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#31388 From: Greg Stafford <Greg@...>
Date: Fri Sep 1, 2006 1:50 pm
Subject: Re: Need an email address, please
glorantha1
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What a dolt I am.
I'd forgottenit was a forwarded email,and not directly from him.

Thanks much Nils.

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Quoting Greg Stafford <Greg@...>:

> Sorry for intruding ont he list withthis kind of question, but can
> anyone send me (offline) the email address for John Castelucci? Thanks.
>
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#31389 From: "danhalberd" <dan@...>
Date: Fri Sep 1, 2006 4:22 pm
Subject: Re: Halberd Games Website - maps of Sartar and other Glorantha material
danhalberd
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I have added a page about the landscape features and landscape
entities of the Roundstone Clan lands (Sambari Tribe in Sartar) to
www.halbergames.com at http://www.halberdgames.com/Landscape.htm.

#31390 From: "danhalberd" <dan@...>
Date: Fri Sep 1, 2006 4:42 pm
Subject: Links in e-mail messages
danhalberd
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When I put links on messages in this group I've noticed that they
don't work on the e-mails I get back but the same links work when I
post them on Lokornos. Does anyone know why this is?

#31391 From: Gavain Sweetman <gavain.sweetman@...>
Date: Fri Sep 1, 2006 4:48 pm
Subject: Re: Links in e-mail messages
gavain773
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It looks like the link is adding an extra "." (dot) at the end of the name.
Gavain


-----  danhalberd
When I put links on messages in this group I've noticed that they
don't work on the e-mails I get back but the same links work when I
post them on Lokornos. Does anyone know why this is?

#31392 From: HeroQuest-RPG@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat Sep 2, 2006 8:10 am
Subject: File - Heroquest-rpg-rules.txt
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#31393 From: David Dunham <david@...>
Date: Sat Sep 2, 2006 5:00 pm
Subject: Re: Links in e-mail messages
alakoring
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Dan

>When I put links on messages in this group I've noticed that they
>don't work on the e-mails I get back but the same links work when I
>post them on Lokornos. Does anyone know why this is?

Probably has to do with how you choose to receive e-mails, and how
lame your e-mail client is.

The Mac OS X version of Eudora handled your last link just fine from
a Digest, correctly ignoring the period at the end.

The typical way to beat bad mail clients over the head is to enclose
a URL in angle brackets (which also takes care of line breaking), as
in <http://www.pensee.com/dunham/glorantha.html>
--

David Dunham
Glorantha/HQ/RQ page: http://www.pensee.com/dunham/glorantha.html
Imagination is more important than knowledge. -- Albert Einstein

#31394 From: donald@...
Date: Sat Sep 2, 2006 9:07 pm
Subject: Re: Links in E-mail messages
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In message <ed9mnq+3ags@eGroups.com> "danhalberd" writes:
>I have added a page about the landscape features and landscape
>entities of the Roundstone Clan lands (Sambari Tribe in Sartar) to
>www.halbergames.com at http://www.halberdgames.com/Landscape.htm.

This link won't work because of the full stop at the end. If I'm
ending a sentence with a link I put a space between the link
and the full stop. e.g.

at http://www.halberdgames.com/Landscape.htm .

Gramatically incorrect but many email packages that recognise
html assume the link continues until a space or end-of-line.

--
Donald Oddy
http://www.grove.demon.co.uk/

#31395 From: "CJ" <cj@...>
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 2:18 am
Subject: What I'd like to see (maybe interest Moon Design)
chrisjensenr...
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Hi chaps,

I don't know if Moon Designs find this sort of thing of interest or not, but
as one fairly vocal fan, I just thought I'd discuss things I am interested
in now we have ILH2. :)

* Carmanian Religion - in fact the whole society - strike me as crying out
for some sort of treatment
* Spol, and the Spolite Witches - have they ever been detailed anywhere, for
HW or HQ?  What kind of magic do they practice?
*Darjinn
*Kostaddi
So let's combine them, and just say "more on Lunar provinces."

Above all, a book on the Solar Pantheons - Jernovian (sp?), Dara Happan,
Rinliddi etc etc.  I'd really really love to see this done.  Glorious ascent
of Yelm has got me really interested in knowing more now!

Minority interests
*Prax - I'm sure there is a book on the way, but i really look forward to
this.
*Pent - possibly the one i am most interested in outside the Lunar Empire!
* Aldryami & Ducks covered more
* Delecti getting a full treatment :)



Just a  few ideas, and it's 3am here so this may be garbage, but I thought
I'd mention what my players seemed to want when we talked it through earlier
tonight.

What would other people like to see?

Finally, has anyone written a programme yet to convert ST dates to Lunar
ones and vice versa, and do the calendar conversion now we have a full Lunar
Calendar? :)  Just wondering... I might try in the future if no one else is
interested, but my programming skills are weak!

cheers
cj x

#31396 From: "Rich Crofts" <glarkhag@...>
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 4:30 am
Subject: Re: What I'd like to see (maybe interest Moon Design)
capn_willard
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>
> What would other people like to see?
>
I'd like to see more Gazetteers:

Heortland
Prax/Wastelands
Esrolia
The West
The East
Pamaltela
...

I'd like to see the equivalent of Barbarian Adventures for various
regions: Teshnos, Kralorela, Eastern Isles, various regions of
Pamaltela. BA gave a much better insight into the cultural backdrop for
Dragon Pass than the Homeland keys and What my Father says.

