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Hallo Ola:

1. The new version works with the old expansion.

2. As far as I know the expansion is only avail through Sierra Madre Games, as it is getting close to being out of print.

3. There is a new expansion in the works. However, the plan is that it will be sold in two versions: one a full version for those who do not have the current expansion, and the second is an "expansion of the expansion", an update just for those who already have the expansion. This expansion of the expansion will include three new card types, some stickers for the claim disks, some additional charts and rules for a new expanded game economy leading to interstellar flight. I am working hard on a playtest copy. But the point is the expansion and the expansion's expansion do not obsolete those who already have the game. I am not trying to continually have updates to the game that obsolete the old version, unlike some games.

4. I believe the UK version is the latest avail version. I do plan on updating the poster-map periodically, but it will likely be minor stuff (latest photos from space and the like).

5. I don't have enough experience with the poster-map to answer your other questions, perhaps others can answer?

Phil Eklund
Sierra Madre Games
2525 E Prince Road #72, Tucson, AZ 85716
www.SierraMadreGames.com

-----Original Message-----
From: unic (Ola Mikael Hansson) <enhorning@...>
To: highfrontier <highfrontier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Nov 7, 2011 3:24 pm
Subject: [HighFrontier] Expansion matching reprint of base game?

I have recently received my reprint of the High Frontier base game. I
am interested in acquiring the expansion as well, but have a few
queries:

Is the "old" version of the expansion good to use with the new reprint
of the base game?

Is there anywhere in the UK (... or Europe) that sell the expansion?
(Or is ordering from the Sierra Madre Games website the only way to
get it?)

Will there be an updated version of the expansion coming anytime soon?
(I would rather not buy a version that will be outdated in half a
year's time, especially not if paying international shipping and
customs fees due to having to order it from the US.)

...

While I am writing this group anyhow, I might as well ask about the poster map:

Is the version at Zazzle UK (
http://www.zazzle.co.uk/high_frontier_poster_reprint-228261280721618225
) up to date with the reprint of the base game?

Is the 36" x 24" (914mm x 610mm) a good size to get? As our main
gaming table isn't all that big, I would prefer not to go larger...
but if absolutely necessary, I guess it would be possible to
accommodate the next size up (48" x 32" / 1219mm x 813mm), though that
would mean having to put player mats and everything else on top of the
map while playing.

Does anybody have experience with the different materials?
Specifically, I was looking at the "Premium Canvas (Matte)" or the
"Archival Heavyweight Paper (Matte)", and wondering which it would be
better to go for. (Or should one simply stick with the cheaper
alternatives?)

Is there any good reason to wait with buying the poster map? (Again,
I would rather not spend money to get a Canvas poster map only to find
it outdated in a year or so... my game budget is rather limited.)

...

Thanks for your help - looking forward to enjoying the reprint of this
excellent game (I had the old version, but sold it when preordering
the reprint).

/Ola Mikael Hansson

#2932

From: Victor Zaru Barreto Caminha <wykthor@...>
Date: Tue Nov 8, 2011 1:40 pm
Subject: Re: Expansion matching reprint of base game?

victor_caminha

Hey Phil,

I hope Bios Megafauna sales went well. Again, it was a pleasure to play it with you and your wife. Now, regarding the newest expansion, just three words: Must Have it

cheers

Victor ��

2011/11/8 Phil Eklund <phileklund@...>

�Hallo Ola:
This expansion of the expansion will include three new card types, some stickers for the claim disks, some additional charts and rules for a new expanded game economy leading to interstellar flight.�

#2933

From: "peter.haslehurst" <peter.haslehurst@...>
Date: Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:04 pm
Subject: High Frontier on Saturday

peter.hasleh...

I'm very excited - I've invited some gamer friends around on Saturday to play
High Frontier. It will be the first time I get to play the game through to a
conclusion. Last time I introduced it to some folks in a context where we only
had time for about an hour of play.

Anyway, I'm planning to use Phil's little introductory text on the back of the
rulebook as a way into teaching the game.

