I am playing it totally safe... I am stripping the lookup tables that
have the numeric values for the XP progression. From what I have read
in this list, and comparing what i have seen in licensed 3.5 rules, this
will avoid any issues with WotC because if follows the spirit and the
letter of their licensing. Provided you have your copy of the book in
hand, it will take 10 minutes to data-enter the numbers back into the
tables. (Less if you do it with a formula) The sheet takes the tedious
math out using the tables for the adventuring party when the meet
challenges (creatures, traps, etc)

The challenge I am facing is finding the time to write down what goes in
what column and how to enter it WITHOUT quoting actual values. To make
the sheet work, I had to rotate the tables 90degrees, combine some
columns and split some out (see page 49 of the DMG... it is not a simple
table with 1 value per row and column).

We are very short staffed at work, so by the time I get home, I don't
even have time relax. I have had to cancel our last two gaming sessions
because I was too exhausted to prepare an adventure. Thanks for your
patience all. I will get this on here as soon as I can. I look forward
to everyone's feedback.

Marc
Thomas J Spackman wrote:
> Because from what I remember of the guts of HF 3.5, it doesn't "publish"
> the XP table. The 3.5 XP table follows a simple mathematical formula,
> and Excel can figure it out in no time at all if the formula is written
> right. That doesn't cause a problem at all, copyright-wise.
>
> -- TJ
>
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> To: Hero_Forge@yahoogroups.com
> From: TelasTX@...
> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:39:07 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Hero_Forge] XP Calculator
>
> Posting the XP table and using the table to calculate XP are two
> different things. Or at least that seems to be the approach that HF is
> using.
>
> Telas
>
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>
> On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 2:22 PM, D Charles Carter <a71superbee@...
> <mailto:a71superbee@...>> wrote:
>
> I was wondering the same thing myself. sounds like it will
> be useless if it is gutted before being posted.
>
> --- On *Fri, 11/28/08, Logan Andrews /<maquiscat@...
> <mailto:maquiscat@...>>/* wrote:
>
> From: Logan Andrews <maquiscat@...
> <mailto:maquiscat@...>>
> Subject: Re: [Hero_Forge] XP Calculator
> To: Hero_Forge@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Hero_Forge@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 6:22 AM
>
> OK if the experience table is copyrighted and HF doesn't have
> any of the copyrighted material in it then how does it make the
> calculation that tells you when you need to level up your
> character after the experience is entered?
>
> Star
>
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Marc <heroforge-reg@ gyges.org
> <mailto:heroforge-reg@...>> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> Chris emailed me off-list with an address to send the sheet
> for posting
> to the download site.
>
> I will remove the copyright / proprietary material and take
> my time
> write clear instructions for making it useful, then send it
> to him for
> posting.
>
> For those asking about the sheet as-is, I think it is best
> if I only
> share the copyright-safe version anywhere. From having read
> the list
> for a while, I believe one of the keys to HF's longevity is
> that we have
> always respected WotC's copyright.
>
> If you own the book, inserting the data is easy, but does
> need to be
> done with care. Please indulge me for a few days as I add a
> good how-to
> page to the sheet. For an idea of the scope of writing the
> instructions, have a look at DMG Page 49, table 3-1. Column
> 1 has
> between 1 and 3 entries, and the columns for values >=4
> there are
> repeats. I figured out a way to enter the data, but I want
> to take my
> time crafting instructions so that they will make sense to
> everyone.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marc
>
>
> >
> > To: Hero_Forge@yahoogro ups.com
> <mailto:Hero_Forge@yahoogroups.com>
>
> > From: heroforge-reg@ gyges.org
> <mailto:heroforge-reg@...>
> > Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:31:10 -0500
> > Subject: [Hero_Forge] XP Calculator
> >
> >
> > To all the Excel experts, data entry folk and
> power-user-beta- testers on
> > this group, I must say yet again how impressed I am with
> HeroForge.
> > Thanks specially to those who are continuing the 3.5 support.
> >
> > Before finding HF, the last fantasy game I played was
> AD&D. I found
> > tracking XP in 3.5 to be a real challenge compared to AD&D.
> >
> > To deal with this, I put together an Excel spreadsheet
> that helps me
> > calculate and track XP for my party. As a side benefit it
> also tracks
> > Gold and Treasure.
> >
> > This sheet uses lookup tables and cross references to
> automatically
> > calculate the XP awards for each party member based on
> the number of
> > creatures and their base CR. It then divides the XP among
> the party
> > members present at each individual encounter.
> >
> > I am aware of the very strong Copyright rules about
> making the XP and
> > Character level progressions tables available online. If
> I were to
> > strip those tables completely and replace them with
> instructions (copy
> > table from your DMG page xyz here), so that the sheet
> contains no
> > copyrighted content, would anyone in the group be
> interested in this
> > sheet?
> >
> > To the list owners: If members express an interest,
> should I email it to
> > you off-list for review and approval first? Is this
> something you might
> > make available on the HF download site?
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
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