Harold,

The year is now halfway over - is there any word when we will do an
update for this year?

Thanks
Craig Scott

I'll add mine:

1) Major Religions: I think that IC efforts by the player base to
expand the worship of Pelor should be recognized by adding it to the
list of major reglions. If Tritherion is on the list, lord knows Pelor
should be. Speaking of which, is there some sort of underground cult
of Tritherion worshippers in Keoland? If not, why is a banned diety
listed in the "Major Religions" segment?

Trithereon is only banned in Niole Dra for a hundred years, I thought. Stinkin' yeoman anarchists that they are.

Brian

--- In Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com, "Duncan McNeill-Burton"
<duncanmb@...> wrote:
>
> A few small nitpicks.

I'll add mine:

1) Major Religions: I think that IC efforts by the player base to
expand the worship of Pelor should be recognized by adding it to the
list of major reglions. If Tritherion is on the list, lord knows Pelor
should be. Speaking of which, is there some sort of underground cult
of Tritherion worshippers in Keoland? If not, why is a banned diety
listed in the "Major Religions" segment?

2) Check with Conforti to verify whether Reynard is the Great Druid,
or the Grand Druid. (The latter is used in the document.) I've heard
both used interchangably so much that I don't know which one's right
any more. I know what she was referred to in the 1E adventure "Isle of
the Ape" but I make no assumptions any more about what's canon and
what's not. Also, Reynard should not be notes as being ill unless
Charles misstated the critical event results of KEO6-03 to me.

3) Current Situation: Hannah's title has always been Countess. She
should not be called "Dame" as the latter is only a title of least
nobility (the feminine equivalent of knight) and, just as importantly,
should be kept as Countess for purposes of consistency.

4) Current Situation: Thank God that the "Earl Warren" is on death's
door, as whomever named him needs a slap in the head:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Warren

5) Current Situation: "Viscount of Nume Eor, Richart Jorgos, has taken
a staggering blow in the Court of the Land, with the proclamations he
has made in late CY 595." You might want to elaborate on this for
people that didn't play "Madness of King Jorgos."

6) You might want to make a note that we departed from the LGG by
changing "Keolandish" to "Keoish," or alternatively note that the
terms are used interchangably.

7) Classes: Why are Favored Souls assumed to be religious zealots if
clerics are not? I'd suggest that this be changed to note that Favored
Souls are treated the same as clerics by the Keoish populace who can't
(and don't want to) tell the difference.

8) The mention that paladins "don't normally worship a diety" seems
arbitrary and more importantly in contradiction to what we see PC
paladins playing at tables. IMO the region should always reflect what
the players are doing.

9) Keoland Map Key: Hannah's title is omitted; this may be deliberate,
of course, but if so it should be noted (maybe "former Countess").
Duncan's correct that Averyn ceded all claim to Linth; my
understanding from the last (only) narrative released by the current
Triad is that it was being rules in trust by King Kimbertos.

10) Keoland Map Key: "Keoland" is spelled incorrectly under #3
(basically, run a spell check on the document, there's a number of typos).

11) Keoland Map Key: #16, this is incorrect; the Barony of Sayre is
being ruled by a council of baronets until such time as the Triad
chooses a new Baron (as per the AR for "Tale of Two Lions"). Jessa's
orphaned children are being raised by Markos Skotti and his wife, if
anyone cares.

Christian Alipounarian

It's been about a month.  Any further updates/rumors/etc?

Thanks,

Eric Kiefer

--- In Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com, "Harold Austin"
<HaroldRAustin@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Craig (and all those interested),
>    The Meta-Org Guidelines have gone through several revisions as
the
> Triad members have voiced concern about wording of the document.
> This is to ensure the most fun from reading the document.
>
> It'll probably be a little while longer.
>
> Sorry for the delay,
>   Harold
>
> --- In Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com, "Craig" <ryuken100@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com, "Harold Austin"
> > <HaroldRAustin@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Everybody,
> > >    I know you have been waiting to hear about this and I
> apologize for
> > > the delay.  The Triad and Circle are discussing access to the
> Meta-
> > > Orgs, their should be an updated list shortly, which I can then
> share
> > > and we'll work from there.
> > >
> > > I apologize for the delay,
> > >   Thanks,
> > >     Harold
> > >
> > Harold,
> >
> > Have the cicle decided what to do?  Can you give the POCs some
> insight
> > what we need to be doing, looking at, etc?  Or do you have a time
> > frame when that will be?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Craig Scott
> >
>

And on a more constructive note, any chance we could see the Voltron
Force of factions added?