With this basic level of fleshing out done we might see an explosion of
finer detail for these areas from authors and fans. As it is, most of
these places are incomplete skeletons, a minimal framework on which to
pin the fruits of our imaginations.

And above all else I'd actually like to see ILH2!

Rich

#31397 From: "Roderick and Ellen Robertson" <rjremr@...>
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 4:50 am
Subject: Re: Re: What I'd like to see (maybe interest Moon Design)
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> > What would other people like to see?
> >
> I'd like to see more Gazetteers:

I'd like to see more authors, to write up all these great ideas. Unlike big
RPG companies, Moon Design and Issaries have no on-staff authors to produce
books, they rely on freelancers.

RR
C'est par mon ordre et pour le bien de l'Etat que le porteur du présent a
fait ce qu'il a fait.
- Richelieu

#31398 From: Peter Metcalfe <metcalph@...>
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 5:55 am
Subject: Re: What I'd like to see (maybe interest Moon Design)
metcalphnz
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At 02:18 p.m. 4/09/2006, you wrote:

>* Spol, and the Spolite Witches - have they ever been detailed anywhere, for
>HW or HQ?  What kind of magic do they practice?

They've not been detailed but their magic as far as I can tell would
partake of all three magic systems.

>Above all, a book on the Solar Pantheons - Jernovian (sp?), Dara Happan,
>Rinliddi etc etc.  I'd really really love to see this done.  Glorious ascent
>of Yelm has got me really interested in knowing more now!

The Jernotian Way isn't a Solar Pantheon although Idovanus is a Solar
Deity.  Its treatment probably belongs in a book about Carmania.

>Minority interests
>*Prax - I'm sure there is a book on the way, but i really look forward to
>this.

A book's been on the way for quite a few years now but is currently
stalled for god knows what reasons and the lack of feedback is a
big disincentive to do anything more.

>*Pent - possibly the one i am most interested in outside the Lunar Empire!

Sons of Kargzant may be helpful here although the Pentans are far
more diverse than the Orlanthi.

--Peter Metcalfe

#31399 From: "Rich Crofts" <glarkhag@...>
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 8:05 am
Subject: Re: What I'd like to see (maybe interest Moon Design)
capn_willard
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> They've not been detailed but their magic as far as I can tell would
> partake of all three magic systems.
>


That was one thing I forgot to list before:

I'd like to see an advanced magic book that discusses all (or at least
the more important ) of the exceptions to the three main magical
systems presented in HQ.

#31400 From: Vladimir de Saint André <v_saintandre@...>
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 7:55 am
Subject: Getting started in HQ
v_saintandre
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Hello guys,

I am starting with HQ and have now bought most of the HQ source books. I must
say I feel a bit overwhelmed by the abundances of sources do not know what I
should read first. Any idea of the possible order of readings, so that I can
construct more easily my representation of this (sometimes overly) rich world?

I have:
1001. HeroQuest
1103. Anaxial's Roster
1301. Thunder Rebels
1302. Imperial Lunar Handbook, vol.1
1305. Men of the Sea
1310. Storm Tribe
1402. Orlanth is Dead!
1403. Gathering Thunder
4502. The Complete Griselda

I also have the gods book and Gernertela from the Runequest product line
By the way, is the Hero's Book useful, especially about character generation?

Many thanks,

Vlad

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#31401 From: Peter Metcalfe <metcalph@...>
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 8:35 am
Subject: Re: Getting started in HQ
metcalphnz
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At 07:55 p.m. 4/09/2006, you wrote:
>Hello guys,
>
>I am starting with HQ and have now bought most of the HQ source
>books. I must say I feel a bit overwhelmed by the abundances of
>sources do not know what I should read first. Any idea of the
>possible order of readings, so that I can construct more easily my
>representation of this (sometimes overly) rich world?

>
>I have:
>1001. HeroQuest
>1103. Anaxial's Roster
>1301. Thunder Rebels
>1302. Imperial Lunar Handbook, vol.1
>1305. Men of the Sea
>1310. Storm Tribe
>1402. Orlanth is Dead!
>1403. Gathering Thunder
>4502. The Complete Griselda

>I also have the gods book and Gernertela from the Runequest product line

I'll start with RQ: Genertela to give an overview of the continent with
the first bit of the Cults Book from Gods of Glorantha (stop reading
when you get to the short cult writeups).  You can also look at the
What the Priests Say from Gods of Glorantha section to get an insight
into each religion.

An additional (and free!) resource is the Heroquest Voices which
expands the What the Priests say section.  Also of interest is
the Homelands section of HeroQuest.

Then you must make a choice - Lunar or Orlanthi?  Which appeals
to you most - decadence or savagery?

If you chose Orlanthi, then start with Thunder Rebels and Storm
Tribe.  I would add Barbarian Adventures but you don't have it.
Orlanth is Dead is somewhat useful and I would leave Gathering
Thunder to one side for now.

If you chose the Lunars then read Imperial Lunar Handbook volume
1.  ILH-2 would be useful save that you don't have it and I hesitate
to tell you to spend more money just yet.

Then read the HeroQuest rulebook to find out how to have fun.
Read Men of the Sea for tangential stuff on the other cultures
of Glorantha and Anaxial's Roster for the beasties.

