My previous post was only a list of those pc running that week. As our
players each have 2 or more characters to chose from. For when one in
occupied on cult duties and is unavailable.

A more complete list of pc's used to date would be

Orlanth Adventurous 2
Ernalda the queen 2
Bevera 3
Vinga 4
Issares 1
Odayla 3
Chalana Arroy 1
Humakt 2
Earth Witch Shaman 1
Yinkin 2

Note our group usually has between 4 and 8 players.

Also there are a few characters that I know of that have been created or
converted from Runequest but not yet used. These include
Urox 1
Orlanth Adventurous 2
Chalana Arroy 1
Demalie Shaman 1
Eiretha Herder 1
Issaries 1




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Greg Stafford wrote:
> I want to be official here and compliment Wesley and Martin on this
> map, and thank them publicly on behalf of Issaries, Inc. and the
> Red Emperor.


I got my copy of the Lunar Map in the post and it is... beautiful. So
atractive is this map that my girlfreind Vanessa, who does not play
RPGs, said: "That is really nice, you could put that up on our wall
if you got that framed." Coming from Vanessa that is a hell of a
compliment, trust me.

Ian Cooper

Arkat gets a pretty heavy bad rep out of HW so far, although does
appear to be in part a mixed message.  Why is Arkat called the
Deceiver, and what do people have against him to have so slandered
his name?

On Tue, 1 May 2001 gamartin@... wrote:

> Arkat gets a pretty heavy bad rep out of HW so far, although does
> appear to be in part a mixed message.  Why is Arkat called the
> Deceiver, and what do people have against him to have so slandered
> his name?

Destroyed the bright god?
Slaughtered thousands in his pursuit of vendetta?
Destroyed cultures where it suited his purpose?
Betrayed (just about) everyone he came into contact with?
Subjected large areas of the continent to domination by trolls for years?

The fact that he arguably saved the world seems minor in comparison...

Cheers,
Graham

--
Graham Robinson 	 The Stableyard - Internet Solutions
gjr@...  http://www.thestableyard.net

Gareth Martin:

>Arkat gets a pretty heavy bad rep out of HW so far, although does
>appear to be in part a mixed message.  Why is Arkat called the
>Deceiver, and what do people have against him to have so slandered
>his name?

Arkat gets a bad rep from the Brithini because he caused trouble
within their social order and then abandoned their ways.

Arkat gets a bad rep from the Seshnegi because they gave so much
to support him in his crusade yet he deserts to the Orlanthi.
After many Malkioni still supported him in his last battles, he
sets up the Dark Empire of Stygia to menace true Malkioni
everywhere.

Arkat gets a bad rep from the Borists because he and his successors
persecuted them.

Arkat gets a bad rep from the Heortlings because they fought for him
because he promised liberation but left them in servitude to the
Trolls.

Arkat gets a bad rep from the Pelorians because he exterminated
Nysalor and brought a Empire of Peace and Plenty to an end.

Arkat gets a bad rep from everybody (except Safelster and the
Uz) because Gbaji told so many lies about him.

--Peter Metcalfe

--- In HeroWars@y..., reinierd@y... wrote:
> Will there be hardcopies available for sale at Tentacles?

There will be a few, and when they sell out, there will also be forms
so that you can pay there and then in dollars, DM or pounds and have
the maps posted on to you.

Mark

The Unspoken Word, a Gloranthan magazine, coming soon
http://www.celtic-webs.com/theunspokenword/

Roderick and Ellen Robertson wrote:
>
>
> A dry sauna/heat bath might even be preferable - sweat all ther toxins
> out
> of your body, then scrape it all off with nice clean oil and a
> strigil.
>
> RR
>

And there's just something more elegant about plotting and intriguing in
a comfortable, steamy bath than behind the shrubbery next to the Chief's
Hall.  More fragrant too.

Jeff

I noticed the Issaris websit still showed the release dates for Storm
Tribes as april and Sartar Rising as may. Has anyone got an updated
release timetable on these? Thanks for any info you can give.

Larry

On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Roderick and Ellen Robertson wrote:

> > >What kind of a Yelmic person takes a bath anyway??
> >
> > In our games, ritual purification is a big part of a Yelmite's daily
> > existence. I'll bet a steam bath (sauna) is the best -- that way you
> > don't have to take your chances that your bath water isn't ritually
> > clean.
>
> Also, steam is the victory of Fire over Water. You wouldn't want to take the
> chance of drowning your Fire by actually getting into a tub of water, do
> you?!?
>
> A dry sauna/heat bath might even be preferable - sweat all ther toxins out
> of your body, then scrape it all off with nice clean oil and a strigil.
>
> RR

Yes, that does sound right. Thank's for the nifty ideas, David and
Roderick.

