALS@yahoogroups.com, dowenspeedway@... wrote:
>
> The Pastons were on the losing side at Barnet, fighting for Henry VI. Yes,
> they were sometimes retainers of the Duke of Norfolk, but not in this
> instance. However, Norfolk (Mowbray) himself was not at Barnet. The Yorkist
> commanders were Edward IV, Richard Duke of Gloucester and George Duke of
> Clarence. However, John and Thomas Howard did fight alongside Edward, but the
> Howards were not made Dukes of Norfolk until the reign of Richard III in
1483.
>
> Keith
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