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Re: [Clan War] BasementCon Naga Thread

It's more the fact that Shahadet's Legion can be +4/+5 for ranged attacks every
turn in that particular army with no negative effects. With All or Nothing SL
can be +6/+7 and then all you need is a Strength of Osano Wo on one of the Naga
Shugenja to let them shoot again the next turn. Personally I don't put the Jade
Bow on Isha (Exp) since his modifiers can't go above +3/+3, I like to put
Shalasha as an associated personality on SL with a ranged weapon and Jade Bow.
That one unit gets the following ranged attacks every turn:
 
Under the effects of Blessings, Pearl of Strength and Pearl of Combat
Isha 4@ +3/+3
Shalasha (ranged weapon + jade bow) 2@ +5/+5
Shahadet's Legion 16@ +4/+5
691 koku total
 
So on turn one, against a TN 7 unit, -2 for long range (which is 34" with Isha),
-1 for High Strike the unit will do an average of 135 damage. This does not take
into account all or nothing, turtle shell or tainted.
 
On a best case scenario (close range of 17", Blessings, Pearl of Strength and
Combat, All or Nothing, Tainted enemy unit, High Strike, no detrimental cards
vs. TN 7 unit) the unit averages 246 damage.
 
Just my observations.


David "Yoritomo Ni" Langford
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--- On Thu, 7/16/09, Kuni Tetsu <kuni_tetsu@...> wrote:


From: Kuni Tetsu <kuni_tetsu@...>
Subject: Re: [Clan War] BasementCon Naga Thread
To: ClanWar-L@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 11:49 PM


 




Is it the whole army, or just Isha?

----- Original Message ----
From: Jon Bricker <mirumoto_kojiro@ yahoo.com>
To: ClanWar-L@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 8:58:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Clan War] BasementCon Naga Thread

The pearl effects are broken. Isha +Jade bow is nasty. Isha, Jade bow and
several pearl effects == 120+ damage per turn guaranteed. i've seen Jason's army
in action at a tournament. i've seen others like it. The Naga are broken as an
army.

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Mirumoto Kojiro
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everyday stance your combat stance.

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----- Original Message ----
From: Michael D. Ivancic <mdivancic@bellsouth .net>
To: ClanWar-L@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 7:37:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Clan War] BasementCon Naga Thread

Knowing exactly which combo you are talking about why not just ban
that combo? The Naga are so cool looking it a shame that they are not
allowed.

On another thought, what would it take to fix this issue? I take you
feel the revised profiles don't?

Regards,
Michael Ivancic
Moderator, HSMiniatures Yahoo Group
HSMiniatures@ yahoogroups. com

On Jul 1, 2009, at 10:31 AM, David M. Langford wrote:

>
>
> [Pulled from the BasementCon XVI "Rebirth" Thread]
>
> Michael,
>
> The Naga have some balance issues that were never really resolved. I
> have a Naga army that has never been defeated. It has been known to
> remove an enemy unit each turn. So, in the efforts of 1. being fair
> or 2. not having everyone play Naga we had to make the decision to
> not allow Naga armies at BasementCon. Now, I'm not saying this army
> can't be defeated, it just hasn't happened yet and nobody has had
> fun playing against it. Also, it's not the Naga in general, but one
> army that they can field that has devestating ranged attacks.
>
> Dave
>
> --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Michael D. Ivancic <mdivancic@bellsouth .net>
> wrote:
>
> From: Michael D. Ivancic <mdivancic@bellsouth .net>
> Subject: Re: [Clan War] BasementCon XVI "Rebirth" Thread
> To: ClanWar-L@yahoogrou ps.com
> Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2009, 10:08 AM
>
> David:
>
> I really want to make this. July 25th, or August are best for me right
> now. I think I may be able to talk another into coming along.
>
> Why no Naga armies? (Mine will not be painted by then any how, but
> just wondering?)
>
> Regards,
> Michael Ivancic
> Moderator, HSMiniatures Yahoo Group
> HSMiniatures@ yahoogroups. com
>
>
>

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[Pulled from the BasementCon XVI "Rebirth" Thread] Michael, The Naga have some balance issues that were never really resolved. I have a Naga army that has...
David M. Langford
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If anyone can bring an army that beats Dave's Naga army, I'll take them out for a steak dinner. To: ClanWar-L@yahoogroups.com From: yoritomoshomey@... ...
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I actually beat a Naga army once. I guess I should plan on kicking Naga butt on Friday and eating well... :-] ... [Non-text portions of this message have been...
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So, if I bring a Naga army and I beat Dave do I get to eat? Regards, Michael Ivancic Moderator, HSMiniatures Yahoo Group HSMiniatures@yahoogroups.com...
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LOL So long as its a significantly difference roster. To: ClanWar-L@yahoogroups.com From: mdivancic@... Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 07:30:56 -0400 ...
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does that count for my naga army or just a normal army lol ________________________________ From: Jason Snell <fauux@...> To: clanwar list -...
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OK I guess I'll need to clarify and set some guideline. If someone beats Dave with a Non-naga army, I'll buy a steak dinner. If you use a Naga army, its...
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It's still free right? Regards, Michael Ivancic Moderator, HSMiniatures Yahoo Group HSMiniatures@yahoogroups.com...
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most certainly To: ClanWar-L@yahoogroups.com From: mdivancic@... Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:09:42 -0400 Subject: Re: [Clan War] BasementCon Naga Thread...
Jason Snell
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Knowing exactly which combo you are talking about why not just ban that combo? The Naga are so cool looking it a shame that they are not allowed. On another...
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The pearl effects are broken. Isha +Jade bow is nasty. Isha, Jade bow and several pearl effects == 120+ damage per turn guaranteed. i've seen Jason's army in...
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Players are still welcome to bring Naga units in their armies. In pick up games I am happy to play against Naga armies. To: ClanWar-L@yahoogroups.com From:...
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Is it the whole army, or just Isha? ... From: Jon Bricker <mirumoto_kojiro@...> To: ClanWar-L@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 8:58:40 AM ...
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It's more the fact that Shahadet's Legion can be +4/+5 for ranged attacks every turn in that particular army with no negative effects. With All or Nothing SL...
David Langford
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IMO it is not any one particular model or unit in the Naga army that causes the problems but rather the ability they have to really stack bonuses. The Army...
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the basic trouble with naga armys is in no order the naga sugenja is able to be fielded alone. also they can do a spell and a pearl effect each turn. the...
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In my opinion the problem has always been the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. Everything adds together making everything more powerful. Making...
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