I'm also thinking about Cosmic Encounter as a relaxing wind-down after HF is
finished - unless everyone wants to go round HF again!

I'll let you all know how it goes.

#2934

From: Phil Eklund <phileklund@...>
Date: Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:24 pm
Subject: Re: High Frontier on Saturday

phileklund

I wish to hear how it goes, Peter!...last weekend I had Rus Belikov (a scientist from NASA Ames) and Chris Peters over for a game of High Frontier.

Unfortunately, I was much too desperate for the ESA services, and gave away valuable trade cards that gave the game to Rus. I also blackened the solar system with failed raygun prospecting attempts.

#2935

From: "labarberrousse" <labarberousse@...>
Date: Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:47 pm
Subject: Re: Bios Megafauna & High Frontier will be at Essen, but delayed a month otherwise

labarberrousse

No problem, Phil!

(Yeah, ok, I know I'm late for this feedback... speaking of which, any news on
the shipping, I've read on another post someone had received his copy?)

Still hoping to be able to play before Christmas! ;)

Thanks!

Sebastien.


--- In HighFrontier@yahoogroups.com, "phil" <phileklund@...> wrote:
>
> Panda Games of China informs me that my 2 new games this year, Bios Megafauna
and High Frontier reprint, have still not shipped from China.  They will ship
the first week in Oct, which will delay the American orders, perhaps as late as
the first week in December.
>
> By expensive air-freighting I will still have limited quantities at the Essen
Fair, and will fill as many pre-orders as possible.  But some pre-orders won't
be filled until December.  I apologise for these delays.
>

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#2936

From: Phil Eklund <phileklund@...>
Date: Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:12 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Bios Megafauna & High Frontier will be at Essen, but delayed a month otherwise

phileklund

Sebastien, You should get your copy in time for Christmas. The US and Canada games are still coming by slow boat, but should be mailed by first week in December. Thanx for your patience.

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#2937

From: David Wessman <dwessman@...>
Date: Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:04 pm
Subject: RE: High Frontier on Saturday

d_e_wessman

This reminds me of a question I wanted to ask about prospecting. What is the rationale for the rule that only one prospecting attempt can be made? Is this primarily a game balancing mechanic? The reason I ask is because it seems to me that terrestrial prospecting has often been characterized by initial failure, but after repeated attempts (sometimes using new methods) success may finally occur.

Did you playtest the game without any restriction on the number of prospecting attempts? I’m curious how that would affect game play.

I have an idea for something in between:

If the initial prospecting attempt fails, you may attempt another on a subsequent turn, but with a negative die roll modifier. Further subsequent attempts would each increase the DRM by one. For example, if your first attempt at prospecting on Minerva failed (hydration value 3), you could try again later but adding one to your die roll (as if the hydration value was 2.) The next attempt would require that you add 2 to your prospecting roll. After three attempts it would no longer be possible to prospect on Minerva, and a black disk would be placed to indicate that.

Note that bodies with a hydration value of 1 can still only be prospected once.

Thoughts?

From: HighFrontier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:HighFrontier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Phil Eklund
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:25 AM
To: HighFrontier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HighFrontier] High Frontier on Saturday

I wish to hear how it goes, Peter!...last weekend I had Rus Belikov (a scientist from NASA Ames) and Chris Peters over for a game of High Frontier.

Unfortunately, I was much too desperate for the ESA services, and gave away valuable trade cards that gave the game to Rus. I also blackened the solar system with failed raygun prospecting attempts.

#2938

From: Phil Eklund <phileklund@...>
Date: Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:33 pm
Subject: Re: High Frontier on Saturday

phileklund

Dave,

You hit the nail on the head when you say "using new methods". This is the typical example on Earth: a site failure using one method becomes wildly successful using another that is a bit more efficient for the situation. Many mines around here are like that, the original prospectors go bust, subsequent ones using better refiners get rich off the rejected tailings. And of course the larger sites or planets have the possibility for different sites or deeper holes, even given a year's time for prospecting. We originally had for the game the capacity to re-prospect using better robonauts...but the logistics to keep track of this were prohibitive. Also problematic was the game's theme of exploration: there are lots of worlds and I wished to encourage exploration of as many sites as possible within the time limits of the game. Having already-explored worlds re-prospected interfered with the game's theme.