The Complete Griselda is really useful for bringing light to a
side of Pavis which requires access to the Pavis and Big Rubble
Compendium

>By the way, is the Hero's Book useful, especially about character generation?

Hero's Book was written to clarify the Hero Wars character generation
and is somewhat useful for Heroquest but not essential.

--Peter Metcalfe

#31402 From: "Håkan Jonsson" <hajons@...>
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 8:53 am
Subject: Re: What I'd like to see (maybe interest Moon Design)
hajons
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Hi,

I would love to see a couple of books on Pavis and Big Rubble. I know Ian
Thompson had material for three books ready to be published, but for some
reason it was stopped.

/Håkan

On 9/4/06, CJ <cj@...> wrote:
>
>    Hi chaps,
>
> I don't know if Moon Designs find this sort of thing of interest or not,
> but
> as one fairly vocal fan, I just thought I'd discuss things I am interested
> in now we have ILH2. :)
>
> * Carmanian Religion - in fact the whole society - strike me as crying out
> for some sort of treatment
> * Spol, and the Spolite Witches - have they ever been detailed anywhere,
> for
> HW or HQ? What kind of magic do they practice?
> *Darjinn
> *Kostaddi
> So let's combine them, and just say "more on Lunar provinces."
>
> Above all, a book on the Solar Pantheons - Jernovian (sp?), Dara Happan,
> Rinliddi etc etc. I'd really really love to see this done. Glorious ascent
> of Yelm has got me really interested in knowing more now!
>
> Minority interests
> *Prax - I'm sure there is a book on the way, but i really look forward to
> this.
> *Pent - possibly the one i am most interested in outside the Lunar Empire!
> * Aldryami & Ducks covered more
> * Delecti getting a full treatment :)
>
> Just a few ideas, and it's 3am here so this may be garbage, but I thought
> I'd mention what my players seemed to want when we talked it through
> earlier
> tonight.
>
> What would other people like to see?
>
> Finally, has anyone written a programme yet to convert ST dates to Lunar
> ones and vice versa, and do the calendar conversion now we have a full
> Lunar
> Calendar? :) Just wondering... I might try in the future if no one else is
> interested, but my programming skills are weak!
>
> cheers
> cj x
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#31403 From: Vladimir de Saint André <v_saintandre@...>
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 9:05 am
Subject: Re : Getting started in HQ
v_saintandre
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Hi Peter,

Thanks a lot for casting some light! I had never considered playing on the Lunar
side but it could be fun, a bit, I imagine, like playing Romans at the time of
the great Roman expansion. May be somewhat less manichean than the fierce
Orlanthi fighting for freedom. I'll have to consider this. A group of Lunar
diplomats and their companions setting out through the world to unveal some
mysteries or build an alliance... A good way to offer the players the logistic
of a powerful nation for them to travel the world and enjoy the many beauties of
Glorantha!

I found the character generation a bit disturbing as it leaves it entirely up to
you compared to other games. May be the companions gives clearer guidance.

Many thanks,

Vlad.

----- Message d'origine ----
De : Peter Metcalfe <metcalph@...>
À : HeroQuest-RPG@yahoogroups.com
Envoyé le : Lundi, 4 Septembre 2006, 10h35mn 47s
Objet : Re: [HeroQuest-RPG] Getting started in HQ

At 07:55 p.m. 4/09/2006, you wrote:
>Hello guys,
>
>I am starting with HQ and have now bought most of the HQ source
>books. I must say I feel a bit overwhelmed by the abundances of
>sources do not know what I should read first. Any idea of the
>possible order of readings, so that I can construct more easily my
>representation of this (sometimes overly) rich world?

>
>I have:
>1001. HeroQuest
>1103. Anaxial's Roster
>1301. Thunder Rebels
>1302. Imperial Lunar Handbook, vol.1
>1305. Men of the Sea
>1310. Storm Tribe
>1402. Orlanth is Dead!
>1403. Gathering Thunder
>4502. The Complete Griselda

>I also have the gods book and Gernertela from the Runequest product line

I'll start with RQ: Genertela to give an overview of the continent with
the first bit of the Cults Book from Gods of Glorantha (stop reading
when you get to the short cult writeups). You can also look at the
What the Priests Say from Gods of Glorantha section to get an insight
into each religion.

An additional (and free!) resource is the Heroquest Voices which
expands the What the Priests say section. Also of interest is
the Homelands section of HeroQuest.

Then you must make a choice - Lunar or Orlanthi? Which appeals
to you most - decadence or savagery?

If you chose Orlanthi, then start with Thunder Rebels and Storm
Tribe. I would add Barbarian Adventures but you don't have it.
Orlanth is Dead is somewhat useful and I would leave Gathering
Thunder to one side for now.

If you chose the Lunars then read Imperial Lunar Handbook volume
1. ILH-2 would be useful save that you don't have it and I hesitate
to tell you to spend more money just yet.

Then read the HeroQuest rulebook to find out how to have fun.
Read Men of the Sea for tangential stuff on the other cultures
of Glorantha and Anaxial's Roster for the beasties.

The Complete Griselda is really useful for bringing light to a
side of Pavis which requires access to the Pavis and Big Rubble
Compendium

>By the way, is the Hero's Book useful, especially about character generation?

Hero's Book was written to clarify the Hero Wars character generation
and is somewhat useful for Heroquest but not essential.

