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#4362 From: "largeaud_jm" <jean-marc.largeaud@...>
Date: Thu Sep 1, 2005 7:03 am
Subject: [6mm_Minis] Re: Taking pictures (Was: Uploads)
largeaud_jm
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Arnstein,
thank you for the advices. Very interesting about cheap lights
needed.
Cheers,
Jean-Marc
--- In 6mm_Miniatures@yahoogroups.com, Arnstein Orten
<arnstein.orten@g...> wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Aug 2005, largeaud_jm wrote:
>
> | Arnstein,
> | Good analysis, tips and advices on 6mm photos. Yes I have a
> | problem with macro and also I need a tripod .
>
> I have never used a tripod though I imagine one would be
extremely useful.
> I always rest my hands on the gaming table or an upturned cup
or whatever;
> otherwise pictures get blurred.
>
> | I can't obtain the depth you have on your pics (not only on
> | Syracuse fleet). For this I believed we needed cameras used
by
> | professionals (as Espen ). I see it's only a part of the truth.
>
> There are a couple of factors with regards to Depth of Field you
can
> affect even with a compact camera:
> - The longer away from your subject you are, the deeper your
DOF will be
> - The more light you have avaliable, the deeper your DOF will
be.
>
> Lack of light could be one factor affecting your pictures. You
don't want
> to buy a pro photo light; they are way expensive. However,
cheap options
> include
> - Shoot outdoors, utilizing daylight
> - Use a couple of standard indoor lamps (I usually use 2 180
watt lamps)
> - Buy a cheap halogen stand-mounted lamp for use on
building sites
> (I got a 500 watt one for 13 pounds. I haven't used it to photo
figures
> yet). These generate a lot of heat but are cheap.
>
> I imagine your pictures are pretty good given what you have
available wrt
> camera. You might be able to squeeze a bit better quality out
of it given
> better lighting; and if you decide for a new camera one day, you
should
> consider one with a macro setting.
>
> Regards,
> Arnstein
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> Arnstein Orten          Sysadmin, Dept. of Earth Sciences, Oslo,
Norway
> DBx in 6mm: 	 http://folk.uio.no/arnsteio/DBXin6mm/
> Samurai in 10mm: http://folk.uio.no/arnsteio/samurai/
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#4363 From: "Baccus6mm" <baccus6@...>
Date: Thu Sep 1, 2005 10:02 am
Subject: VAT price increase for Baccus 6mm ranges
Baccus6mm
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I'm afraid that today's announcements fit very firmly into the 'Good
News/Bad News' category.

First, the Bad News...

The Chancellor of the Exchequer has deemed if fit that we will have
to add VAT (Value Added Tax) to most of the items in the Baccus
ranges. The only items that are not affected are printed rules and
books. The new pricing comes come into force with effect from today.
Many apologies for the lack of notice on this move. We had expected
to reach this situation later in 2005 and had been planning for a
smoother transition, but an exceptionally busy Summer tipped us over
the turnover threshold a couple of months earlier than ancticipated.
Thus was not helped when all of this came to light just three days
before our holidays, leaving us just two days on our return to get
the new prices up and running and to notify everyone.

We know that this is a large price increase to take in one step, but
our hands are tied as the levying of VAT is a legal requirement. To
offset these increases prices will rise by 15%, not the full 17.5%
and UK and European postage rates have been reduced to 10% and 15%
(Including VAT) respectively. The new prices are in place. As a
guideline, a £3.30 pack of infantry will now cost £3.80.

Polemos War of Spanish Succession has been delayed. I had been
expecting to have the set available at Colours for this coming
weekend, but a whole train of events worked against this. The
expected release is now in the second half of September.

So let's lighten the mood a little and get on to the Good News...

If you live outside the European Community then the VAT element of
the new prices does not apply to you and will be deducted from the
costs of any orders. This will make things a little confusing for a
while, but we are working on a shopping cart format update for the
site and when that is in place the actual prices that apply to you
will be shown.

