Thanks :-
Many thanks to the PAWS club for running an afternoon of DBA fun yesterday. A
thinner turnout than some previous events, but well worth attending.  Colin
O'Shea won the day, with Martin Myers fighting him long and hard in the final.

WHY oh WHY ???
I was planning to scribble a few lines for Slingshot, with an angle on the
armies used for this particular tournament. To this end, can I ask those who
played to give me an idea about their own army choice. Hints at areas I'd hope
to cover are as follows :-

What army did you take to the English DBA Open this year?
Why did you choose that army?
How did it perform ? In what ways did it do well for you, and where did you feel
it let you down?
Would you use that army again?
Any general comments on the day?

Please e.mail to smiffft@...

Thanks
Martin

So far' I've had no 25mm entries.

If you are planning on turning up on Sunday at 9 o'clock hoping to play 25 mm,
it might be sensible to bring a 15 mm army as well in case the 25 mm tournament
doesn't happen.

Bill

--- In English_DBA_Open@yahoogroups.com, "Bill MacGillivray"
<william.macgillivray@...> wrote:
>
> Only one week to go, the 2009 Open is next Sunday the 18th.
>
> You can still enter by sending the entry form, which can be downloaded from
http://uk.geocities.com/paws_sec/2009_English_DBA_Open.htm
>
> It will be possible to enter on the day but please let me know first so that
we have some idea of how many to expect.
>
> Bill MacGillivray
>

Details and entry forms for the English DBA Open can now be found at
http://uk.geocities.com/paws_sec/2009_English_DBA_Open.htm

There will also be an informal "Six-Nations" National Teams tornament on the
Saturday Afternoon. Details can be found in the Fanaticus forums.

Details for the 2009 English DBA Open can now be found at
http://uk.geocities.com/paws_sec/

You can download entry forms from there or from the files area of this group.

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Thanks Bill.

Sorry for double posting, thought I had not sent the first.
With four of us likely to come from Alvechurch, by date allows us to split
ourselves up a bit.

David Constable

--- In English_DBA_Open@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <william.macgillivray@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In English_DBA_Open@yahoogroups.com, "David John Constable" <djconst2003@>
wrote:
> >
> > I see the rules are likely to be the same as 2008, however are you planning
too keep the same format of organizing the groups by date, so section one does
not meet section four (as far as possible).
> >
> > David Constable
>
> Yes, unless someone can suggest a better way of organising the groups.
>
> I know Phil Barker was critical of the groups-by-date format as it meant he
didn't face all the historical opponents that turned up but he failed to offer
any alternative that would work.
>
> Bill
>

--- In English_DBA_Open@yahoogroups.com, "David John Constable"
<djconst2003@...> wrote:
>
> I see the rules are likely to be the same as 2008, however are you planning
too keep the same format of organizing the groups by date, so section one does
not meet section four (as far as possible).
>
> David Constable

Yes, unless someone can suggest a better way of organising the groups.

I know Phil Barker was critical of the groups-by-date format as it meant he
didn't face all the historical opponents that turned up but he failed to offer
any alternative that would work.

Bill

I see the rules are likely to be the same as 2008, however are you planning too
keep the same format of organizing the groups by date, so section one does not
meet section four (as far as possible).

David Constable

Hello

Now we know the date for the English Open DBA will it be organized the same as
last year by army date.
Preventing section one armies playing section four etc in the initial rounds?

David Constable


--- In English_DBA_Open@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <william.macgillivray@...>
wrote:
>
> The date for the 2009 English DBA Open was decided yesterday.
>
> It will be held on Sunday 18th October 2009, at the same venue in
> Southsea as the last three years. Format is likely to be the same at
> the 2008 tournament.
>
> Bill
>
> ps, for anyone interested, we also run three Saturday afternoon, themed
> 15mm DBA tournaments. This year these will be:
>
> PAWS Spring DBA - Saturday 7th March 2009
> PAWS Summer DBA - Saturday 13th June 2009
> PAWS Autumn DBA - Saturday 26th September 2009
> PAWS Winter DBA - Saturday 5th December 2009
>

Just a prompt :- the Alvechurch Templars are again holding the Midlands DBA
tournament, in Alvechurch, just south of Birmingham / north of Redditch. It's on
17th May, with a 10 a.m. start time.
Note, it's Book I II or III only, i.e. no Bk IV/medievals.
See the News and Notices section of the Fanaticus site for more details 
http://www.fanaticus.org/discussion/showthread.php?t=7907

Cheers
Martin

The date for the 2009 English DBA Open was decided yesterday.

It will be held on Sunday 18th October 2009, at the same venue in
Southsea as the last three years. Format is likely to be the same at
the 2008 tournament.

