Yeah, i think it's a pretty interesting debate, although I must admit it probably won't result in any answers or conclusions. At the end of the day, science or...
An eloquent argument Uka. I would argue that, although your theories of intuition have a minor role in playing a better game, for the most part I would assert...
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In the recent (long) thread we saw some members advocating a strategy of intuition and hunches to maximize euchre success. But the principles of game theory...
Hell yes, intuition and instinct is admittedly a part of euchre. That cannot be denied and I don't believe it has been in any part of this discussion. But it...
I have yet to be convinced there's such a thing as "optimal strategy." If anything, it seems to me to be a moving target and as such can not be accurately...
... strategy." You're losing 6-9 and dealing - in your hand you have Jc Js AKc 9d - upcard Qc - 1st, 2nd and 3rd all pass. Surely optimal results will occur if...
And this is supposed to convince me what exactly? This proves nothing other than 1st should have donated and then my only strategic mistake would be to not...
... nothing other than 1st should have donated and then my only strategic mistake would be to not discard the 9d and renege when diamonds are led. ... In this...
By definition there is an optimal strategy. You can disagree what that optimal stratgey is but when you're talking "in the long run" there must be a strategy...
It's an interesting lead, and it's been an interesting discussion; but let's look at some undiscussed aspects. Why did the dealer's partner order, leading 9 to...
Well, at least we've found something that we can both agree on. Players that are constantly departing from what is considered "best play" are doomed 2 suffer...
That's the best response I've seen yet. I agree completely, there is no constant "optimal strategy" Let's just say that there is an optimal strategy. Then...
The Guy who ordered, well he had the left and the KQ of spades. He had no offsuit aces, so he ordered with 3 naked trump. My partner had 1 trump the Ace, and...
Oh yeah, I also agree with u about players who feel the need to always donate. the worst is the guys that donate early on in a game. It ruins the whole game,...
I would agree with that, although u would have to agree that defining what that optimal strategy is a near-impossible task. Ok for somne situations it's easy....
Let me take another stab at this from a different direction. You're right! Picking up the Queen and discarding the Nine in that particular hand is an optimal...
If a pitcher throws a batter two sliders, and the batter swings and misses at both of them, what's the optimal strategy for the batter on the next pitch?...
... But we did not learn any of this until now -- after at least 30 posts in the thread. And it's irrelevant. All hindsight. Still anecdotal. Whatever "three...
Yeah, i didnt explain exactly what every player held. However i did state that after revisity the hand at gerry's euchre lab, that there was only 1 play that...
You have expressed a mouthful which reeks of an attempt to twist the typically understood definition of strategy, per the euchre discussion here. While your...
The nature of an optimal strategy is that even if your opponent knows what you are going to do they can't improve their result in the long run. Take the Next...
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Why do you guys keep giving me the no-brainer hands as examples of optimal strategy? Is there really that much strategy involved in either of these hands?...
... optimal strategy? At least we are getting somewhere. Twenty one posts prior to your last post, you were in denial that optimal strategy is even possible. ...
... optimal strategy? Is there really that much strategy involved in either of these hands? It's either do the obvious or the absurd. Tough choice! Now, if...
We (or you) have accomplished nothing other than finding fault with the exact words I chose for my challenge. I haven't budged a bit. Give me a tough hand...