Phil Eklund
Sierra Madre Games
2525 E Prince Road #72, Tucson, AZ 85716
www.SierraMadreGames.com

-----Original Message-----
From: David Wessman <dwessman@...>
To: 'HighFrontier@yahoogroups.com' <HighFrontier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Nov 10, 2011 7:04 am
Subject: RE: [HighFrontier] High Frontier on Saturday

Did you playtest the game without any restriction on the number of prospecting attempts? I’m curious how that would affect game play.

I have an idea for something in between:

Note that bodies with a hydration value of 1 can still only be prospected once.

Thoughts?

I wish to hear how it goes, Peter!...last weekend I had Rus Belikov (a scientist from NASA Ames) and Chris Peters over for a game of High Frontier.

Unfortunately, I was much too desperate for the ESA services, and gave away valuable trade cards that gave the game to Rus. I also blackened the solar system with failed raygun prospecting attempts.

#2939

From: "Jeffrey" <jchamberx@...>
Date: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:35 pm
Subject: Re: High Frontier on Saturday

jchamberx

I have considered the following house rule for prospecting.  But I only consider
to use this house rule if I also add house rules that expand the scope and
length of the game so that deep exploration will still be required to remain
competitive.  But in any case my thought was this:

When you fail at a prospect, add a black disk to the site as normal.  In the
future, if you attempt to prospect at a site that has a black disk on it, rather
than use the size of the site as your chance of failure, instead count the
number of disks on the hex, multiply by 2 and subtract that number from the size
of the site to determine the number you need to roll to be successful.

Hence, the larger the site is, the more tries you get before it is no longer
possible to find anything.

I've also considered combining that with a house rule that allows multiple
claims on a site, and potentially multiple factories.  But again, I would only
do that if I also was making a general expansion of the rules to widen the scope
and length of the game.

I haven't tried either yet.

#2940

From: "brucekg@..." <brucekg@...>
Date: Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:21 pm
Subject: Prospecting

brucekg...

The following is from our house rules.

2. Prospecting
  2.1. Primary and Secondary Prospecting Attempts
  a) A primary attempt is the first prospecting roll performed at a site.  A
secondary attempt is the attempt performed with the benefit of the buggy.  Place
a black disc for each failed attempt.
  b) A secondary attempt can be performed on any site with only a single black
disc (i.e. where only a primary attempt has been performed).
  2.2. Enhanced Prospecting
  a) A prospecting attempt with a bonus (i.e. -2 at Dark Sites) is "enhanced".
  b) If an enhanced attempt fails the bonus needs to be recorded with the
failure.  A numbered chit could be used for this purpose.
  c) Re-Prospecting a site is allowed if the stack has a bonus that is better
than the recorded failure at the site.  For re-prospecting to succeed the die
roll must be less than or equal to the difference between the player's bonus and
the recorded failed bonus.

#2941

From: "mike_yawa32" <blockhead@...>
Date: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:34 pm
Subject: Ready to dive in...

mike_yawa32

Hi, I'm exicted to try this game, but am a little mixed up about what to get.

Base Game.  I've been told there is 2nd Edition available for pre-order, but I
see a "1st Reprint with errata" on the SM site, available now, shipping end of
Nov.  Is that really the same thing, the SM 1st reprint is the way to go?

Sierra madre wants $60 for the 1st Reprint, some on-line retailers advertizing
on BGG want $36 for a pre-order (version unspecified). Be happy to support Phil,
just reading the desgin diary made me appreciate thisgame, but $24 would also
buy the Expansion :)

Expansion.  Read the remarks about "old" expansion works with "new" base game,
but new exapnsion coming and plans ofr "expansion of expansion" (aks as upgrade
kit!).  Old expansion is old through SM and Amazon (with fullfillment by SM, and
same price).  How close to is that to going OOP?  Should I jump in now, or wait
for new expansion?

