Greg - I apologize. I keep forgetting about this, or getting sucked into
Rowan - I'll try to get to it soon.

Chris


At 03:10 AM 11/20/04 +0000, you wrote:


>--- In Ctd_Epiphany@yahoogroups.com, LostSatyr <lostsatyr@h...> wrote:
> > At 05:20 AM 9/13/04 +0000, you wrote:
> > >--- In Ctd_Epiphany@yahoogroups.com, LostSatyr <lostsatyr@h...>
>wrote:
> > > > Flattered and pleased, Andy smiles at Jacobee's comment.
> > > >**********
> > > >For a moment, Jacobee forgets that there is anyone else in the
> > > >resturant, let alone at their table. But then he remembers that
>Andy
> > > >and he aren't alone. ::Yet.::
> > > >
> > > >"Oh... uh... I was just there because of a project for one of my
> > > >classes and to advertise the opening of the All Nighter's new
> > > >basement lounge." He shrugs. "And I ended up getting a hanna,
>but
> > > >it needs to stay wrapped up until morning." He taps his right
> > > >bicept.
> > > >
> > > >**********
> > > > "Tattoos on the orcs," exclaims Lar, thinking out loud. "I'm
>doing
> > > >a comic inspired by the Lord of the Rings," she explains. "But
>with
> > > >a lot more women in the cast," she grins, glancing at Dru.
> > > >**********
> > > >"Really? Cool! I never understood why Tolkien didn't have at
>least
> > > >one woman in the Fellowship. Maybe a sign of his times?"
> > > > +++++
> > > >
> > > > Lar nods. "I think so. I think he was writing in the '50s or
> > > > maybe '60s." She grins. "Back in the dark ages."
> > > >**********
> > > >Jacobee laughs. "Ya. They actually had to get up and change the
> > > >channel on the television set! How stone age is that?"
> > > >
> > > > +++++
> > > >
> > > > Both Andy and Lar smile at Jacobee's comment.
> > > >
> > > > +++++
> > > >
> > > >"I hope you're being more true to the movie than the book.
>I /tried/
> > > >to read it, several times actually... but I never made it past
>the
> > > >first chapter." He shrugs. "There's too much detial in it for
>me to
> > > >imagine. Personally, I'd rather see it than try to imagine all
>the
> > > >little newances."
> > > >
> > > > +++++
> > > >
> > > > Lar replies, "I think Peter Jackson was fairly true to the book.
> > > > But there's only so much you can fit, even in three movies.
>But it
> > > > was his vision of the books. I'm basing off the book, so I get
>to
> > > > interpret the story the way I want to."
> > > > +++++
> > > >
> > > >"Are you going to publish it on the web? And do you have any
>ideas
> > > >for what Faramir should look like? He was one of my favorite
> > > >characters."
> > > >**********
> > > > "Faramir?" replies Lar. "I hadn't picked anyone out yet. I'd
>been
> > > > thinking of turning Faramir female, but you've given me an
>idea. I
> > > > think one way to look at what was going on is that Faramir was
> > > > interested in Frodo. But I could leave Faramir male, turn Frodo
> > > > and Sam female, and have heterosexual tension between Faramir
>and
> > > > Frodo, plus some male over-protectiveness."
> > > >
> > > >**********
> > > >"Hey, that's a great idea! But I'd do the same thing for two of
>the
> > > >female characters. I mean, in the movie, Sam seemed to be a bit
> > > >over-protective of Frodo, esepcially when Golem came on the
>scene.
> > > >But maybe you could have one of the other characters be over-
> > > >protective."
> > > >
> > > > ++++
> > > >
> > > > Lar nods at this.
> > > >
> > > > ++++
> > > >
> > > >Jacobee pauses for a moment. ::Do I really want to do this?
>THere's
> > > >a noble right there... It'd probably put a bee in her bonnet...
>But
> > > >after what happened, I have a right to be mad... I shouldn't
>take it
> > > >out on her, but maybe if I word it right...::
> > > >
> > > >"Like Legolas towards Gimli. I mean, the elfs and the dwarfs
>were
> > > >supposed to hate each other, right? Well, what if that hate
> > > >was 'cause the elfs thought they were better than the other
>races,
> > > >and thought they had to take care of them 'for their own good'?
>Of
> > > >course, that was said about the Irish and Blacks too, back in the
> > > >1800s. But what really happened was slavery, either recognized
>or
> > > >unrecognized, and a loss of rights for those slaves.
> > > >
> > > >"And there was supposed to be a scene that didn't make it into
>the
> > > >movie where Gimli and Legolas became friends, right? Well, I
>haven't
> > > >read that scene, but maybe Legolas could see that Gimli doesn't
>need
> > > >his "help" and that could start off the friendship? And as the