	 -Adept

Hello Friends,

> Arkat gets a pretty heavy bad rep out of HW so far, although does
> appear to be in part a mixed message.  Why is Arkat called the
> Deceiver, and what do people have against him to have so slandered
> his name?

He comes from the west, joins the Heortlings and their God Humakt, but then
betrays them in becoming a troll and joining Zorak Zoran.

Isn´t that deceiving enaugh?


Related question:
If Arkat is the deceiver for most of the Heortlings, why does his name (Arkat
/ Argrath) still means liberator?


Cheers

André

From: <gamartin@...>
> Arkat gets a pretty heavy bad rep out of HW so far, although does
> appear to be in part a mixed message.  Why is Arkat called the
> Deceiver, and what do people have against him to have so slandered
> his name?

I got the impression from some writings (can't remember which, was it Gods
of Terror?), that Arkat, in some cultures, is even confused with Gbaji.
This may be in a literal sense or it may be in the sense that he went so far
in his quest to kill Gbaji that in the end there was little difference
between them.  Either way, the name the Deceiver fits the bill.

He's the classic example of someone who started out trying to achieve
something for a common good and got so caught up in his quest that he lost
sight of all else, to the point of giving up his humanity.  To the
Heortlings he's "the man who gave up his humanity to beat his enemy".  To
them, I guess, it's a step too far.

I've always had a vaguely soft spot for Arkat (not that I know too much
about him), he always struck me as more of a tragic figure than a figure to
be despised.  I mean, in his quest to prove that Nysalor's illumination is
evil and wrong, he became illuminated himself.

"He who fights with monsters might take care
lest he thereby become a monster.
And if you gaze for long into an abyss,
the abyss gazes also into you."  -Nietsche

Harry.

Hi Guys,

  I will be doing my best to bring over some Lunar Maps to Castle Stahleck,
along with some copies of the Unspoken Word issue 1, however I am a little
limited on luggage space and numbers may be limited unless I can get lawrence
Whittaker, Marrtin Hawley and Danny Bourne to carry this precious cargo in
strategically placed orifices.

Simon


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hello,

I asked question about Locaem Tribe and dietary life of Sartar about two
weeks ago. I'm very sorry I didn't say thank you for materials you
kindly provided. They help me a lot, and I would be able to run Locaem
Tribe PBeM campaign from this weekend. Thank you for info!

As for Campaign Characters thread, we have six PCs in that game.

1 Vinga / Destor warrior
1 Orlanth Allfather / Starkaval warrior
1 Issaries / Goldentongue merchant
1 Humakt / Makma Ran (sp?) warrior
1 Orlanth Adventurous / Desemborth warrior
1 Yelmalio / Kushile Templer

5/6 are martial. Umm...

Regards,

-------------------------------------------------------------------
Tadaaki Kakegawa
                       e-mail:   yelmalio@...
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Quoting "KYER, JEFFREY" <jeff.kyer@...>:

> And there's just something more elegant about plotting and intriguing
> in
> a comfortable, steamy bath than behind the shrubbery next to the
> Chief's
> Hall.  More fragrant too.

And so much easier to be overheard -- "Wait, was that the towel boy? find him
and kill him before he can reveal all...."

Peter Larsen

Osentalka@... wrote:
>
> Hello Friends,
>
> > Arkat gets a pretty heavy bad rep out of HW so far, although does
> > appear to be in part a mixed message.  Why is Arkat called the
> > Deceiver, and what do people have against him to have so slandered
> > his name?
>
> He comes from the west, joins the Heortlings and their God Humakt, but
> then
> betrays them in becoming a troll and joining Zorak Zoran.
>
> Isn´t that deceiving enaugh?

A few others:

Laid waste to everything between the Western Ocean and Dragon Pass south
of the Rockwoods.   His buddy Talor did the same NORTH of the Rockwoods
but he's actually still well liked up in Loksalm.

Slaughtered and corrupted the most fertile land in Genertela (Dorastor)

Destroyed deities and spirits which whole peoples relied on for survival
-- leaving them to starve.

Brought Sorcery to the Heortlings. (joy!)