Notice the frazzle maps are popular, but don't know if they include latest
errata (ie, is it the old base map or rhe new base map?).  Do they include the
extra space from the expansion?

Lastly, SM also sells a 52.5x35 poster with even more space than the game plus
expansion.  Is it possible/desirable to play on such a poster?

Sorry, all fired up about tryin this, just not sure which direction to leap.

#2942

From: Phil Eklund <phileklund@...>
Date: Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:56 pm
Subject: Re: Ready to dive in...

phileklund

Hello Mike, The 2nd edition HF is now out, and it is similar to the first edition, except that errata is incorporated and features a new rocket diagram that is in color and has other improvements. This edition arrives in the US in a few weeks. A new expansion will be featured when the old one goes out of print, but the new expansion (if it is published) will not obsolete the old one. The poster map is available and is quite suitable to play on, this is how I prefer to do it. Just make sure that you order a size that is compatible with your playing table.

Phil Eklund
Sierra Madre Games
2525 E Prince Road #72, Tucson, AZ 85716
www.SierraMadreGames.com

-----Original Message-----
From: mike_yawa32 <blockhead@...>
To: HighFrontier <HighFrontier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Nov 11, 2011 7:34 am
Subject: [HighFrontier] Ready to dive in...

Hi, I'm exicted to try this game, but am a little mixed up about what to get.

Base Game. I've been told there is 2nd Edition available for pre-order, but I see a "1st Reprint with errata" on the SM site, available now, shipping end of Nov. Is that really the same thing, the SM 1st reprint is the way to go?

Sierra madre wants $60 for the 1st Reprint, some on-line retailers advertizing on BGG want $36 for a pre-order (version unspecified). Be happy to support Phil, just reading the desgin diary made me appreciate thisgame, but $24 would also buy the Expansion :)

Expansion. Read the remarks about "old" expansion works with "new" base game, but new exapnsion coming and plans ofr "expansion of expansion" (aks as upgrade kit!). Old expansion is old through SM and Amazon (with fullfillment by SM, and same price). How close to is that to going OOP? Should I jump in now, or wait for new expansion?

Notice the frazzle maps are popular, but don't know if they include latest errata (ie, is it the old base map or rhe new base map?). Do they include the extra space from the expansion?

Lastly, SM also sells a 52.5x35 poster with even more space than the game plus expansion. Is it possible/desirable to play on such a poster?

Sorry, all fired up about tryin this, just not sure which direction to leap.

#2943

From: "Mike NotSpecified" <blockhead@...>
Date: Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:51 pm
Subject: Re: Ready to dive in...

mike_yawa32

Thanks Phil.  Is the poster offerred on the SMG website the same as the one on
the Frazzle site?  Im thinking the Frazzle is a blow-up of the gamemap (does
it include the additional playing area from the expansion?) and the poster on
the SMG website is actually depicting an even larger area?


On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:56:37 -0500 (EST)
   Phil Eklund <phileklund@...> wrote:
> Hello Mike,  The 2nd edition HF is now out, and it is similar to the first
>edition, except that errata is incorporated and features a new rocket diagram
>that is in color and has other improvements.  This edition arrives in the US
>in a few weeks.  A new expansion will be featured when the old one goes out
>of print, but the new expansion (if it is published) will not obsolete the
>old one.  The poster map is available and is quite suitable to play on, this
>is how I prefer to do it.  Just make sure that you order a size that is
>compatible with your playing table.
>
>
> Phil Eklund
> Sierra Madre Games
> 2525 E Prince Road #72, Tucson, AZ 85716
> www.SierraMadreGames.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>From: mike_yawa32 <blockhead@...>
> To: HighFrontier <HighFrontier@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, Nov 11, 2011 7:34 am
> Subject: [HighFrontier] Ready to dive in...
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi, I'm exicted to try this game, but am a little mixed up about what to
>get.
>
> Base Game.  I've been told there is 2nd Edition available for pre-order, but
>I see a "1st Reprint with errata" on the SM site, available now, shipping end
>of Nov.  Is that really the same thing, the SM 1st reprint is the way to go?
>
> Sierra madre wants $60 for the 1st Reprint, some on-line retailers
>advertizing on BGG want $36 for a pre-order (version unspecified). Be happy
>to support Phil, just reading the desgin diary made me appreciate thisgame,
>but $24 would also buy the Expansion :)
>
> Expansion.  Read the remarks about "old" expansion works with "new" base
>game, but new exapnsion coming and plans ofr "expansion of expansion" (aks as
>upgrade kit!).  Old expansion is old through SM and Amazon (with fullfillment
>by SM, and same price).  How close to is that to going OOP?  Should I jump in
>now, or wait for new expansion?
>
> Notice the frazzle maps are popular, but don't know if they include latest
>errata (ie, is it the old base map or rhe new base map?).  Do they include
>the extra space from the expansion?
>
> Lastly, SM also sells a 52.5x35 poster with even more space than the game
>plus expansion.  Is it possible/desirable to play on such a poster?
>
> Sorry, all fired up about tryin this, just not sure which direction to leap.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