And there are some more new releases. Tidying up the AWI ranges come
some Loyalist troops and the much-anticipated Woodland Indians. For
more details go to www.baccus6mm.com

And for all of you 7YW and AWI players waiting some direction in your
armies, you'll be happy to know that there is now a pack of suitable
mounted Generals available to take command.

In a similar vein, there are an awful lot of Samurai armies out there
that will be pleased to see the Mounted Samurai Generals come into
view.

Work in Progress includes more on these themes with some Indian
Canoes and a Sengoku period Command set nearing release, while the
long-awaited Napoleonic limber teams are also approaching completion.
I hope that have all of these will out by the end of September.

I'll have all the new stuff at Colours this coming weekend.

Cheers


Peter Berry
Baccus 6mm
www.baccus6mm.com

#4364 From: "Jon" <djyuengling@...>
Date: Thu Sep 1, 2005 11:03 am
Subject: Digital Cameras
jonathanyuen...
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What is every one using for digital cameras, with taking pics of 6mm
figures. I am assuming I need a macro function?

I lost my camera to my daughter, when she went back to school. Time to
upgrade. :)

Jon

#4365 From: "P Kershaw" <Theswamp@...>
Date: Thu Sep 1, 2005 12:35 pm
Subject: Re: [6mm_Minis] Digital Cameras
tinkerer_99
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I use a Fuji Finepix S3000. It has macro. A tripod is very useful ,, as is
using  the timer to take the photo to avoid any shake from pressing the
button.

Some examples of output at http://www.theswamp.btinternet.co.uk/page12.html

None of these have special lighting and most have no flash.

Swampster

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Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 12:03 PM
Subject: [6mm_Minis] Digital Cameras


> What is every one using for digital cameras, with taking pics of 6mm
> figures. I am assuming I need a macro function?
>
> I lost my camera to my daughter, when she went back to school. Time to
> upgrade. :)
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#4366 From: "world2dave" <world2dave@...>
Date: Fri Sep 2, 2005 9:14 am
Subject: Re: Digital Cameras
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I have a cheap and cheerful Olympus C-310 and it's got a Super Macro
function as well as standard macro. Results with standard macro,
when trying to photograph 6mm especially, were poor. But with Super
Macro you can get amazing, clear, close ups. I'll upload some
samples to the Photos area.

Dave
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> Subject: [6mm_Minis] Digital Cameras
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> > What is every one using for digital cameras, with taking pics of
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#4367 From: Charles Kirke <charleskirke@...>
Date: Fri Sep 2, 2005 2:34 pm
Subject: Macro for cameras
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Macros are essential!  And do not be fobbed off with
'digital zoom' which decreases the resolution of the
picture if you zoom. Go for 'optical zoom'.

With a macro and optical zoom and a high resolution
camera you can look up the nose of a 25mm figure and
see a 6mm figure in all its glory!

Charles





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#4368 From: Arnstein Orten <arnstein.orten@...>
Date: Fri Sep 2, 2005 7:00 pm
Subject: Re: [6mm_Minis] Macro for cameras
arnsteio
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On Fri, 2 Sep 2005, Charles Kirke wrote:

| Macros are essential!  And do not be fobbed off with
| 'digital zoom' which decreases the resolution of the
| picture if you zoom. Go for 'optical zoom'.
|
| With a macro and optical zoom and a high resolution
| camera you can look up the nose of a 25mm figure and
| see a 6mm figure in all its glory!

It seems camera dependent wether a zoom will help you or not. It has not
helped getting better macro shots on my last 2 compact cameras (which
both had good macro functions, and OK zooms - but not together).