--Peter Metcalfe




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#31404 From: "Rob" <robert_m_davis@...>
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 11:43 am
Subject: Re: What I'd like to see (maybe interest Moon Design)
lamorak33
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Hi

I wonder if it may have been due to the essentially 'Runequest'
ambience of the material. Pavis and the Big Rubble is arguably the
quintessential D&D type setting for Glorantha. This is not in
keeping with the style of the official material released you might
think. Some could also argue that the Heroquest rules do not really
support that kind of gaming. For example, when I ran the Cradle
scenario I could see players tire of rolling a large number of
simple contests to settle combats. This was in many ways a stark
contrast to the campaign to that point which had focused on
community and the characters relationships and their obligations.
Runequest I think makes the Cradle scenario a far more exciting
experience, in my opinion, when it really is a dramatic contest to
keep you character alive in the face of the endless multitude of
attacks. You have all these wonderfull strategic decisions to make,
concerning the conserving of Rune Magic, and power points, and when
to heal and when to rest and that kind of thing, to say nothing of
pitting yourself against the GM controlled foes and win glory for
the character and the player! I understand that is why Greg wrote it
the way he did, to make an exciting game of Runequest. I am not
convinced it is 'as good' as a Heroquest scenario having ran it with
Heroquest.

Just saying,

Regards
Rob

--- In HeroQuest-RPG@yahoogroups.com, "Håkan Jonsson" <hajons@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I would love to see a couple of books on Pavis and Big Rubble. I
know Ian
> Thompson had material for three books ready to be published, but
for some
> reason it was stopped.
>
> /Håkan
>
> On 9/4/06, CJ <cj@...> wrote:
> >
> >    Hi chaps,
> >
> > I don't know if Moon Designs find this sort of thing of interest
or not,
> > but
> > as one fairly vocal fan, I just thought I'd discuss things I am
interested
> > in now we have ILH2. :)
> >
> > * Carmanian Religion - in fact the whole society - strike me as
crying out
> > for some sort of treatment
> > * Spol, and the Spolite Witches - have they ever been detailed
anywhere,
> > for
> > HW or HQ? What kind of magic do they practice?
> > *Darjinn
> > *Kostaddi
> > So let's combine them, and just say "more on Lunar provinces."
> >
> > Above all, a book on the Solar Pantheons - Jernovian (sp?), Dara
Happan,
> > Rinliddi etc etc. I'd really really love to see this done.
Glorious ascent
> > of Yelm has got me really interested in knowing more now!
> >
> > Minority interests
> > *Prax - I'm sure there is a book on the way, but i really look
forward to
> > this.
> > *Pent - possibly the one i am most interested in outside the
Lunar Empire!
> > * Aldryami & Ducks covered more
> > * Delecti getting a full treatment :)
> >
> > Just a few ideas, and it's 3am here so this may be garbage, but
I thought
> > I'd mention what my players seemed to want when we talked it
through
> > earlier
> > tonight.
> >
> > What would other people like to see?
> >
> > Finally, has anyone written a programme yet to convert ST dates
to Lunar
> > ones and vice versa, and do the calendar conversion now we have
a full
> > Lunar
> > Calendar? :) Just wondering... I might try in the future if no
one else is
> > interested, but my programming skills are weak!
> >
> > cheers
> > cj x
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#31405 From: Peter Metcalfe <metcalph@...>
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 11:47 am
Subject: Re : Getting started in HQ
metcalphnz
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At 09:05 p.m. 4/09/2006, you wrote:

>I found the character generation a bit disturbing as it leaves it
>entirely up to you compared to other games. May be the companions
>gives clearer guidance.

The ability rating pretty much levels things out.  You can begin with
a flying character
who fires lightning bolts but his attack is no more effective than
that of another
beginning hero with a plain sword.

--Peter Metcalfe

#31406 From: "Rob" <robert_m_davis@...>
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 11:46 am
Subject: Re: Re : Getting started in HQ
lamorak33
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Hi

Yes, that was a great summary by Peter.

Vlad, I was interested to hear your views on character creation. Why
don't you start a thread on the rules list. We can discuss your
concerns their as its a rules issue. I'd like to discover why you
hold that particular view. I had that feeling myself at first, but
now find the character creation method one of the absolute best
things about the rules system!