-Duncan

--- In Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com, "Duncan McNeill-Burton"
<duncanmb@...> wrote:
>
> A few small nitpicks.  The Countess of Flen is Oeridian, not Suel.
> Didn't Averyn relinquish his claim on Linth, leaving the rule of said
> wasteland in the hands of the king until a new lord is named?  With
> the end of 596, the Knights of the Watch are no longer forgoing their
> right to bear arms.
>
> -Duncan
>
> --- In Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com,
> Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > This email message is a notification to let you know that
> > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the
Keoland-Metaorg-Book
> > group.
> >
> >   File        : /Kingdom of Keoland Guidebook v1-2.doc
> >   Uploaded by : haustin97 <HaroldRAustin@>
> >   Description : Guidebook - Unfinished copy
> >
> > You can access this file at the URL:
> >
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Keoland-Metaorg-Book/files/Kingdom%20of%20Keoland%\
20Guidebook%20v1-2.doc
>
> >
> > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
> > http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > haustin97 <HaroldRAustin@>
> >
>

A few small nitpicks.  The Countess of Flen is Oeridian, not Suel.
Didn't Averyn relinquish his claim on Linth, leaving the rule of said
wasteland in the hands of the king until a new lord is named?  With
the end of 596, the Knights of the Watch are no longer forgoing their
right to bear arms.

-Duncan

--- In Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com,
Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> This email message is a notification to let you know that
> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the Keoland-Metaorg-Book
> group.
>
>   File        : /Kingdom of Keoland Guidebook v1-2.doc
>   Uploaded by : haustin97 <HaroldRAustin@...>
>   Description : Guidebook - Unfinished copy
>
> You can access this file at the URL:
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Keoland-Metaorg-Book/files/Kingdom%20of%20Keoland%\
20Guidebook%20v1-2.doc

>
> To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
> http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files
>
> Regards,
>
> haustin97 <HaroldRAustin@...>
>

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the Keoland-Metaorg-Book
group.

   File        : /Kingdom of Keoland Guidebook v1-2.doc
   Uploaded by : haustin97 <HaroldRAustin@...>
   Description : Guidebook - Unfinished copy

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Keoland-Metaorg-Book/files/Kingdom%20of%20Keoland%\
20Guidebook%20v1-2.doc

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

haustin97 <HaroldRAustin@...>

My bad,
    I cleaned up the files, I'll upload it when I find it again
(tomorrow), since I'm on a computer without all my triad stuff.

Thanks,
    Harold

I hadn't checked the boards in a while, went to download this, and
wasn't able to find it in the Files section.

Thanks,

Christian Alipounarian

Hi Craig (and all those interested),
    The Meta-Org Guidelines have gone through several revisions as the
Triad members have voiced concern about wording of the document.
This is to ensure the most fun from reading the document.

It'll probably be a little while longer.

Sorry for the delay,
   Harold

--- In Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com, "Craig" <ryuken100@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com, "Harold Austin"
> <HaroldRAustin@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Everybody,
> >    I know you have been waiting to hear about this and I
apologize for
> > the delay.  The Triad and Circle are discussing access to the
Meta-
> > Orgs, their should be an updated list shortly, which I can then
share
> > and we'll work from there.
> >
> > I apologize for the delay,
> >   Thanks,
> >     Harold
> >
> Harold,
>
> Have the cicle decided what to do?  Can you give the POCs some
insight
> what we need to be doing, looking at, etc?  Or do you have a time
> frame when that will be?
>
> Thanks
>
> Craig Scott
>

--- In Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com, "Harold Austin"
<HaroldRAustin@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Everybody,
>    I know you have been waiting to hear about this and I apologize for
> the delay.  The Triad and Circle are discussing access to the Meta-
> Orgs, their should be an updated list shortly, which I can then share
> and we'll work from there.
>
> I apologize for the delay,
>   Thanks,
>     Harold
>
Harold,

Have the cicle decided what to do?  Can you give the POCs some insight
what we need to be doing, looking at, etc?  Or do you have a time
frame when that will be?

Thanks

Craig Scott

All and Harold,

There are a few areas that could benefit from maps this year (Haven, New
Silverdeep, Curget, etc), would you want these done as well as a larger map
of Keoland?