Brought Pagan Practices to the Malkioni. (double joy!)

The bringing trolls to everyone seems to have been well covered by
others in this discussion.

Discovered and categorized the techniques for HeroQuesting that were
later used and abused by the Godlearners -- so that whole episode can be
laid at Arkat's door too!

Stole sacred myths and gave them to outisders who misused them.  He did
this a lot.

Oh, and the elves (who sided with Nysalor) were burned and slaughtered
by him.  They have long memories.  Same goes for the Dwarfs.

The Dragonnewts probably DO like him, which among many peoples who hate
dragons, is another strike against Arkat.

Actually, the Trolls like him a fair bit. He tricked EVERYONE. Many
trolls believe he was a troll reborn as a human to do all the things he
did and bring secrets home. Of course, more conservative Trolls dont'
like him because he brought all these strange and un-trollish secrets
home.

> Related question:
> If Arkat is the deceiver for most of the Heortlings, why does his name
> (Arkat
> / Argrath) still means liberator?
>
> Cheers
>
> André

Languages don't change that readily? Words go in and out of fashion?
And, of course, it could have been "Argrath (spit)" in the 700's.

Arkat is a good example of 'to save the village, we had to destroy it'
-- but on a much, much larger scale.

Jeff Kyer

simonbrayuk@... wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I will be doing my best to bring over some Lunar Maps to Castle
> Stahleck,
> along with some copies of the Unspoken Word issue 1, however I am a
> little
> limited on luggage space and numbers may be limited unless I can get
> lawrence
> Whittaker, Marrtin Hawley and Danny Bourne to carry this precious
> cargo in
> strategically placed orifices.
>
> Simon

Um. Won't that damage the product....?

Maybe I'd better preorder instead. =)

Jeff

--- In HeroWars@y..., "Roderick and Ellen Robertson" <rjremr@s...>
wrote:
daily
> > existence. I'll bet a steam bath (sauna) is the best -- that way
you
> > don't have to take your chances that your bath water isn't
ritually
> > clean.
>
> Also, steam is the victory of Fire over Water. You wouldn't want to
take the
> chance of drowning your Fire by actually getting into a tub of
water, do
> you?!?
>
> A dry sauna/heat bath might even be preferable - sweat all ther
toxins out
> of your body, then scrape it all off with nice clean oil and a
strigil.
>

Apparently none of the Finns have been following this thread yet, so
having grown up with periodic visits to my Finnish grandfather and
his traditional sauna, let me clarify something:

A sauna is *not* a steam bath.

Cheap north american imitation mostly don't get hot enough for
maximum effect, so people use a lot of steam to get the same effect,
but a proper sauna is not at all steamy.  It is also so hot that the
uninitiated had best breath carefully, move slowly, and not sit
directly on the wood.  You might dash a little water on the rocks for
a surge of apparent heat, but I seem to recall my grandfather doing
so almost never.

You sweat out the dirt, then the only question is how you get rid of
the sweat.  Water is traditional, but a cultural variation where you
scrape yourself down after sweating would seem very appropriate to
yelmalio types--fire (in the form of heat) drives out the impurities,
and you scrape off the impurities AND water (in the form of sweat),
rendering yourself that much more pure.

One additional note for the culturally minded: from what I understand
the sauna was also the traditional sick room.  Which makes sense from
a modern germ theory perspective when you think about how nice and
sterile it would probably be, as well as how easy it is to keep the
invalid comfortably warm.  I would imagine that in sauna using
gloranthan cultures the same would apply, with perhaps additional
long term blessings/charms reinforcing the health bringing properties
of the sauna.

The romans, the turks, and no doubt others used steam baths.  Same
generaly concept, but very different in feel.  Much better for
mysterious plotting however, especially if you go to extremes on the
steam, so I'd vote for them being used in Dara Happa :)

--Bryan

> I might suggest that KoDP seems not a bad way to help non-gamers to
> understand their gaming friends/spouses/offspring, as well.
>
> Long live the King! (At least until I can write up a kick-butt
> character and take him out myself!)
> -
>
> Signed,
> A lucky beginner (or a well supported one at least).

I envy this poster: but she has a significant advantage over my
situation. She lives in an english speaking community.
In Italy (and in my family and ring of friends) the fact that
HeroWars and KoDP are in english is a major obstacle.
For my wife it is a great obstacle (she plays Warcraft, for instance,
because there the language is no problem, but in KoDP you simply
can't).

