Hi Just a quick comment on Cataphracts - The byzantines obviously had Cats and they may have met knights - Normans etc and probably fought with or against...
On Tue, 01 Apr 2003 11:30:58 +0000 stephen switzer ... Hi Although slower, they must still have relied on momentum to 'steamroller' the enemy, meaning that...
In a message dated 4/1/03 5:31:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, ... Where to you get this idea? The Taktika and the Precept both clearly state, the knotos is the...
Steve I am glad you mention issue of cavalry in depth for this army becuase it seems other formations might also be better represented in depth: for example id...
While the comments on making some WB's non core is entertaining for the most part the idea doesn't pay any attention to most WB armies. The troops that counted...
A tongue in cheek look at a the sarmatian Army in the light of recent suggestions :)))) Age of Umpires Sad SfpMethatians CR H1 L1 InT1 BP0 12 HC 3(0)0 PROT 0 ...
This idea of a large portion of an army of WBs being non-core might work for the Sea People and go some way to giving Aligern a rational for their success. Now...
Steve asks where mr Hills gets the idea that Cataphracts used maces as opposed to lance. John gets this idea from Nikephoros Tactica 60:36-60.72 "The weapons...
On Wed, 02 Apr 2003 08:54:04 +0000 Peter Morrison ... Not me! Someone else started this! John ... John Hills Geography Technician Don't worry, be happy!...
On Wed, 02 Apr 2003 09:12:45 +0000 Peter Morrison ... Only reasonable - I added a comment to the original post in this thread, so maybe it was not clear who...
In a message dated 4/2/03 1:07:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, ... They used maces after the kontos is broken. Both Leo and Nikephoros makes that very clear....
Hi - Here is where I got The IDEA - I am the one who thinks cataphracts use maces as backed up by luxor - John gets this idea from Nikephoros Tactica...
On Wed, 02 Apr 2003 10:48:39 -0000 chosroes2002 ... I think the only option here would be to have different kinds of impetus - maybe the Klibs should only have...
I am thinking of doing some sort of campaign - normans vs byzantines and that sounds ok - byzantine clibanophoroi no impetus vs other HC(5) but impetus vs HI...
You have another problem there Steve because the Normans didn't use a couched lance until a late period in their sojourn. The Bayeau Tapeatry andothers shows...
I wonder if you realise that this would mean the CATs would break immediately if they lost the first round? This makes them less than other cavalry. I can't...
On Wed, 02 Apr 2003 12:25:43 +0000 Peter Morrison ... Sure I did! This makes them less than other ... The suggestion was made purely with regard to Normans and...
... charge shatter the byzantine klibs would sound about right - the byzantines only adopted the full on couched lance around the time of Manuel Comnenus - my...
... Excellent. ... Don't know. Maybe there is the assumption that after a certain point, extra numbers cease to be a benefit? Anyone out there have insite...
I suspect it was initiated to put a brake on LC armies. At least thats a charitable assumption. Those of a cynical disposition have hinted that it was an...
... Well, Luxor, Whilst I do not disagree that the front of warband are the leaders and better guys we are looking for a mechanism to give better balance. You...
... However in chariot armies only the chariots and mercenaries are key units. All those Egyptian spear are only there to clap and buy hot dogs! Aligern ... ...
Steve On your thoughts regarding Byzantine Cataphracts. Below is a message I posted years ago, I doubt anything has come of it. Luxor may be interested to note...
In a message dated 30/03/2003 17:51:15 GMT Standard Time, ... Out of curiosity whereabouts? Neil [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
In a message dated 30/03/2003 17:51:15 GMT Standard Time, ... Whaddya mean? Arr yee sayin yor a haf-Geordie like? :-) Neil (Originally Northumbrian.....) ...
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