Bill

ps, for anyone interested, we also run three Saturday afternoon, themed
15mm DBA tournaments. This year these will be:

PAWS Spring DBA - Saturday 7th March 2009
PAWS Summer DBA - Saturday 13th June 2009
PAWS Autumn DBA - Saturday 26th September 2009
PAWS Winter DBA - Saturday 5th December 2009

Hi all.
Al Davison, organiser of the Welsh DBA Open, has confirmed that it
will take place  on the 31st January 2009, at the Crusade show in
Penarth, just west of Cardiff (easy access from M4 without passing
through the city). Registration is from 10 a.m. as the show opens,
with a planned start by 11 a.m. .
Further details are posted on Fanaticus (www.fanaticus.org) in the
News and Notices section.
Cheers
Martin and Aislinn

Seconded!

The battles on Sunday were my first wargames for several years; it
was great to get back into the hobby after time away in such an
enjoyable event.

Andrew



--- In English_DBA_Open@yahoogroups.com, "nikgaukroger"
<nikgaukroger@...> wrote:
>
> Great event as ever guys - many many thanks for organising it.
> Congratulations to the winners.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Nik Gaukroger
>

Great event as ever guys - many many thanks for organising it.
Congratulations to the winners.


Cheers,


Nik Gaukroger

Entry for 25mm went into the post yesterday.

Andrew


-----Original Message-----
From: English_DBA_Open@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Bill
Sent: Wed 15/10/2008 20:21
To: English_DBA_Open@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [English_DBA_Open] The English DBA Open is this Sunday - still time
to enter

Hi all,

Just a reminder (if anyone could ever forget) that the 2008 English DBA
Open is This Sunday.

Senior 15 mm enties have already reached the number that actually
played last year. (Remember that we do accept entries turning up in
time on the day, but sending an entry form guarantees you one of this
year's discount vouchers.)

However, I have so far only received one confirmed 25mm entry (although
I confidently expect certain other people to turn up for it).  If you
are going to play 25mm, can you at least email me so I know roughly how
many tables we will need.

Thanks

Bill

Hi all,

Just a reminder (if anyone could ever forget) that the 2008 English DBA
Open is This Sunday.

Senior 15 mm enties have already reached the number that actually
played last year. (Remember that we do accept entries turning up in
time on the day, but sending an entry form guarantees you one of this
year's discount vouchers.)

However, I have so far only received one confirmed 25mm entry (although
I confidently expect certain other people to turn up for it).  If you
are going to play 25mm, can you at least email me so I know roughly how
many tables we will need.

Thanks

Bill

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Bill
My personal preference is for the fixed version, as per the
rulebook, however, as long as we know in advance so we can bring the
relevant figures whatever you decide goes, of course (At a
competition recently an opponent commented before deployment "so if
your using 'army x' then I'll use my kn / Lh/ whatever cos you've
got  xyz in your army". Basically, no-one had pointed out that we
were supposed to be on fixed armies...and he'd been juggling troop
types as required in the previous rounds....ho hum).
Martin
--- In English_DBA_Open@yahoogroups.com, "Bill"
<william.macgillivray@...> wrote:
>
> OK, so what little opinion I've received on this has, with the
> exception of Nik, come out in favour of fixed army selection, so
that
> it what I'm going to go with again.
>
> However, if, on the day, both opponents in any particular game
agree
> beforehand to allow choice for that game only, I'm not going to
> penalise those players as long as they are honest about reverting
to
> their 'fixed' army for all their other games.
>
> Alternatively, if, on the day, all players in any of the groups
> unanimously agree to allow flexible army choice, then again that
will
> be acceptable, as long as they let me know that it is being done
(and
> I'm convinced one or more players aren't allowing going along with
> the crowd when they don't really want to).
>
> Bill
>
> --- In English_DBA_Open@yahoogroups.com, "Bill MacGillivray"
> <william.macgillivray@> wrote:
> >
> > Good point, Nik.
> >
> > We used to alternate between fixed and chosen for each game, but
> > we've used fixed for the last two years (as people last year
> > preferred to keep with fixed).
> >
> > Would anyone object if we allowed choice at the start of each
game
> > this year?
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: nikgaukroger
> > To: English_DBA_Open@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:19 AM
> > Subject: [English_DBA_Open] Re: 2008 English DBA Open details
> >
> >
> > --- In English_DBA_Open@yahoogroups.com, "Bill MacGillivray"
> > <william.macgillivray@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The PAWS Website ( http://uk.geocities.com/paws_sec/ ) has been
> > updated with
> > > details for the 2008 English DBA Open on Sunday October 19th.
> > >
> > > There is a entry form to download from the website and also in
the
> > files
> > > section of this group.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> >
> > Usual question - troops with options are they going to be fixed
for
> > the whole comp or chosen before each game?
> >
> > As ever I like the additional skill involved in the latter but as
> > long as I know which I'll be happy :-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Nik
> >
>

OK, so what little opinion I've received on this has, with the
exception of Nik, come out in favour of fixed army selection, so that
it what I'm going to go with again.