This is not a critique to anyone. I like KoDP and use it as a
Gloranthan Lore Encyclopaedia, but my situation is not that simple.

Ciao,
Gian

--- In HeroWars@y..., Peter Metcalfe <metcalph@b...> wrote:
> Mikko:
> The Vadeli are chaotics but have special spells to hide this.

Really? Are they not one of the original denizens of Danmastalan?

Are they chaotic by nature or by choice?

> I can't think of what the Seshnegi (or the Umathelans)
> might do about Chaos.  They have Vadeli in any case.

Are Vadeli so weel-known in Seshnelan history? They may be chaotic,
but they are a small fraction of chaos to a Seshnelan, or so I figure.

> >There are those delightful Borists, of
> >course, and that brotherhood that specializes in saving souls from
hell
> >and chaos.

Saint Gerome. I loved it. Someone here in Italy keeps calling
me "Gerome" for the assonance of my name, so I can't forget that
order.

> The Borists are damnable heretics because of their attitude to
> Chaos, the Galvosti only less so (I see their old kingdom as an
> Apartheid State with the elite Galvosti tapping a pagan populace)
> because they only do tapping and that upon pagans.  As for Saint
> Gerome, the Inferno is probably the best source material.

Who has written more about Gerome? You, Peter, or Greg or Jamie?
Where can I find more?

Gian "Gerome" Geroldi

plarsen@... wrote:
>
> Quoting "KYER, JEFFREY" <jeff.kyer@...>:
>
> > And there's just something more elegant about plotting and
> intriguing
> > in
> > a comfortable, steamy bath than behind the shrubbery next to the
> > Chief's
> > Hall.  More fragrant too.
>
> And so much easier to be overheard -- "Wait, was that the towel boy?
> find him
> and kill him before he can reveal all...."
>
> Peter Larsen
>

Kill him? I have a much better idea...

Besides, I _like_ steam-baths. They are one thing I really do miss about
living where I do now.

Jeff

plarsen@... wrote:
>
> Quoting "KYER, JEFFREY" <jeff.kyer@...>:
>
> > And there's just something more elegant about plotting and
> intriguing
> > in
> > a comfortable, steamy bath than behind the shrubbery next to the
> > Chief's
> > Hall.  More fragrant too.
>
> And so much easier to be overheard -- "Wait, was that the towel boy?
> find him
> and kill him before he can reveal all...."
>
> Peter Larsen
>

Kill him? I have a much better idea...

Besides, I _like_ steam-baths. They are one thing I really do miss about
living where I do now.

Jeff

Jeff:

<< > >Bevara (allegedly the default female PC according to TR!): not  a one

  Its the opposite extreme from the combat oriented stereotype, maybe? >>

       Nah, that would be Chalana Arroy. Of course, we only have one of them,
too...

Roderick:

<<Ernalda has 5 total entries, two of which are undifferentiated.>>

      True, I didn't bother differentiating between them on my summary. But,
IIRC, one was Enferalda, the other a Queen aspect (both were in David
Boatright's campaign).

Trotsky

Mikko:

<< How aware of chaos are people? >>

       Very aware. Note that a large chaos nest - Dilis Swamp - lies right
next to the kingdom of Loskalm (indeed, by some definitions, it lies inside
the kingdom).

<< And what is chaos in the western worldview? >>

      Chaos is the breakdown of the natural order; the end of all laws,
physical, natural or moral.

<< One thing that chaos is, I'd think, that it's also a versatile energy
source. I loved the reference in G:IttHW about the ruling class of sorcerers
who use chaos to power their magic. >>

       Burn the heretics! Chaos as versatile energy source is not the usual
Malkioni view, although, yes, there are a few groups in the West which
believe this (much as not all people in central Genertela are heortlings).

Peter:

<<In a draft of the Loskalmi chapter, I once had a group of Loskalmi Wizards
that attempted to nuke the Kingdom of War
with chaotic magic but failed disastrously (and the matter hushed up).  The
order is suppressed but a copy of their
tome "the Book of Dead Names" (i.e. what Necronomicon was meant to mean) is
missing!  Even if it is still true (I
really created it as a plot hook more than a general Loskalmi tendency), >>

      FWIW, I don't think that is still true (but, of course, I don't have the
final say, so I could be wrong).

Forward the Golden Banner of Flame!
      Trotsky

From what's been said, Storm Tribe has been at the printers for the last
2 weeks. That means it should be back with Issaries in a few days at
most.