> > > >Faramir/Frodo over-protectiveness grows worse, Gimli and Legolas'
> > > >over-protective issues could get better, 'till Legolas realizes
>that
> > > >his kind is no better than any other race, and that all the races
> > > >should be treated with equality and fairness."
> > > >
> > > >He takes a breath and shrugs. "Just a thought that you can take
>or
> > > >leave as you want. Like I said, I didn't fully read the books,
>so I
> > > >don't know what was supposed to happen."
> > > >**********
> > > > Lar looks thoughtful. "The general idea works, though I don't
> > > >think the details fit. I think it was more of a case of the
>Gimli
> > > >and Legolas both coming to respect each other. Though there
>could
> > > >be a feeling of superiority on Legolas' side, as I think he's
>much
> > > >older than Gimli."
> > > >**********
> > > > Andy watches Jacobee with a thoughtful expression on his face.
> > > >**********
> > > >"I guess that would be why there wasn't one scene of them
>becomming
> > > >frineds in the movie. It was more of a gradual thing." Jacobee
> > > >shrugs and fiddles with his chop-sticks. It takes a few tries,
>but
> > > >he eventually gets the hang of them, and will be ready to eat
>with
> > > >them once the food comes.
> > > >
> > > >"I think I like Hary Potter better though. It's a lot easier to
>read
> > > >than Lord of the Rings! Which do you think is going to do
>better at
> > > >the box office?"
> > > >
> > > >Jacobee noticed that both Andy and Dru have been quiet for a
>while.
> > > >When he asked his question, makes sure to look at all three
>people,
> > > >to make sure he doesn't exclude anyone. He notices Andy's
> > > >expression. ::I wonder what he's thinking... Something good I
> > > >hope!::
> > > >
> > > >Andy notices Jacobee's gaze and smiles at him. "The Lord of the
> > > >Rings is a grand epic adventure. The fate of the world hanging
>in
> > > >the balance."
> > >**********
> > >It was just a phrase, but that was all that was needed to send
> > >shivers up Jacobee's spine. ::The fate of the world… Winter is
> > >coming.:: He tried to suppress it, and concentrate on what Andy
>was
> > >saying.
> > >**********
> > > >"I think if any of us had lived through World War II, we'd find
>it
> > > >easier to relate to. The first Harry Potter book, where Harry
> > > >suddenly discovers there's a whole other world that he fits
>into...
> > > >Well, I've fantasized about that sort of thing, finding a
>fantastic
> > > >world just around the corner.
> > >**********
> > >::And maybe you'll find out,:: Jacobee thought, ::if you're not
> > >allergic to goats!::
> > >**********
> > > >I don't expect it to ever happen, but there's part of me loves
>the
> > > >idea, so it was great when it happened to Harry. I could really
> > > >identify with him." Andy gazes off into the distance for a
>moment,
> > > >dreaming of himself stumbling into fantastic worlds. "But after
> > > >that, there's how he finds new friends and growing up. And at
>the
> > > >moment, I can relate to finding new friends..." There's a faint
> > > >smile on his lips as his gaze travels over Lar and Dru, which
>grows
> > > >into an obvious grin as his eyes settle on Jacobee.
> > >**********
> > >Jacobee's grin matches Andy's, although there's a hint of mischief
>in
> > >his eyes. "All true, but that didn't answer my question. Which do
> > >you think is going to do better? The re-hashing of old stories
>into
> > >a new for a new millennium? Or the adaptation of the book that
> > >practically started modern fantasy?"
> > >
> > >As Jacobee said this, he slowly let his foot slide beside Andy's.
> > >Just to see how he'd react.
> >
> > ++++++
> > Andy says, still smiling, "So you want he to make a choice? All
> > right..." His leg moves so that from ankle to knee his leg rests
>against
> > Jacobee's. "I 'm going to guess that more people will go for the
> > spectacular, big battles and such, like in the Lord of the Rings.
>And
> > having the adventure far away will make it easier to believe for
>most
> > people." He looks at Jacobee curiously, "So, Jacob, would you be
>willing
> > to share your opinion? I'd like to hear what you think."
> >
> > OOC: Sorry I took so long!
>
>"I think the younger kids are going to love Harry, but us older kids
>will be more into the Rings." Jacobee shrugs. "Call it a hunch."
>
>OOC: Want to say dinner comes, we eat, have a good time, and end
>this scene? It seems to be lagging on.
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