Also we have a few shields that still need to be converted to the current
style we've had for the last two revisions. I would like to be available to
the POCs to help get them done to their satisfactions.

Also, I have done a few report forms for a couple of meta-orgs (Dreadwalkers
and Heralds), would other Meta-orgs wish to have some made up as well?

thanks,
Larry Tiblis


>From: "Harold Austin" <HaroldRAustin@...>
>Reply-To: Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com
>To: Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Keoland-Metaorg-Book] 597 Meta Org Book update
>Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:31:07 -0000
>
>Hello Everybody,
>    I know you have been waiting to hear about this and I apologize for
>the delay.  The Triad and Circle are discussing access to the Meta-
>Orgs, their should be an updated list shortly, which I can then share
>and we'll work from there.
>
>I apologize for the delay,
>   Thanks,
>     Harold
>

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Hello Everybody,
    I know you have been waiting to hear about this and I apologize for
the delay.  The Triad and Circle are discussing access to the Meta-
Orgs, their should be an updated list shortly, which I can then share
and we'll work from there.

I apologize for the delay,
   Thanks,
     Harold

Also on my mind is some more coats of arms being done. There are still some
missing that need revision. Also I have a map of Keoland and the duchies as
well that I have done.

Thirdly, I did some reporting forms for the Heralds and Dreadwalkers, do the
remaining POCs want reporting forms (that need them of course).

Larry


>From: Craig Scott <ryuken100@...>
>Reply-To: Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com
>To: Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Keoland-Metaorg-Book] Re: 597?
>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:21:50 -0800 (PST)
>
>I would agree.
>
>Harold - when do you want drafts for the new metaorgs
>- so the POCs can have a timeline of the due dates.
>
>Craig Scott
>Shadowdark
>--- Duncan McNeill-Burton <duncanmb@...>
>wrote:
>
> > --- In Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com, "Paul
> > Duggan"
> > <p.duggan@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Are there 597 versions of the metaorg signups?
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> >
> > Given the new LGCS and its' new list of banned
> > spells and feats, I'd
> > imagine the metaorgs will have to be revised again.
> >
> > -Duncan
> >
> >
>

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I would agree.

Harold - when do you want drafts for the new metaorgs
- so the POCs can have a timeline of the due dates.

Craig Scott
Shadowdark
--- Duncan McNeill-Burton <duncanmb@...>
wrote:

> --- In Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com, "Paul
> Duggan"
> <p.duggan@...> wrote:
> >
> > Are there 597 versions of the metaorg signups?
> >
> > Paul
> >
>
> Given the new LGCS and its' new list of banned
> spells and feats, I'd
> imagine the metaorgs will have to be revised again.
>
> -Duncan
>
>

--- In Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Duggan"
<p.duggan@...> wrote:
>
> Are there 597 versions of the metaorg signups?
>
> Paul
>

Given the new LGCS and its' new list of banned spells and feats, I'd
imagine the metaorgs will have to be revised again.

-Duncan

Are there 597 versions of the metaorg signups?

Paul

One additional thing I noticed.  The link for the Religious
Organizations should be updated to:
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/Keoland_Churches/

Also, Religious Organizations are not listed in the table of contents.
Thanks!

Jacob

Hi Grant,
     Thanks for pointing this out, I'll fix it.

Thanks,
    Harold

The KoTW link on page 28 points to the closed KoTWD list.

I don't know if this is intentional.  Someone asked me about it.  I'm
just trying to be helpful.

Grant
POC KoTWD and Military

Fixed this as well.  Thanks for adding the page number.

Thanks,
    Harold

>
> The draft version in the yahoo group is the final draft version.

The Stargazers description (p. 77) still incorrectly lists
the alignment requirement for Tier 2 as Lawful Good,
instead of simply Good. The Meta-Play Record is
correct, however.

Steve
Stargazers PoC

Hi Craig,
      I need to give the other Triad members time to review the final
draft before okaying the book.  I'll touch base with both of them on
Sunday after I polish up the remainder of the book (the Wanted &
Hunted section needs to be updated).

Thanks,
    Harold

Hi Mr. Kiefer :)  (I can spell your name correctly!)
       I made the edits that you suggested.

Thanks,
    Harold


>>>>
Harold,

I've got one edit for the Royal Guilds since it's not been released on
the main list yet. On the Meta-Play Record itself, the old text from
04's version was left on for the '05 version.

