Tim Falkenberg wrote, "Bravo! This sounds like a lot of hogwash to me. I've known many Orientals (sorry, Asians) who were never even slightly taken aback by...
Betty, Brian
bbetty@...
Jun 1, 2001 1:17 pm
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... Maybe we can take the tone of this argument down a ... My apologies. This touched on one of my "pet peeves" and I shot off at the mouth without taking...
falkenberg@...
Jun 1, 2001 3:16 pm
649
"My apologies. This touched on one of my "pet peeves" and I shot off at the mouth without taking some time to consider. It was not my intent to offend anyone...
Betty, Brian
bbetty@...
Jun 1, 2001 3:30 pm
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Here's a question that's troubled me a bit. I'm a gamer, I like gaming, and I don't like hack'n'slash. I like to run games that permit limited combat -...
Betty, Brian
bbetty@...
Jun 1, 2001 3:38 pm
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In a message dated 6/1/01 2:10:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, DragonsOfTheEast@yahoogroups.com writes: << Is it offensive desrcibe someone as Causcasian, rather...
goldrushg@...
Jun 1, 2001 4:25 pm
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... as ... Perhaps the term is simply less PC in areas with large Californian populations! :-) nick...
Nick Underwood
nicku@...
Jun 1, 2001 5:25 pm
653
... Actually, it is considered pretty offensive to a lot of people - it certainly makes me wince. It's kind of like using the word 'negro': It's not ...
PA
pas245@...
Jun 1, 2001 5:31 pm
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<<My best bet is on the Ghost Eaters. So?? Did I hit on target? Don't let me die the slow death...>> ... Nope. Four letters and one dot. Now THAT's Chinese...
PA
pas245@...
Jun 1, 2001 5:34 pm
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... Bravo! This sounds like a lot of hogwash to me. I've known many Orientals (sorry, Asians) who were never even slightly taken aback by this term. This ...
PA
pas245@...
Jun 1, 2001 5:35 pm
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... Perhaps people outside of California (or who haven't spent much time studying the term) don't know why some people find 'Oriental' and 'Orientalism'...
Michael K. Ellis
mkellis@...
Jun 1, 2001 5:38 pm
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... Depend how Politic Correct the audidence are. As Gary Gygax recently stated: "As for PC speech, I think it is heinous in concept and those that advocate...
PA
pas245@...
Jun 1, 2001 5:39 pm
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... I run a heavily modified L5R campaign where there is a lot of killing, but the vast majority of it is during battles, as opposed to the PCs committing...
Michael K. Ellis
mkellis@...
Jun 1, 2001 6:07 pm
659
Michael K. Ellis wrote: "The trick is that you must have a functioning government as a world background which punishes anti- social behavior, and which is...
Betty, Brian
bbetty@...
Jun 1, 2001 6:36 pm
660
... So this 'Edward Said' wrote a book about the fact that western culture has historical looked down on the eastern culture. He named this concept...
David Allan Finch
sarum@...
Jun 1, 2001 8:06 pm
661
David Allan Finch wrote: "Just to name something and then to say "If I do not use this word then it can't happen again" is a short sited and solves nothing...
Betty, Brian
bbetty@...
Jun 1, 2001 8:30 pm
662
... From: "Betty, Brian" <bbetty@...> OK, I'll answer this with the assumption that the campaign is Japanese in flavor. ... nasty Zombie Lord has to...
Erik Munne
emunne@...
Jun 1, 2001 8:42 pm
663
Erik Munne wrote: "It would be hard to meet zombies or any kind of 'walking dead', given that the dead are cremated. There are plenty of ghosts around, though....
Betty, Brian
bbetty@...
Jun 1, 2001 8:54 pm
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... Congratulations, you have officially Missed the Point. Whether or not you agree with Said (and there's a reason why I included that second link, which is...
Michael K. Ellis
mkellis@...
Jun 1, 2001 8:56 pm
665
... I am beginning to wonder if this term is just offensive in California, because I have never heard of this before and it seems that others have not either....
David Allan Finch
sarum@...
Jun 1, 2001 9:07 pm
666
... It's considered offensive down here in Houston as well (and yes, Houston has a significant Asian population - Vietnamese is the third-most spoken language...
Theron Bretz
tbretz@...
Jun 1, 2001 9:20 pm
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... Don't be deliberately ignorant. It is an academic term, not a Californian term. Said used it in the context of what we'd consider to be 'Near Eastern'...
Michael K. Ellis
mkellis@...
Jun 1, 2001 9:24 pm
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... There is some truth to what you say but and it is a big but. This is true of almost all cultures when they characterize another. That is a fact of the...
David Allan Finch
sarum@...
Jun 1, 2001 9:25 pm
669
... Please do not make personal attacks, that makes this a flame war and then I will feel as List Manager I have to act. Up to now I have felt that other than...
David Allan Finch
sarum@...
Jun 1, 2001 9:37 pm
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... Yes, but again, consider the context, if for no other reason than it's an interesting story. I'll restrict this to the 'Orientalism' argument. Said uses...
Michael K. Ellis
mkellis@...
Jun 1, 2001 9:44 pm
671
... In a sence this argument makes me less willing to accept this PoV. Whether or not it is offence is another matter. To except the terms of reference of...
David Allan Finch
sarum@...
Jun 1, 2001 9:55 pm
672
... Samurai where paraniod that if they did not place to rest the people they killed then they would come back and haunt them. In LW&C he has a specific shrine...
David Allan Finch
sarum@...
Jun 1, 2001 10:02 pm
673
... To my knowledge the word has never be used as a form of offence, unlike say 'Limy' which most English people would laugh at you today if you used it....
David Allan Finch
sarum@...
Jun 1, 2001 10:06 pm
674
... True, the standard D&D background that most people play/referee is more like "The Wild West" with swords. This sort of fantasy medieval europe never really...
David Allan Finch
sarum@...
Jun 1, 2001 10:10 pm
675
... Then I ask that you not ascribe certain attitudes to 'it's them damn lib'ral Californians again', particularly when evidence had already been presented to...
Michael K. Ellis
mkellis@...
Jun 1, 2001 10:14 pm
676
Okay, we've heard the people say "oriental is offensive because... uh, well, because it is." Folks, "Oriental" is a value neutral term that identifies a...
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