Cheers,
Rob

--- In HeroQuest-RPG@yahoogroups.com, Vladimir de Saint André
<v_saintandre@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> Thanks a lot for casting some light! I had never considered
playing on the Lunar side but it could be fun, a bit, I imagine,
like playing Romans at the time of the great Roman expansion. May be
somewhat less manichean than the fierce Orlanthi fighting for
freedom. I'll have to consider this. A group of Lunar diplomats and
their companions setting out through the world to unveal some
mysteries or build an alliance... A good way to offer the players
the logistic of a powerful nation for them to travel the world and
enjoy the many beauties of Glorantha!
>
> I found the character generation a bit disturbing as it leaves it
entirely up to you compared to other games. May be the companions
gives clearer guidance.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Vlad.
>
> ----- Message d'origine ----
> De : Peter Metcalfe <metcalph@...>
> À : HeroQuest-RPG@yahoogroups.com
> Envoyé le : Lundi, 4 Septembre 2006, 10h35mn 47s
> Objet : Re: [HeroQuest-RPG] Getting started in HQ
>
> At 07:55 p.m. 4/09/2006, you wrote:
> >Hello guys,
> >
> >I am starting with HQ and have now bought most of the HQ source
> >books. I must say I feel a bit overwhelmed by the abundances of
> >sources do not know what I should read first. Any idea of the
> >possible order of readings, so that I can construct more easily
my
> >representation of this (sometimes overly) rich world?
>
> >
> >I have:
> >1001. HeroQuest
> >1103. Anaxial's Roster
> >1301. Thunder Rebels
> >1302. Imperial Lunar Handbook, vol.1
> >1305. Men of the Sea
> >1310. Storm Tribe
> >1402. Orlanth is Dead!
> >1403. Gathering Thunder
> >4502. The Complete Griselda
>
> >I also have the gods book and Gernertela from the Runequest
product line
>
> I'll start with RQ: Genertela to give an overview of the continent
with
> the first bit of the Cults Book from Gods of Glorantha (stop
reading
> when you get to the short cult writeups). You can also look at the
> What the Priests Say from Gods of Glorantha section to get an
insight
> into each religion.
>
> An additional (and free!) resource is the Heroquest Voices which
> expands the What the Priests say section. Also of interest is
> the Homelands section of HeroQuest.
>
> Then you must make a choice - Lunar or Orlanthi? Which appeals
> to you most - decadence or savagery?
>
> If you chose Orlanthi, then start with Thunder Rebels and Storm
> Tribe. I would add Barbarian Adventures but you don't have it.
> Orlanth is Dead is somewhat useful and I would leave Gathering
> Thunder to one side for now.
>
> If you chose the Lunars then read Imperial Lunar Handbook volume
> 1. ILH-2 would be useful save that you don't have it and I hesitate
> to tell you to spend more money just yet.
>
> Then read the HeroQuest rulebook to find out how to have fun.
> Read Men of the Sea for tangential stuff on the other cultures
> of Glorantha and Anaxial's Roster for the beasties.
>
> The Complete Griselda is really useful for bringing light to a
> side of Pavis which requires access to the Pavis and Big Rubble
> Compendium
>
> >By the way, is the Hero's Book useful, especially about character
generation?
>
> Hero's Book was written to clarify the Hero Wars character
generation
> and is somewhat useful for Heroquest but not essential.
>
> --Peter Metcalfe
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#31407 From: Peter Metcalfe <metcalph@...>
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 12:33 pm
Subject: Re: Re: What I'd like to see (maybe interest Moon Design)
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At 11:43 p.m. 4/09/2006, you wrote:

>I wonder if it may have been due to the essentially 'Runequest'
>ambience of the material. Pavis and the Big Rubble is arguably the
>quintessential D&D type setting for Glorantha.

It may have originated as D&D type setting but the Big Rubble is
still capable of being a setting for heroic roleplaying.  The feeling
I had with Ian's material is that he never quite made the conceptual
leap between the two, such as detailed descriptions of mundane
obstacles including the contests necessary to overcome them.

A trap-filled room or complex could have easily been reduced
by giving it an ability of fiendishly trapped 15W (say).  When
the Heroes attempt to plunder it, all that would have been needed
to do was to play it as an extended contest with the complex's
attacks being various nasties from the Indiana Jones movies
(Leap of Faith, Huge Ball, Snakes etc).  The treasure could
likewise be reduced to ancient pavic artefacts (wealth 5w)
with only a significant magical object per complex.  For
additional effort, a hero could use his Pavic Lore on his
swag of looted artefacts to find something immediately useful
in his predicament (ie an ancient scroll with an incantation
to dismiss zombies).

>Some could also argue that the Heroquest rules do not really
>support that kind of gaming. For example, when I ran the Cradle
>scenario I could see players tire of rolling a large number of
>simple contests to settle combats.

The Cradle's problem is that throughout the scenario the aim
is just to defend the cradle with the interesting stuff taking
place off-stage.  If I were to do it in Heroquest, I would have
made the player heroes able to control the Cradle's motion
but they have to figure out how to use the giant girl's toys
in order to overcome the many obstacles.  In addition, there
will be a subplot involving Garrath.  Does he want to turn
the cradle over to Harrek the Beserk at the end?  If so, he
will seek to stop the heroes from becoming too attached to
the cradle by forbidding them to investigate the toys and
so forth with an attempt to buy them off with gold once
Corflu has been passed.

--Peter Metcalfe

#31408 From: "Håkan Jonsson" <hajons@...>
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 12:48 pm
Subject: Re: Re: What I'd like to see (maybe interest Moon Design)
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Hi,

I am not looking for a HQ revamp of the old RQ material. It seems to me that
Pavis is an excellent growing ground for heroes too, not just adventurers.