OTOH, my brand new Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro USM lens just arrived. I'm
exceptionally thrilled and must pop off to shoot some piccies :)

Regards,
Arnstein
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Samurai in 10mm: http://folk.uio.no/arnsteio/samurai/
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#4369 From: "Daniele Varelli" <varelli@...>
Date: Fri Sep 2, 2005 8:19 pm
Subject: 6mm British and Zulu on e-bay
varelli64
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6mm (1/300) British and Zulu (painted) Item no: 5237993697

6mm (1/300) British and Zulu (unpainted) Item no: 5237996361

Thank you for your attention

Daniele

#4370 From: "Daniele Varelli" <varelli@...>
Date: Sat Sep 3, 2005 7:39 pm
Subject: 6mm (1/300) ancient camps / villages on e-bay
varelli64
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6mm (1/300) ancient camps / villages (DBA/M - scenery) Item:
5238316438

Last auction from me, for the moment ;-) thank you for your
attention - ciao!

Daniele

#4371 From: "Vincent" <v.vandeventer@...>
Date: Sun Sep 4, 2005 11:10 am
Subject: Re: Digital Cameras
wpolr
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I make fine pics wiht a Olympus C-300 ZOOM camera (3.0 Megapixel).
Apart from the optical zoomfunction, it also has a digital zoom. In
the latter function some of the quality is lost. Digital zoom can be
performe in the PC afterwards aslwell. I get fine results both in 1/6
scale as in 1/300 or 1/1200 (Langton Miniature vessels). I couldn't
be more pleased than when I saw one of mi pics shown on this site
as 'traile'. The British Sherman tank platoon you see each time you
log into this group are mine and taken with above mentioned camera.

For ohter purposes I still would like a 6-8 megapixel reflex camera.
Apart from the higher resolution (I like to toy around with digital
photography) the shot is faster, which is an asset in action
photgraphy. The Olympus C-300 takes a fraction of a second before it
registers the picture. You get used to it, anticipating the action,
but a direct registration is better of course.

Enjoy,

Vincent

--- In 6mm_Miniatures@yahoogroups.com, "Jon" <djyuengling@a...> wrote:
> What is every one using for digital cameras, with taking pics of
6mm
> figures. I am assuming I need a macro function?
>
> I lost my camera to my daughter, when she went back to school. Time
to
> upgrade. :)
>
> Jon

#4372 From: "Gareth Griffiths" <sihildar@...>
Date: Mon Sep 5, 2005 9:36 am
Subject: New member
silhidar
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HI. Just a quick word to introduce myself to the group. My main
interests are Ancients and Renaissance. I used to use 15mm armies,
but since I now live in Japan, space is limited, full size DBM games
are not really possible, and I have re-discovered the joys of DBA. It
looks good in 6mm, too! At present I have a large collection of
Heroics and  Ross figures I inherited from friends, plus my own
purchases of Irregular Miniatures offerings. Most recently I bought
figures to do the Maratha Wars using Horse, Foot & Guns. Once the
figures are painted I hope to be able to post some pics.

Cheers all

Gareth

#4373 From: "Maksim" <maksimsmelchak@...>
Date: Tue Sep 6, 2005 11:10 pm
Subject: Welcome, Gareth! - Re: New member...
maksimsmelchak
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Hi Gareth,

Welcome to the group. I think you'll find the members very friendly and
helpful, especially if you're patient with questions. Sometimes the
best responses to a query come a week or two after the original
question has been asked. Like all discussion groups, periods of
activity come and go with holiday seasons, work schedules and the like
so don't be surprised if there are "slow" times.

I recommend you post your photos at the sister site listed on the home
page here. With over 1,200 members, the galleries here tend to fill and
I can't switch photos over quick enough to the other site. This site
does tend to fill up even with photo transfers ha[[ening fairly
regularly.

There are several members here also living in Japan. Hopefully, they'll
pipe in soon and you'll find some other gamers local to you so you can
get some games going.

*** Is Maratha one of the Indian conflicts? ***

I also enjoy DBA and have a number of armies.

Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.



