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Re: [EuchreScience] How much does cheating at euchre matter?

Re: I approximate that when a great team plays an average team the great team should expect to win only about 70 games in
100.
 
I have studied this question thoroughly.   The percentage is 65% (+ or - 2 %).  I did a lot of research on yahoo.  Of those players that were over 65% I could determine (as best I can recall now) about 75% of them cheated.  I determined cheating as they won 20 to 70% of their games because their partner forfeited.  Of course, I can not establish more subtle methords of cheating.
 
A player who can win 65% on the time in yahoo in a 1 in 1000 players.
 
(Naturally, a player who always plays very good players could be a 1 in 1000 player but this could be established up in his yahoo stats)
 
It is more difficult to interpret the stats now because yahoo no longer keeps a complete history of every game as they once did.

ruthenium4 <thejoggler@...> wrote:
Since euchre has such a high element of luck, I wonder if a cheating
team is playing a non-cheating team of equal skill level, how often
(in 100 games) would the cheating team win? How much does cheating
matter?

And when I say a "cheating team" I limit it to the only kind of
cheating you can do on Yahoo! Namely, signaling your cards.

I approximate that when a great team plays an average team (neither
cheating) the great team should expect to win only about 70 games in
100. I'd expect that a cheating team wouldn't be able to do much
better than this.



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Since euchre has such a high element of luck, I wonder if a cheating team is playing a non-cheating team of equal skill level, how often (in 100 games) would...
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I believe you are exactly right. I get disgusted by the 'hummmmm' typed at times when I have an exceptional hand. It's my thinking that those accusing are...
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Re: I approximate that when a great team plays an average team the great team should expect to win only about 70 games in 100. I have studied this question...
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A more effective online cheating method would be to play with your partner online and set up an IM session through something like Gmail, AIM, or Trillian and...
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A more effective online cheating method would be to play with your partner online and set up an IM session through something like Gmail, AIM, or Trillian and...
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A more effective online cheating method would be to play with your partner online and set up an IM session through something like Gmail, AIM, or Trillian and...
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A more effective online cheating method would be to play with your partner online and set up an IM session through something like Gmail, AIM, or Trillian and...
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A more effective online cheating method would be to play with your partner online and set up an IM session through something like Gmail, AIM, or Trillian and...
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Gee, Perry, have you not heard of the telephone? It's been around since 1876. And, in my limited experience at cheating on line, it's still far ahead of all...
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Phones? People still use those? wow. I thought those went the way of the Audion Tube. Weird. People still 'em. hmm. I suppose my nefarious mind was too...
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... "I approximate that when a great team plays an average team (neithercheating) the great team should expect to win only about 70 games in 100." I'm not so...
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... "I approximate that when a great team plays an average team (neithercheating) the great team should expect to win only about 70 games in 100." I'm not so...
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... "I approximate that when a great team plays an average team (neithercheating) the great team should expect to win only about 70 games in 100." I'm not so...
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... "I approximate that when a great team plays an average team (neithercheating) the great team should expect to win only about 70 games in 100." I'm not so...
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Your stats don't hold up to reality. I challenge you find ANY yahoo euchre player with more then 300 games played that has won 70% or more of their games. I...
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... euchre player with more then 300 games played that has won 70% or more of their games. ... played only about 180 games. ... will be extremely surprised. ...
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... euchre player with more then 300 games played that has won 70% or more of their games. ... played only about 180 games. ... will be extremely surprised. ...
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I think we had a misunderstanding about what each other has writting. (Not uncommon) Reading this email... I think we are in agreement. Sword ... * ????...
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Your stats don't hold up to reality. I challenge you find ANY yahoo euchre player with more then 300 games played that has won 70% or more of their games. I...
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... "I approximate that when a great team plays an average team (neithercheating) the great team should expect to win only about 70 games in 100." I'm not so...
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