Don't know about the release date for Sartar Rising! though.  Inspection
of turnaround time shows that the time between releases is lower.  It
-looks- like the pace is picking up.

Jeff

-------- Original Message --------
  Subject: [HeroWars] Storm Tribes and Sartar Rising
     Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 13:36:15 -0000
     From: lboard@...
Reply-To: HeroWars@yahoogroups.com
       To: HeroWars@yahoogroups.com

I noticed the Issaris websit still showed the release dates for Storm
Tribes as april and Sartar Rising as may. Has anyone got an updated
release timetable on these? Thanks for any info you can give.

Larry

Osentalka@... wrote:
>
> Hello Friends,
>
> > Arkat gets a pretty heavy bad rep out of HW so far, although does
> > appear to be in part a mixed message.  Why is Arkat called the
> > Deceiver, and what do people have against him to have so slandered
> > his name?
>
> He comes from the west, joins the Heortlings and their God Humakt, but
> then
> betrays them in becoming a troll and joining Zorak Zoran.
>
> Isn´t that deceiving enaugh?

A few others:

Laid waste to everything between the Western Ocean and Dragon Pass south
of the Rockwoods.   His buddy Talor did the same NORTH of the Rockwoods
but he's actually still well liked up in Loksalm.

Slaughtered and corrupted the most fertile land in Genertela (Dorastor)

Destroyed deities and spirits which whole peoples relied on for survival
-- leaving them to starve.

Brought Sorcery to the Heortlings. (joy!)

Brought Pagan Practices to the Malkioni. (double joy!)

The bringing trolls to everyone seems to have been well covered by
others in this discussion.

Discovered and categorized the techniques for HeroQuesting that were
later used and abused by the Godlearners -- so that whole episode can be
laid at Arkat's door too!

Stole sacred myths and gave them to outisders who misused them.  He did
this a lot.

Oh, and the elves (who sided with Nysalor) were burned and slaughtered
by him.  They have long memories.  Same goes for the Dwarfs.

The Dragonnewts probably DO like him, which among many peoples who hate
dragons, is another strike against Arkat.

Actually, the Trolls like him a fair bit. He tricked EVERYONE. Many
trolls believe he was a troll reborn as a human to do all the things he
did and bring secrets home. Of course, more conservative Trolls dont'
like him because he brought all these strange and un-trollish secrets
home.

> Related question:
> If Arkat is the deceiver for most of the Heortlings, why does his name
> (Arkat
> / Argrath) still means liberator?
>
> Cheers
>
> André

Languages don't change that readily? Words go in and out of fashion?
And, of course, it could have been "Argrath (spit)" in the 700's.

Arkat is a good example of 'to save the village, we had to destroy it'
-- but on a much, much larger scale.

Jeff Kyer

having only read this message (like a snippet of conversation overheard), it
seems that I've sampled un soupcent (?) of a rich plot. Is this so? Coz the
images that spring to mind are quite vivid....

-----Original Message-----
From: plarsen@... [mailto:plarsen@...]
Sent: 01 May 2001 16:39
To: HeroWars@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HeroWars] Re: cleanliness


Quoting "KYER, JEFFREY" <jeff.kyer@...>:

> And there's just something more elegant about plotting and intriguing
> in
> a comfortable, steamy bath than behind the shrubbery next to the
> Chief's
> Hall.  More fragrant too.

And so much easier to be overheard -- "Wait, was that the towel boy? find
him
and kill him before he can reveal all...."

Peter Larsen



Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Harry (et all)

I have been fascinated with everything Greg ever wrote about Arkat and have
even run/played several characters who followed him.

I think that Harry's thoughts here are pretty much on the money. Except for
the illumination thing - Arkat was illumined from the beginning of the story
proper and that the quest was to destroy the deceiver and free the oppressed
minds (although this last phrase is arguably propaganda).

In my view, the only ones (exceptions will no doubt spring up like
Pythonesque conformists) connected with him who don't feel betrayed by Arkat
are the ones who followed him devoutly through all the stages
transformation. It is doubtful that the core group thought of themselves as
traitors. Instead, a 'higher' calling was felt by all, inspired by their
charismatic leader-by-example.