#2944

From: Phil Eklund <phileklund@...>
Date: Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:13 am
Subject: Re: Ready to dive in...

phileklund

The poster in the SMG website directs you to the zazzle site, and thus is the same as the one in the Zazzle site,

Phil Eklund
Sierra Madre Games
2525 E Prince Road #72, Tucson, AZ 85716
www.SierraMadreGames.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike NotSpecified <blockhead@...>
To: HighFrontier <HighFrontier@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Nov 11, 2011 10:51 am
Subject: Re: [HighFrontier] Ready to dive in...

Thanks Phil. Is the poster offerred on the SMG website the same as the one on
the Frazzle site? Im thinking the Frazzle is a blow-up of the gamemap (does
it include the additional playing area from the expansion?) and the poster on
the SMG website is actually depicting an even larger area?

On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:56:37 -0500 (EST)
Phil Eklund <phileklund@...> wrote:
> Hello Mike, The 2nd edition HF is now out, and it is similar to the first
>edition, except that errata is incorporated and features a new rocket diagram
>that is in color and has other improvements. This edition arrives in the US
>in a few weeks. A new expansion will be featured when the old one goes out
>of print, but the new expansion (if it is published) will not obsolete the
>old one. The poster map is available and is quite suitable to play on, this
>is how I prefer to do it. Just make sure that you order a size that is
>compatible with your playing table.
>
>
> Phil Eklund
> Sierra Madre Games
> 2525 E Prince Road #72, Tucson, AZ 85716
> www.SierraMadreGames.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>From: mike_yawa32 <blockhead@...>
> To: HighFrontier <HighFrontier@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, Nov 11, 2011 7:34 am
> Subject: [HighFrontier] Ready to dive in...
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi, I'm exicted to try this game, but am a little mixed up about what to
>get.
>
> Base Game. I've been told there is 2nd Edition available for pre-order, but
>I see a "1st Reprint with errata" on the SM site, available now, shipping end
>of Nov. Is that really the same thing, the SM 1st reprint is the way to go?
>
> Sierra madre wants $60 for the 1st Reprint, some on-line retailers
>advertizing on BGG want $36 for a pre-order (version unspecified). Be happy
>to support Phil, just reading the desgin diary made me appreciate thisgame,
>but $24 would also buy the Expansion :)
>
> Expansion. Read the remarks about "old" expansion works with "new" base
>game, but new exapnsion coming and plans ofr "expansion of expansion" (aks as
>upgrade kit!). Old expansion is old through SM and Amazon (with fullfillment
>by SM, and same price). How close to is that to going OOP? Should I jump in
>now, or wait for new expansion?
>
> Notice the frazzle maps are popular, but don't know if they include latest
>errata (ie, is it the old base map or rhe new base map?). Do they include
>the extra space from the expansion?
>
> Lastly, SM also sells a 52.5x35 poster with even more space than the game
>plus expansion. Is it possible/desirable to play on such a poster?
>
> Sorry, all fired up about tryin this, just not sure which direction to leap.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

#2945

From: "Mike NotSpecified" <blockhead@...>
Date: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:27 pm
Subject: Re: Ready to dive in...

mike_yawa32

OK, I ordered a base game and expansion from Sierra Madre right now.  Can
anybody with expierence of the zazzle maps give any opinions?  What size do
you find best?  I have a 4x8 gaming table with a plexiglass cover, so I can
accomadate almost any size and I suspect paper quality is not an issue with
the plexiglass.