/Håkan

On 9/4/06, Rob <robert_m_davis@...> wrote:
>
>   Hi
>
> I wonder if it may have been due to the essentially 'Runequest'
> ambience of the material. Pavis and the Big Rubble is arguably the
> quintessential D&D type setting for Glorantha. This is not in
> keeping with the style of the official material released you might
> think. Some could also argue that the Heroquest rules do not really
> support that kind of gaming. For example, when I ran the Cradle
> scenario I could see players tire of rolling a large number of
> simple contests to settle combats. This was in many ways a stark
> contrast to the campaign to that point which had focused on
> community and the characters relationships and their obligations.
> Runequest I think makes the Cradle scenario a far more exciting
> experience, in my opinion, when it really is a dramatic contest to
> keep you character alive in the face of the endless multitude of
> attacks. You have all these wonderfull strategic decisions to make,
> concerning the conserving of Rune Magic, and power points, and when
> to heal and when to rest and that kind of thing, to say nothing of
> pitting yourself against the GM controlled foes and win glory for
> the character and the player! I understand that is why Greg wrote it
> the way he did, to make an exciting game of Runequest. I am not
> convinced it is 'as good' as a Heroquest scenario having ran it with
> Heroquest.
>
> Just saying,
>
> Regards
> Rob
>
> --- In HeroQuest-RPG@yahoogroups.com <HeroQuest-RPG%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Håkan Jonsson" <hajons@...>
>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would love to see a couple of books on Pavis and Big Rubble. I
> know Ian
> > Thompson had material for three books ready to be published, but
> for some
> > reason it was stopped.
> >
> > /Håkan
> >
> > On 9/4/06, CJ <cj@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi chaps,
> > >
> > > I don't know if Moon Designs find this sort of thing of interest
> or not,
> > > but
> > > as one fairly vocal fan, I just thought I'd discuss things I am
> interested
> > > in now we have ILH2. :)
> > >
> > > * Carmanian Religion - in fact the whole society - strike me as
> crying out
> > > for some sort of treatment
> > > * Spol, and the Spolite Witches - have they ever been detailed
> anywhere,
> > > for
> > > HW or HQ? What kind of magic do they practice?
> > > *Darjinn
> > > *Kostaddi
> > > So let's combine them, and just say "more on Lunar provinces."
> > >
> > > Above all, a book on the Solar Pantheons - Jernovian (sp?), Dara
> Happan,
> > > Rinliddi etc etc. I'd really really love to see this done.
> Glorious ascent
> > > of Yelm has got me really interested in knowing more now!
> > >
> > > Minority interests
> > > *Prax - I'm sure there is a book on the way, but i really look
> forward to
> > > this.
> > > *Pent - possibly the one i am most interested in outside the
> Lunar Empire!
> > > * Aldryami & Ducks covered more
> > > * Delecti getting a full treatment :)
> > >
> > > Just a few ideas, and it's 3am here so this may be garbage, but
> I thought
> > > I'd mention what my players seemed to want when we talked it
> through
> > > earlier
> > > tonight.
> > >
> > > What would other people like to see?
> > >
> > > Finally, has anyone written a programme yet to convert ST dates
> to Lunar
> > > ones and vice versa, and do the calendar conversion now we have
> a full
> > > Lunar
> > > Calendar? :) Just wondering... I might try in the future if no
> one else is
> > > interested, but my programming skills are weak!
> > >
> > > cheers
> > > cj x
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>


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#31409 From: "CJ" <cj@...>
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 1:23 pm
Subject: Writing for HeroWuest (and Questworlds)
chrisjensenr...
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>
> I'd like to see more authors, to write up all these great ideas. Unlike
big
> RPG companies, Moon Design and Issaries have no on-staff authors to
produce
> books, they rely on freelancers.
>

I can see you point. I have written a couple of rpg books - The
Parapsychologist's Handbook monograph for Call of Cthulhu, and (with Neil)
The Mysteries Revised Edition for Ars Magica.  I've two more rpg books
awaiting publication, but NDA etc means I can say nothing on those
http://www.pen-paper.net/rpgdb.php?op=showcreator&creatorid=12126
So yes I'd be keen to contribute to Glorantha, in fact I would love to...

However, a whole book?  Well, there is forty years worth of writing on
Glorantha, and while I have no seen all the official HW/HQ material and
posess I think all the official RQ2/3 material concerning Glorantha, I am
still in the process of reading and learning from the Pre-Finished Works,
(I've seen most of them I think now), and when I see the level of Gloranthan
scholarship on this list, and on Glorantha list, I usually feel quite
ignorant. I also suspectthere may be more Gloranthan lore I am just not
privy to, published in formats I may be unaware of?

I'd love to write for the line, and am used to working to deadlines, and
have good reviews for my rpg writing to date, and yet so far have felt so
intimidated by my relative lack of knowledge I have not even considered fan
publications like zines.  Surely this is the real problem with writing for
Glorantha?

Incidentally, a few years ago I did click on the "Write for Glorantha" link
on the webpage, and fired off an e-mail volunteering to work on ANY project
which would take me as a collaborator, or write a pitch, but I never had a
response. I shrugged, and concentrated on other lines, as I was not sure I
had the requisite Gloranthan lore to provide a good book at that time.

Still, I'm still interested in writing to support HQ, or Questworlds, but I
can't find any way to even apply to assist the Questworlds project?  Is
Questworlds Issaries now, or Reaching Moon - that is who will ultimately
publish it?

Anyway if anyone is at all interested, I have some spare time and would be
happy to try.  I think some concrete suggestions about how to pitch, who to,
and what is expected of authors might do much to provide a fresh influx of
writers, but if the market demand is not there, well I suppose things will
stay slow.  I'm not going to moan about lack of new material, but I'd love
to see more, even if I have to write it. :)

All the best
cj x

#31410 From: "Rob" <robert_m_davis@...>
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 1:40 pm
Subject: Re: Pavis, old and new [was: What I'd like to see (maybe interest Moon Design)]
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Hi

I also agree that Pavis and the Big Rubble are capable of being a
setting that is more in keeping with the current official style of
Heroquest. There does seem to be an inherent hangover in style
though for this setting. Perhaps it is this which is holding up
Chris and his work on Prax?