However, if, on the day, both opponents in any particular game agree
beforehand to allow choice for that game only, I'm not going to
penalise those players as long as they are honest about reverting to
their 'fixed' army for all their other games.

Alternatively, if, on the day, all players in any of the groups
unanimously agree to allow flexible army choice, then again that will
be acceptable, as long as they let me know that it is being done (and
I'm convinced one or more players aren't allowing going along with
the crowd when they don't really want to).

Bill

--- In English_DBA_Open@yahoogroups.com, "Bill MacGillivray"
<william.macgillivray@...> wrote:
>
> Good point, Nik.
>
> We used to alternate between fixed and chosen for each game, but
> we've used fixed for the last two years (as people last year
> preferred to keep with fixed).
>
> Would anyone object if we allowed choice at the start of each game
> this year?
>
> Bill
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: nikgaukroger
> To: English_DBA_Open@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:19 AM
> Subject: [English_DBA_Open] Re: 2008 English DBA Open details
>
>
> --- In English_DBA_Open@yahoogroups.com, "Bill MacGillivray"
> <william.macgillivray@> wrote:
> >
> > The PAWS Website ( http://uk.geocities.com/paws_sec/ ) has been
> updated with
> > details for the 2008 English DBA Open on Sunday October 19th.
> >
> > There is a entry form to download from the website and also in the
> files
> > section of this group.
> >
> > Bill
> >
>
> Usual question - troops with options are they going to be fixed for
> the whole comp or chosen before each game?
>
> As ever I like the additional skill involved in the latter but as
> long as I know which I'll be happy :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Nik
>

The 19th October date was announced on this list on March 10th.

I don't know where you have heard about any change of date (unless you
have confused it with the PAWS Autumn DBA next weekend).

Bill

--- In English_DBA_Open@yahoogroups.com, Chris Russell
<hammurabi70@...> wrote:
>
> A quick query if I may.  I have been committed on this weekend
(competition - 19 October) since about April.  From memory the date for
the competition seems to vary.  Would it be possible to firm up on the
date earlier as it might help people get it into their diary before
other items fill it up.  I always advise people to give three months
notice of such dates or am I just a diary obsessed southern Londoner?
>

I've now updated the site with more details, including the sponsors,
and there are now .doc and .pdf versions of the entry form in the files
section and in the website.

Bill

--- In English_DBA_Open@yahoogroups.com, "Bill MacGillivray"
<william.macgillivray@...> wrote:
>
> The PAWS Website ( http://uk.geocities.com/paws_sec/ ) has been
> updated with details for the 2008 English DBA Open on Sunday
> October 19th.
>
> There is a entry form to download from the website and also in the
> files section of this group.
>
> Bill
>

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Good point, Nik.

We used to alternate between fixed and chosen for each game, but we've used
fixed for the last two years (as people last year preferred to keep with
fixed).

Would anyone object if we allowed choice at the start of each game this
year?

Bill


----- Original Message -----
From: nikgaukroger
To: English_DBA_Open@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:19 AM
Subject: [English_DBA_Open] Re: 2008 English DBA Open details


--- In English_DBA_Open@yahoogroups.com, "Bill MacGillivray"
<william.macgillivray@...> wrote:
>
> The PAWS Website ( http://uk.geocities.com/paws_sec/ ) has been
updated with
> details for the 2008 English DBA Open on Sunday October 19th.
>
> There is a entry form to download from the website and also in the
files
> section of this group.
>
> Bill
>

Usual question - troops with options are they going to be fixed for
the whole comp or chosen before each game?

As ever I like the additional skill involved in the latter but as
long as I know which I'll be happy :-)

Cheers,

Nik

--- In English_DBA_Open@yahoogroups.com, "Bill MacGillivray"
<william.macgillivray@...> wrote:
>
> The PAWS Website ( http://uk.geocities.com/paws_sec/ ) has been
updated with
> details for the 2008 English DBA Open on Sunday October 19th.
>
> There is a entry form to download from the website and also in the
files
> section of this group.
>
> Bill
>


Usual question - troops with options are they going to be fixed for
the whole comp or chosen before each game?

As ever I like the additional skill involved in the latter but as
long as I know which I'll be happy :-)


Cheers,

Nik