On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:13:06 -0500 (EST)
   Phil Eklund <phileklund@...> wrote:
> The poster in the SMG website directs you to the zazzle site, and thus is
>the same as the one in the Zazzle site,
>
>
> Phil Eklund
> Sierra Madre Games
> 2525 E Prince Road #72, Tucson, AZ 85716
> www.SierraMadreGames.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>From: Mike NotSpecified <blockhead@...>
> To: HighFrontier <HighFrontier@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, Nov 11, 2011 10:51 am
> Subject: Re: [HighFrontier] Ready to dive in...
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Phil.  Is the poster offerred on the SMG website the same as the one
>on
> the Frazzle site?  Im thinking the Frazzle is a blow-up of the gamemap (does
> it include the additional playing area from the expansion?) and the poster
>on
> the SMG website is actually depicting an even larger area?
>
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:56:37 -0500 (EST)
>  Phil Eklund <phileklund@...> wrote:
>> Hello Mike,  The 2nd edition HF is now out, and it is similar to the first
>>edition, except that errata is incorporated and features a new rocket diagram
>>that is in color and has other improvements.  This edition arrives in the US
>>in a few weeks.  A new expansion will be featured when the old one goes out
>>of print, but the new expansion (if it is published) will not obsolete the
>>old one.  The poster map is available and is quite suitable to play on, this
>>is how I prefer to do it.  Just make sure that you order a size that is
>>compatible with your playing table.
>>
>>
>> Phil Eklund
>> Sierra Madre Games
>> 2525 E Prince Road #72, Tucson, AZ 85716
>> www.SierraMadreGames.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>From: mike_yawa32 <blockhead@...>
>> To: HighFrontier <HighFrontier@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Fri, Nov 11, 2011 7:34 am
>> Subject: [HighFrontier] Ready to dive in...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi, I'm exicted to try this game, but am a little mixed up about what to
>>get.
>>
>> Base Game.  I've been told there is 2nd Edition available for pre-order, but
>>I see a "1st Reprint with errata" on the SM site, available now, shipping end
>>of Nov.  Is that really the same thing, the SM 1st reprint is the way to go?
>>
>> Sierra madre wants $60 for the 1st Reprint, some on-line retailers
>>advertizing on BGG want $36 for a pre-order (version unspecified). Be happy
>>to support Phil, just reading the desgin diary made me appreciate thisgame,
>>but $24 would also buy the Expansion :)
>>
>> Expansion.  Read the remarks about "old" expansion works with "new" base
>>game, but new exapnsion coming and plans ofr "expansion of expansion" (aks as
>>upgrade kit!).  Old expansion is old through SM and Amazon (with fullfillment
>>by SM, and same price).  How close to is that to going OOP?  Should I jump in
>>now, or wait for new expansion?
>>
>> Notice the frazzle maps are popular, but don't know if they include latest
>>errata (ie, is it the old base map or rhe new base map?).  Do they include
>>the extra space from the expansion?
>>
>> Lastly, SM also sells a 52.5x35 poster with even more space than the game
>>plus expansion.  Is it possible/desirable to play on such a poster?
>>
>> Sorry, all fired up about tryin this, just not sure which direction to leap.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

#2946

From: "rbelikov" <rbelikov@...>
Date: Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:21 pm
Subject: Re: Creation of outposts

rbelikov

Yes!