FWIW I think that the most applicable of all the RQ settings is
Borderlands and Griffin Mountain, although with much work from the
GM and an effort not just to present them as Runequest scenario's
using Heroquest rules, which as I say is a mistake in my opinion, as
you can't out-Runequest Runequest with Heroquest. You have to focus
on character, community and relationships to evoke the setting.

I have to say one of favourite works was the second age Pavis book.
Will mongoose be visiting this I wonder?

Regards
Rob

#31411 From: "Rob" <robert_m_davis@...>
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 1:47 pm
Subject: Re: Writing for HeroWuest (and Questworlds)
lamorak33
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Holy moly Write to Rick, CJ!!! If you are a published writer then
get on with it! I'm sure you will get edited and get loads of
feedback I am sure. Think of all the hidden esotera that will be
made available to you to assist you. That seems to be where the
unfinished works come from. Hey but I can't wait to have in my
collection something written by you dude! Crack on! :^)

What are the areas that most inspire you? (so we know what to look
forward to)

Regards
Rob


--- In HeroQuest-RPG@yahoogroups.com, "CJ" <cj@...> wrote:
>
>
> >
> > I'd like to see more authors, to write up all these great ideas.
Unlike
> big
> > RPG companies, Moon Design and Issaries have no on-staff authors
to
> produce
> > books, they rely on freelancers.
> >
>
> I can see you point. I have written a couple of rpg books - The
> Parapsychologist's Handbook monograph for Call of Cthulhu, and
(with Neil)
> The Mysteries Revised Edition for Ars Magica.  I've two more rpg
books
> awaiting publication, but NDA etc means I can say nothing on those
> http://www.pen-paper.net/rpgdb.php?op=showcreator&creatorid=12126
> So yes I'd be keen to contribute to Glorantha, in fact I would
love to...
>
> However, a whole book?  Well, there is forty years worth of
writing on
> Glorantha, and while I have no seen all the official HW/HQ
material and
> posess I think all the official RQ2/3 material concerning
Glorantha, I am
> still in the process of reading and learning from the Pre-Finished
Works,
> (I've seen most of them I think now), and when I see the level of
Gloranthan
> scholarship on this list, and on Glorantha list, I usually feel
quite
> ignorant. I also suspectthere may be more Gloranthan lore I am
just not
> privy to, published in formats I may be unaware of?
>
> I'd love to write for the line, and am used to working to
deadlines, and
> have good reviews for my rpg writing to date, and yet so far have
felt so
> intimidated by my relative lack of knowledge I have not even
considered fan
> publications like zines.  Surely this is the real problem with
writing for
> Glorantha?
>
> Incidentally, a few years ago I did click on the "Write for
Glorantha" link
> on the webpage, and fired off an e-mail volunteering to work on
ANY project
> which would take me as a collaborator, or write a pitch, but I
never had a
> response. I shrugged, and concentrated on other lines, as I was
not sure I
> had the requisite Gloranthan lore to provide a good book at that
time.
>
> Still, I'm still interested in writing to support HQ, or
Questworlds, but I
> can't find any way to even apply to assist the Questworlds
project?  Is
> Questworlds Issaries now, or Reaching Moon - that is who will
ultimately
> publish it?
>
> Anyway if anyone is at all interested, I have some spare time and
would be
> happy to try.  I think some concrete suggestions about how to
pitch, who to,
> and what is expected of authors might do much to provide a fresh
influx of
> writers, but if the market demand is not there, well I suppose
things will
> stay slow.  I'm not going to moan about lack of new material, but
I'd love
> to see more, even if I have to write it. :)
>
> All the best
> cj x
>

#31412 From: "Roderick and Ellen Robertson" <rjremr@...>
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 3:51 pm
Subject: Re: Writing for HeroWuest (and Questworlds)
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> I can see you point. I have written a couple of rpg books - The
> Parapsychologist's Handbook monograph for Call of Cthulhu, and (with Neil)
> The Mysteries Revised Edition for Ars Magica.  I've two more rpg books

Youngster. :-). I was writing Ars Magica back in '90. Why in my day, we had
to hand-crush our own inks, make our own vellum, and send boxes of pages of
text off to White Wolf, instead of a diskette.

> However, a whole book?  Well, there is forty years worth of writing on
> Glorantha, and while I have no seen all the official HW/HQ material and
> posess I think all the official RQ2/3 material concerning Glorantha, I am
> still in the process of reading and learning from the Pre-Finished Works,
> (I've seen most of them I think now), and when I see the level of
Gloranthan
> scholarship on this list, and on Glorantha list, I usually feel quite
> ignorant. I also suspectthere may be more Gloranthan lore I am just not
> privy to, published in formats I may be unaware of?

It certainly doesn't have to be a whole book - I don't think any Heroquest
product has been a 1-man show (Some Hero*Wars* products were). Collaboration
is the name of the game, baby. You do tend to get access to unpublished
material, especially if you're nice to Greg :-).

> I'd love to write for the line, and am used to working to deadlines, and
> have good reviews for my rpg writing to date, and yet so far have felt so
> intimidated by my relative lack of knowledge I have not even considered
fan
> publications like zines.  Surely this is the real problem with writing for
> Glorantha?