Harry, I love the quote from Nietzsche - wasn't that used in the X-Files?
Very emotive. Mulder was only saved by his deep relationship with Scully.
Maybe if Arkat had had a relationship on that level the story would be
carried on into the eighth season too. Or has it already gone that far?
Parallels between Mulder's abduction and Arkat's apotheosis spring to mind.
(sorry for the spoiler to those who didn't know)

Matthew

-----Original Message-----
From: Grawe, Philipp [mailto:pgrawe@...]
Sent: 01 May 2001 12:15
To: HeroWars@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [HeroWars] why is everyone so down on Arkat?


From: <gamartin@...>
> Arkat gets a pretty heavy bad rep out of HW so far, although does
> appear to be in part a mixed message.  Why is Arkat called the
> Deceiver, and what do people have against him to have so slandered
> his name?

I got the impression from some writings (can't remember which, was it Gods
of Terror?), that Arkat, in some cultures, is even confused with Gbaji.
This may be in a literal sense or it may be in the sense that he went so far
in his quest to kill Gbaji that in the end there was little difference
between them.  Either way, the name the Deceiver fits the bill.

He's the classic example of someone who started out trying to achieve
something for a common good and got so caught up in his quest that he lost
sight of all else, to the point of giving up his humanity.  To the
Heortlings he's "the man who gave up his humanity to beat his enemy".  To
them, I guess, it's a step too far.

I've always had a vaguely soft spot for Arkat (not that I know too much
about him), he always struck me as more of a tragic figure than a figure to
be despised.  I mean, in his quest to prove that Nysalor's illumination is
evil and wrong, he became illuminated himself.

"He who fights with monsters might take care
lest he thereby become a monster.
And if you gaze for long into an abyss,
the abyss gazes also into you."  -Nietsche

Harry.





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Jeff, I'm getting two copies of your mail, seperated by almost an hour though. 
Are you hitting send a second time an hour later or is something strange going
on with your mailer?

Am I the only one getting two Jeffs?

Harry.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: KYER, JEFFREY [mailto:jeff.kyer@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2001 6:03 AM
> To: HeroWars@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [HeroWars] Storm Tribes and Sartar Rising
>
>
> From what's been said, Storm Tribe has been at the printers
> for the last
> 2 weeks. That means it should be back with Issaries in a few days at
> most.
>
> Don't know about the release date for Sartar Rising! though.
> Inspection
> of turnaround time shows that the time between releases is lower.  It
> -looks- like the pace is picking up.
>
> Jeff
>
> -------- Original Message --------
>  Subject: [HeroWars] Storm Tribes and Sartar Rising
>     Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 13:36:15 -0000
>     From: lboard@...
> Reply-To: HeroWars@yahoogroups.com
>       To: HeroWars@yahoogroups.com
>
> I noticed the Issaris websit still showed the release dates for Storm
> Tribes as april and Sartar Rising as may. Has anyone got an updated
> release timetable on these? Thanks for any info you can give.
>
> Larry
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

>Arkat gets a pretty heavy bad rep out of HW so far, although does
>appear to be in part a mixed message.  Why is Arkat called the
>Deceiver, and what do people have against him to have so slandered
>his name?

Well, so far we haven't seen anything written on the trolls of
Ralios, who are about the only people in Genertela (west of Prax)
whom Arkat did not betray.


Larry

>I noticed the Issaris websit still showed the release dates for Storm
>Tribes as april and Sartar Rising as may. Has anyone got an updated
>release timetable on these? Thanks for any info you can give.

Last I heard, Storm Tribe was at the printer.


Gian

>For my wife it is a great obstacle (she plays Warcraft, for instance,
>because there the language is no problem, but in KoDP you simply
>can't).

Obviously we'd love to have King of Dragon Pass translated into as
many languages as possible. But since it has over 462 000 words of
English text, nobody's been willing to do it. (And this ignores the
programming that would be necessary to accomodate languages with
different grammar than English, which I suspect is all of them).


David Dunham   dunham@...
Glorantha/HW/RQ page: http://www.pensee.com/dunham/glorantha.html
Imagination is more important than knowledge. -- Albert Einstein

--- In HeroWars@y..., "Grawe, Philipp" <pgrawe@t...> wrote:
> Jeff, I'm getting two copies of your mail, seperated by almost an
hour though.  Are you hitting send a second time an hour later or is
something strange going on with your mailer?
>
> Am I the only one getting two Jeffs?
>
> Harry.

I think one is more than enough.. <g>...but I'm afraid I'm getting
doubled up on the postings, too. Is poor bell canada to blame again,
Jeff?

(Though I think we do have more than one breed of Jeff if I'm not
mistaken).

-
Melanie