(Sigh, all these planet chauvinists out there... :) )

--- In HighFrontier@yahoogroups.com, Richard Jones <rickardo.fantastico@...>
wrote:
>
> Even in empty space?
> Like if you ship doesn't make it through a radiation belt. You can leave the
> parts that didn't blow up as an outpost just on the other side ?
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Bruce K Gillespie <brucekg@...
> > wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > You can create a post anywhere.. That is my understanding.
> >
> >
>

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#2947

From: "peter.haslehurst" <peter.haslehurst@...>
Date: Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:30 pm
Subject: Re: High Frontier on Saturday

peter.hasleh...

Well High Frontier on Saturday was a partial success I would say. It took an
awful long time - 6.5 to 7 hours I would guess altogether. I was the only one
who had read the rules, so the first few hours I had to answer a LOT of rules
questions for every turn. I felt like I was planning everyone's missions at one
point! It's not that it's a complicated game - every one of us has mastered more
complicated games - but it's unfamiliar, so not much in the way of conceptual
landmarks.

Having said that - I loved it! Such a fascinating game, the time just flew by
for me. I did very poorly, possibly because I was so busy answering rules
questions that I didn't have time to think very clearly about what I was doing.
Towards the end I did make some good progress claiming asteroids with a 4.1/3
thruster and a raygun, but too late to get back into the running.

Simon and Nick both seemed to enjoy it too, both expressing a willingness to
play again. But Iain, having enjoyed the first few hours, seemed to lose the
will to live a few times when he was trying to figure out his next mission. He
won by a good margin (lots of glory points), but hisfinal verdict was
"overwrought". I don't anticipate persuading Iain to play it again soon.

So, this is a fantastic game, but not for everyone. And I'm sure it can be
played a lot quicker than we managed by even slightly experienced players. A
serious contender for my top 10 list.

--- In HighFrontier@yahoogroups.com, Phil Eklund <phileklund@...> wrote:
>
> I wish to hear how it goes, Peter!...last weekend I had Rus Belikov (a
scientist from NASA Ames) and Chris Peters over for a game of High Frontier.
> Unfortunately, I was much too desperate for the ESA services, and gave away
valuable trade cards that gave the game to Rus.  I also blackened the solar
system with failed raygun prospecting attempts.
>

#2948

From: "Graham, Andrew" <andrew.graham@...>
Date: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:24 am
Subject: RE: Ready to dive in...

agraham2410

The big map is good but it does not have anywhere to put cards or the political / events / solar cycle charts from the expansion map.

So you need space for them as well.

You will also need space to put all the players rocket fuel charts.

So unless these sheet are going on top of the map you need space for sheets of A4 paper round the map where the players are.

So subtract that and then get the biggest map that fits in the space that's left would be my recommendation.

Andy

From: HighFrontier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:HighFrontier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike NotSpecified
Sent: 12 November 2011 20:28
To: HighFrontier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HighFrontier] Ready to dive in...

OK, I ordered a base game and expansion from Sierra Madre right now. Can
anybody with expierence of the zazzle maps give any opinions? What size do
you find best? I have a 4x8 gaming table with a plexiglass cover, so I can
accomadate almost any size and I suspect paper quality is not an issue with
the plexiglass.

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#2949

From: "Mike NotSpecified" <blockhead@...>
Date: Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:23 pm
Subject: Re: Ready to dive in...

mike_yawa32

Thaks Andy, that's very good information.


On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:24:01 +0000
   "Graham, Andrew" <andrew.graham@...> wrote:
> The big map is good but it does not have anywhere to put cards or the
>political  / events / solar cycle charts from the expansion map.
> So you need space for them as well.
> You will also need space to put all the players rocket fuel charts.
> So unless these sheet are going on top of the map you need space for sheets
>of A4 paper round the map where the players are.
> So subtract that and then get the biggest map that fits in the space that's
>left would be my recommendation.
>
> Andy
>
>
> ________________________________
>From: HighFrontier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:HighFrontier@yahoogroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Mike NotSpecified
> Sent: 12 November 2011 20:28
> To: HighFrontier@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [HighFrontier] Ready to dive in...
>
>
>
> OK, I ordered a base game and expansion from Sierra Madre right now. Can
> anybody with expierence of the zazzle maps give any opinions? What size do
> you find best? I have a 4x8 gaming table with a plexiglass cover, so I can
> accomadate almost any size and I suspect paper quality is not an issue with
> the plexiglass.
>
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:13:06 -0500 (EST)
>
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#2950

