--- In Ctd_Epiphany@yahoogroups.com, LostSatyr <lostsatyr@h...> wrote:
> At 05:20 AM 9/13/04 +0000, you wrote:
> >--- In Ctd_Epiphany@yahoogroups.com, LostSatyr <lostsatyr@h...>
wrote:
> > > Flattered and pleased, Andy smiles at Jacobee's comment.
> > >**********
> > >For a moment, Jacobee forgets that there is anyone else in the
> > >resturant, let alone at their table. But then he remembers that
Andy
> > >and he aren't alone. ::Yet.::
> > >
> > >"Oh... uh... I was just there because of a project for one of my
> > >classes and to advertise the opening of the All Nighter's new
> > >basement lounge." He shrugs. "And I ended up getting a hanna,
but
> > >it needs to stay wrapped up until morning." He taps his right
> > >bicept.
> > >
> > >**********
> > > "Tattoos on the orcs," exclaims Lar, thinking out loud. "I'm
doing
> > >a comic inspired by the Lord of the Rings," she explains. "But
with
> > >a lot more women in the cast," she grins, glancing at Dru.
> > >**********
> > >"Really? Cool! I never understood why Tolkien didn't have at
least
> > >one woman in the Fellowship. Maybe a sign of his times?"
> > > +++++
> > >
> > > Lar nods. "I think so. I think he was writing in the '50s or
> > > maybe '60s." She grins. "Back in the dark ages."
> > >**********
> > >Jacobee laughs. "Ya. They actually had to get up and change the
> > >channel on the television set! How stone age is that?"
> > >
> > > +++++
> > >
> > > Both Andy and Lar smile at Jacobee's comment.
> > >
> > > +++++
> > >
> > >"I hope you're being more true to the movie than the book.
I /tried/
> > >to read it, several times actually... but I never made it past
the
> > >first chapter." He shrugs. "There's too much detial in it for
me to
> > >imagine. Personally, I'd rather see it than try to imagine all
the
> > >little newances."
> > >
> > > +++++
> > >
> > > Lar replies, "I think Peter Jackson was fairly true to the book.
> > > But there's only so much you can fit, even in three movies.
But it
> > > was his vision of the books. I'm basing off the book, so I get
to
> > > interpret the story the way I want to."
> > > +++++
> > >
> > >"Are you going to publish it on the web? And do you have any
ideas
> > >for what Faramir should look like? He was one of my favorite
> > >characters."
> > >**********
> > > "Faramir?" replies Lar. "I hadn't picked anyone out yet. I'd
been
> > > thinking of turning Faramir female, but you've given me an
idea. I
> > > think one way to look at what was going on is that Faramir was
> > > interested in Frodo. But I could leave Faramir male, turn Frodo
> > > and Sam female, and have heterosexual tension between Faramir
and
> > > Frodo, plus some male over-protectiveness."
> > >
> > >**********
> > >"Hey, that's a great idea! But I'd do the same thing for two of
the
> > >female characters. I mean, in the movie, Sam seemed to be a bit
> > >over-protective of Frodo, esepcially when Golem came on the
scene.
> > >But maybe you could have one of the other characters be over-
> > >protective."
> > >
> > > ++++
> > >
> > > Lar nods at this.
> > >
> > > ++++
> > >
> > >Jacobee pauses for a moment. ::Do I really want to do this?
THere's
> > >a noble right there... It'd probably put a bee in her bonnet...
But
> > >after what happened, I have a right to be mad... I shouldn't
take it
> > >out on her, but maybe if I word it right...::
> > >
> > >"Like Legolas towards Gimli. I mean, the elfs and the dwarfs
were
> > >supposed to hate each other, right? Well, what if that hate
> > >was 'cause the elfs thought they were better than the other
races,
> > >and thought they had to take care of them 'for their own good'?
Of
> > >course, that was said about the Irish and Blacks too, back in the
> > >1800s. But what really happened was slavery, either recognized
or
> > >unrecognized, and a loss of rights for those slaves.
