The rules explicitly rule out coexisting tokens qualifying tokens for
BG ornithopters. When BG tokens coexist, "They are treated as if
they are not even on the board, i.e. they cannot collect spice,
cannot be involved in combat, cannot prevent another player's control
of a stronghold, cannot receive three territory movement bonus."

At 08:24 AM 7/17/2009, you wrote:
><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DuneBoardGame;_ylc=X3oDMTJkOGVjcW45BF9TAzk3MzU5N\
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>Board Game
>IMO, no. A literal interpretation of the rules supports the BG
>getting ornithopters by doing this. (Actually, a literal
>interpretation also does not rule out coexisting tokens qualifying
>the BG for ornithopter movement). However, this then means that the
>BG can manipulate the use of ornithopters on many turns, by having a
>coexisting token in a city, and negotiating with the current owner
>to block it as the movement round begins.

Yours truly,
Tom Swider

"I am satisfied, and sufficiently occupied with the things which are,
without tormenting or troubling myself about those which may indeed
be, but of which I have no evidence."
-- Thomas Jefferson

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