From: "phil" <phileklund@...>
Date: Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:38 pm
Subject: An interesting article on the availability of water on asteroids

phileklund

An interesting article on the availability of water on asteroids: "Limits to Ice
on Asteroids (24) Themis and (65) Cybele
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1111/1111.3292v1.pdf

My summary:  Surface ice in the main asteroid belt is unstable, it sublimes away
in timescales of about 1000 years.  But collisions with 10m bodies also occur in
timescales of 1000 years, which can uncover buried ice on an asteroid.  So
asteroids will tend to have quasi-stable deposits of surface ice.

#2951

From: David Morse <dcmorse@...>
Date: Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:27 pm
Subject: Re: Re: High Frontier on Saturday

svref

My house rule for re-prospecting is super-simple:

A buggy robonaut can prospect a site with a single black disk, but it doesn't get a reroll.
When you fail prospecting with a buggy robonaut, increase the number of black disks on the site to 2.

#2952

From: "Mike NotSpecified" <blockhead@...>
Date: Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:07 am
Subject: Great Session Report on BGG

mike_yawa32

Just in case you missed this over on BGG.  Chris, are you on this list?

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/7867459#7867459

#2953

From: "Mike NotSpecified" <blockhead@...>
Date: Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:54 pm
Subject: Fwd: Updates in Your Groups, November 17, 2011

mike_yawa32

Learn more about the Update Email

Looking at the living rules on the Yahoo site and trying to figure out what I
need to download.  I have the 2nd Edition on order, so maybe nothing?  But if
I do want the most current I see:

Living Rules (zipped) p01-11 and 12-24 posted Apr 4 2011
Rules Nov 2010 PDF posted Nov 7 2010
Single page rules (2nd Edition) posted Nov 7 2011

That third item includes one file just updated that trigered the message from
Yahoo so I'm thinking that is the way to go.  The second item appears likely
to be obselete.

TIA for any advice





    --- the forwarded message follows ---

Updates in Your Groups
Beta

HighFrontier-High Frontier

phileklund posted a file "HighFrontierRules_Page06_11_11_15x.pdf" to the Living Rules in pdf format folder

#2954

From: "David Ells" <highfrontier2010@...>
Date: Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:13 pm
Subject: Europa, Europa!

www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature10608.html

#2956

From: "David Ells" <highfrontier2010@...>
Date: Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:30 am
Subject: Stephen Hawking: Space Exploration Crucial To Human Survival

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/brave-new-world-with-stephen-hawking

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/11/18/stephen-hawking-space-exploration_n_1101\
975.html?ref=mostpopular

#2957

From: "David Ells" <highfrontier2010@...>
Date: Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:31 am
Subject: Europa, Europa

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature10608.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/17/europa-water-jupiter-moon-photo-video_n\
_1099463.html?ref=mostpopular

#2958

From: "David Ells" <highfrontier2010@...>
Date: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:58 pm
Subject: _Blue Origin_ has released two new videos showing a successful test of a rocket

http://www.blueorigin.com/index.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/18/blue-origin-new-shepard-rocket-video_n_\
1101964.html?ref=technology#comments

#2959

From: "Mike NotSpecified" <blockhead@...>
Date: Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:14 pm
Subject: Zazzle sale

mike_yawa32

Zazzle is offering 30% off and free shipping today if anybody is waiting on a
poster purchase

#2960

From: "phil" <phileklund@...>
Date: Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:47 pm
Subject: For those of you in the New World waiting for your games.

phileklund

For those of you in the New World waiting for your games.  The shipper says that
my games are in New York customs.  There is a backlog from Thanksgiving, but
possibly they could be at the distribution point Mon-Tues, and I will be
shipping out the orders as soon as I can after that.  I apologize for the many
delays getting these games here.

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#2961

From: "Planet_Stories" <recursive_loop@...>
Date: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:12 pm
Subject: Jumpstarting (Human) Space Travel

recursive_loop