If you could replace the paragraph starting with "The Noble Guilds
are..." with the following, it'd be swell.

"The Keoland Royal Guilds membership is made up of various historians,
financiers, alchemists, bakers, butchers, artisans, craftsman, and
performers. The Royal Guilds make sure commodities from basic
necessities (such as wagon wheels and horse shoes) to exquisite
fineries (such as stained glass and spices) are available for
reasonable prices in Keoland. They regulate the various trades to
ensure certain minimum levels of quality are maintained."

And it's minor, but it's still the Keoland Royal Guilds, as Royal seems
to have disappeared off of the descriptive page.

I'll try and have Clan Stonecrows new and (hopefully) improved version
ready by the January updates.

Thanks,

Eric Kiefer

(still playing catch up after the recent family medical problems)

--- In Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com, "Harold Austin"
<HaroldRAustin@...> wrote:
>
>    The draft version in the yahoo group is the final draft version.

The Stargazers description (p. 77) still incorrectly lists
the alignment requirement for Tier 2 as Lawful Good,
instead of simply Good.  The Meta-Play Record is
correct, however.

Steve
Stargazers PoC

--- In Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com, "Harold Austin"
<HaroldRAustin@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Craig,
>    The draft version in the yahoo group is the final draft version.
> If people want to flip through it to see what the Triad is working on,
> that would be great.  Ideally, no more edits will be done until
> January.
>
> Thanks,
>    Harold
>
Harold,

I've got one edit for the Royal Guilds since it's not been released on
the main list yet.  On the Meta-Play Record itself, the old text from
04's version was left on for the '05 version.

If you could replace the paragraph starting with "The Noble Guilds
are..." with the following, it'd be swell.

"The Keoland Royal Guilds membership is made up of various historians,
financiers, alchemists, bakers, butchers, artisans, craftsman, and
performers.  The Royal Guilds make sure commodities from basic
necessities (such as wagon wheels and horse shoes) to exquisite
fineries (such as stained glass and spices) are available for
reasonable prices in Keoland.  They regulate the various trades to
ensure certain minimum levels of quality are maintained."

And it's minor, but it's still the Keoland Royal Guilds, as Royal seems
to have disappeared off of the descriptive page.

I'll try and have Clan Stonecrows new and (hopefully) improved version
ready by the January updates.

Thanks,

Eric Kiefer

(still playing catch up after the recent family medical problems)

Harold,

Thanks for the info.  I was curious, was a general announcement made
from the website or the Keoland yahoo group.  I looked and I could not
see anything.  I know I have had people contact me about when the new
version would be out.  If this is the final version for the year, can
a general/public announcement be made?  It is just a thought.

By the way, it looks great.  Great job on the editing and info from
you and the pother POC's.

Have a good done
Craig



--- In Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com, "Harold Austin"
<HaroldRAustin@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Craig,
>    The draft version in the yahoo group is the final draft version.
> If people want to flip through it to see what the Triad is working on,
> that would be great.  Ideally, no more edits will be done until
> January.
>
> Thanks,
>    Harold
>

Hi Craig,
    The draft version in the yahoo group is the final draft version.
If people want to flip through it to see what the Triad is working on,
that would be great.  Ideally, no more edits will be done until
January.

Thanks,
    Harold

Good morning,

I was curious what the status was on the new metaorg book?  If the
draft in the files section the final version?  Are we waiting on
something more?  If we are waiting, what are we waiting for and how
long till we can release the final version?

If Harold or someone could let me know, I would appreciate it.

Thanks
Craig
Shadowdark poc

*tips his hat*

And a question: If I'm working on revisions for a metaorg, do I send
the revisions to a triad member, or do I post them here for
discussion?  I suspect the former, but I figured I may as well ask.

Jacob
POC Keoland Religious Organizations




--- In Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Tiblis"
<aodhmackay@...> wrote:
>
>
> Printer's Row.
>
> >From: "Grant Bolling" <tbolling2@...>
> >Reply-To: Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com
> >To: Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [Keoland-Metaorg-Book] Re: POC Sound off
> >Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:12:57 -0000
> >
> ><Waves>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Printer's Row.

>From: "Grant Bolling" <tbolling2@...>
>Reply-To: Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com
>To: Keoland-Metaorg-Book@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Keoland-Metaorg-Book] Re: POC Sound off
>Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:12:57 -0000
>
><Waves>
>
>
>
>
>
>