Here's a secret, just between us - writers make it up all the time! Shh,
don't tell anyone. That's right, all that detail, all those one-off
rferences to things that happened in the past - all made up, quite often by
not-Greg. True, you might find that you've over-written some piece of
esoterica that was written about in Sorcerer's Scroll #11 back in '84, but
so what? Different story from siumialr people, same story from different
people, all is truth.

> Incidentally, a few years ago I did click on the "Write for Glorantha"
link
> on the webpage, and fired off an e-mail volunteering to work on ANY
project
> which would take me as a collaborator, or write a pitch, but I never had a
> response. I shrugged, and concentrated on other lines, as I was not sure I
> had the requisite Gloranthan lore to provide a good book at that time.

Try writing Mark, and instead of "OI want to work with whoever will have me"
try "I'd like to write about XYZ." If there is already a book on XYZ, he
might put you in touch with the authors, if not, he might say "Start
writing".

> Still, I'm still interested in writing to support HQ, or Questworlds, but
I
> can't find any way to even apply to assist the Questworlds project?  Is
> Questworlds Issaries now, or Reaching Moon - that is who will ultimately
> publish it?

Dunno. Greg? Rick?

> Anyway if anyone is at all interested, I have some spare time and would be
> happy to try.  I think some concrete suggestions about how to pitch, who
to,
> and what is expected of authors might do much to provide a fresh influx of
> writers, but if the market demand is not there, well I suppose things will
> stay slow.  I'm not going to moan about lack of new material, but I'd love
> to see more, even if I have to write it. :)

Good attitude.

RR
C'est par mon ordre et pour le bien de l'Etat que le porteur du présent a
fait ce qu'il a fait.
- Richelieu

#31413 From: donald@...
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 3:41 pm
Subject: Re: Writing for HeroWuest (and Questworlds)
donaldroddy
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In message <000e01c6d025$5bab05e0$42602e52@lisa> "CJ" writes:

>However, a whole book?  Well, there is forty years worth of writing on
>Glorantha, and while I have no seen all the official HW/HQ material and
>posess I think all the official RQ2/3 material concerning Glorantha, I am
>still in the process of reading and learning from the Pre-Finished Works,
>(I've seen most of them I think now), and when I see the level of Gloranthan
>scholarship on this list, and on Glorantha list, I usually feel quite
>ignorant. I also suspectthere may be more Gloranthan lore I am just not
>privy to, published in formats I may be unaware of?

Well not many people have seen everything published about Glorantha
and I doubt those who have can remember all of it. If you're look at
what's published it is almost all about a tiny part of the world. So
as soon as you decide on the topic you're immediately reduced to a
manageable list. You then find just how many gaps there are and ask
on this list or the Glorantha digest if anyone has any relevant
campaign notes or similar they're prepared to share. That'll also
bring to light the obscure stuff because someone will remember an
article published ten years ago in some magazine or con book
which is relevant. If no one remembers it, it was either not very
good or as been superceeded.

--
Donald Oddy
http://www.grove.demon.co.uk/

#31414 From: Benedict Adamson <yahoo@...>
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 8:17 pm
Subject: Re: What I'd like to see (maybe interest Moon Design)
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Peter Metcalfe wrote:
...
> [The Spolites] not been detailed but their magic as far as I can tell would
> partake of all three magic systems.

Gerra is the 'Spolite' aspect of Sedenya, if you get my drift. Ostvestir
is described as a spirit. The meagre evidence we have suggests to me
that Spolitism is animist.

...
> The Jernotian Way isn't a Solar Pantheon although Idovanus is a Solar
> Deity.  Its treatment probably belongs in a book about Carmania.

Another Hierophantic plot to return all Pelanda to Carmanian domination!
Technically a separate pantheon, and so presented in ILH1, but if it
were published, no doubt they would both be in a book on western Peloria.

...
> Sons of Kargzant may be helpful here although the Pentans are far
> more diverse than the Orlanthi.
...

They are? The sources I've seen present them rather uniformly. What
makes you say this?

#31415 From: Brian Curley <bkcurley@...>
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 8:08 pm
Subject: Re: What I'd like to see (maybe interest Moon Design)
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What I'd like to see is... oh, "Dragon Rise" maybe?!?

#31416 From: Paul King <paul@...>
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 8:28 pm
Subject: Re: Re: What I'd like to see (maybe interest Moon Design)
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On 4 Sep 2006, at 21:08, Brian Curley wrote:

> What I'd like to see is... oh, "Dragon Rise" maybe?!?
>
At Continuum Greg was talking about doing the whole "King of Sartar"
story line in the style of "The Great Pendragon Campaign".  I think
that I'd prefer that to DragonRise.

#31417 From: "Osentalka" <Osentalka@...>
Date: Mon Sep 4, 2006 9:10 pm
Subject: Re: Re: What I'd like to see (maybe interest Moon Design)
osentalka
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As far as i understood Rick and Greg at Tentacles and Continuum "Sartar
Rising IV - Rising the Dragon" will not see print.
Instead Rick wants to make Greg write some kind of "The Great Argrath
Campaign".

IMHO they should publish Sartar Rising IV anyway. That would be a good end
to the first decade of the Sartar story. "The Great Argrath Campaign" could
cover the time from 1614 to 1655 anyway. :-)




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> What I'd like to see is... oh, "Dragon Rise" maybe?!?
>

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