> > >
> > >"And there was supposed to be a scene that didn't make it into
the
> > >movie where Gimli and Legolas became friends, right? Well, I
haven't
> > >read that scene, but maybe Legolas could see that Gimli doesn't
need
> > >his "help" and that could start off the friendship? And as the
> > >Faramir/Frodo over-protectiveness grows worse, Gimli and Legolas'
> > >over-protective issues could get better, 'till Legolas realizes
that
> > >his kind is no better than any other race, and that all the races
> > >should be treated with equality and fairness."
> > >
> > >He takes a breath and shrugs. "Just a thought that you can take
or
> > >leave as you want. Like I said, I didn't fully read the books,
so I
> > >don't know what was supposed to happen."
> > >**********
> > > Lar looks thoughtful. "The general idea works, though I don't
> > >think the details fit. I think it was more of a case of the
Gimli
> > >and Legolas both coming to respect each other. Though there
could
> > >be a feeling of superiority on Legolas' side, as I think he's
much
> > >older than Gimli."
> > >**********
> > > Andy watches Jacobee with a thoughtful expression on his face.
> > >**********
> > >"I guess that would be why there wasn't one scene of them
becomming
> > >frineds in the movie. It was more of a gradual thing." Jacobee
> > >shrugs and fiddles with his chop-sticks. It takes a few tries,
but
> > >he eventually gets the hang of them, and will be ready to eat
with
> > >them once the food comes.
> > >
> > >"I think I like Hary Potter better though. It's a lot easier to
read
> > >than Lord of the Rings! Which do you think is going to do
better at
> > >the box office?"
> > >
> > >Jacobee noticed that both Andy and Dru have been quiet for a
while.
> > >When he asked his question, makes sure to look at all three
people,
> > >to make sure he doesn't exclude anyone. He notices Andy's
> > >expression. ::I wonder what he's thinking... Something good I
> > >hope!::
> > >
> > >Andy notices Jacobee's gaze and smiles at him. "The Lord of the
> > >Rings is a grand epic adventure. The fate of the world hanging
in
> > >the balance."
> >**********
> >It was just a phrase, but that was all that was needed to send
> >shivers up Jacobee's spine. ::The fate of the world… Winter is
> >coming.:: He tried to suppress it, and concentrate on what Andy
was
> >saying.
> >**********
> > >"I think if any of us had lived through World War II, we'd find
it
> > >easier to relate to. The first Harry Potter book, where Harry
> > >suddenly discovers there's a whole other world that he fits
into...
> > >Well, I've fantasized about that sort of thing, finding a
fantastic
> > >world just around the corner.
> >**********
> >::And maybe you'll find out,:: Jacobee thought, ::if you're not
> >allergic to goats!::
> >**********
> > >I don't expect it to ever happen, but there's part of me loves
the
> > >idea, so it was great when it happened to Harry. I could really
> > >identify with him." Andy gazes off into the distance for a
moment,
> > >dreaming of himself stumbling into fantastic worlds. "But after
> > >that, there's how he finds new friends and growing up. And at
the
> > >moment, I can relate to finding new friends..." There's a faint
> > >smile on his lips as his gaze travels over Lar and Dru, which
grows
> > >into an obvious grin as his eyes settle on Jacobee.
> >**********
> >Jacobee's grin matches Andy's, although there's a hint of mischief
in
> >his eyes. "All true, but that didn't answer my question. Which do
> >you think is going to do better? The re-hashing of old stories
into
> >a new for a new millennium? Or the adaptation of the book that
> >practically started modern fantasy?"
> >
> >As Jacobee said this, he slowly let his foot slide beside Andy's.
> >Just to see how he'd react.
>
> ++++++
> Andy says, still smiling, "So you want he to make a choice? All
> right..." His leg moves so that from ankle to knee his leg rests
against
> Jacobee's. "I 'm going to guess that more people will go for the
> spectacular, big battles and such, like in the Lord of the Rings.
And
> having the adventure far away will make it easier to believe for
most
> people." He looks at Jacobee curiously, "So, Jacob, would you be
willing
> to share your opinion? I'd like to hear what you think."
>
> OOC: Sorry I took so long!

"I think the younger kids are going to love Harry, but us older kids
will be more into the Rings." Jacobee shrugs. "Call it a hunch."

OOC: Want to say dinner comes, we eat, have a good time, and end
this scene? It seems to be lagging on.