--- In 6mm_Miniatures@yahoogroups.com, "Gareth Griffiths"
<sihildar@h...> wrote:
> HI. Just a quick word to introduce myself to the group.
> My main interests are Ancients and Renaissance.
> I used to use 15mm armies, but since I now live in Japan, space is
limited, full size DBM games are not really possible, and I have re-
discovered the joys of DBA.
> It looks good in 6mm, too!
> At present I have a large collection of Heroics and  Ross figures I
inherited from friends, plus my own purchases of Irregular Miniatures
offerings.
> Most recently I bought figures to do the Maratha Wars using Horse,
Foot & Guns.
> Once the figures are painted I hope to be able to post some pics.
> Cheers all,
> Gareth.

#4374 From: Nick Hawkins <n.j.hawkins@...>
Date: Wed Sep 7, 2005 8:31 am
Subject: 6mm vs 10mm Pike and Shot
nick_j_hawkins
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Hi,

I am trying to decide what scale to use for a project to allow me to
explore the development of weapons and tactics through the pike and
shot era (very approximately 1600-1700) on the wargames table.

To do this I believe I need a couple of "generic" armies (really
pools of figures from which to assemble an army) that will allow me
to adjust the composition of units (pike/shot, attached guns) to
reflect historical developments with the following characteristics:

* A foot regiment to be composed of 6 elements (or more) to allow for
varying pike/shot ratios.

* Either generic or even abstract painting schemes for each army, by
abstract I mean painted to resemble statuary, bronzes etc. I've done
this in the past (when I was in a hurry) with some 15mm and it works
OK, even if it looks rather unconventional.

* The figure scale needs to be less than 15mm as the armies need to
be generic (and look like armies).

* Units would have to be identified by a tag/base with an over-scale
standard(s)?

I would also need a single set of rules that can be adapted to cover
developments over the entire period (my preferred rules "system" is
Piquet but I'm open to suggestions).

Does anyone have any thought or suggestions and what scale do you
think would be most appropriate.

   Regards,
      Nick H.

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#4375 From: baccus6@...
Date: Wed Sep 7, 2005 7:43 am
Subject: Re: [6mm_Minis] 6mm vs 10mm Pike and Shot
Baccus6mm
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Nick,

There are a number of sets of rules out there that will claim to cover the
period you are interested in.  You mention the PK variants, but there is  also
DBR and Renaissance POW and I am sure that others can add more.   Whether any
of these will be suitable for your purposes is more open to  doubt.  The
similarity of basic troop types in the period  disguises huge changes in
technological, sociological and  economic shifts that all impacted directly on
the
conduct of warfare over  the years.   I have found that most most generic sets
are
actually  based heavily in one sub-period and then its principles are extended
  to cover the rest.   You may need to produce something of  your own to use
for your project.

As for which scale to use?  Well, this is the 6mm group  and I am a
manufacturer of 6mm figures so there really aren't going to be  any prizes for
guessing
my nomination!

Cheers

Peter



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#4376 From: Nick Hawkins <n.j.hawkins@...>
Date: Wed Sep 7, 2005 1:12 pm
Subject: Re: [6mm_Minis] 6mm vs 10mm Pike and Shot
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On a 6mm website I would expect a general recommendation for 6mm
figures, especially from such a staunch supporter of the scale as
yourself Peter!

In terms of rules I am inclined to ignore the DB* series, my
understanding is that they are very suitable for competitive play and
allow you to match any army against any other.

I am looking to be able to recreate the "unfair" fights when one side
has developed an incremental advantage in one weapon system or
another, I think I need a rules system that allows the amplification
of small differences and does not smooth them out, for that reason
specialist 30 years war rules (such as "Father Tilley") might not be
the best starting point(?)

I will look into Renaissance POW, does anyone have any experience of
it please?


Regards,
      Nick H.




On 7 Sep 2005, at 12:43, baccus6@... wrote:

>
> Nick,
>
> There are a number of sets of rules out there that will claim to
> cover the
> period you are interested in.  You mention the PK variants, but
> there is  also
> DBR and Renaissance POW and I am sure that others can add more.
> Whether any
> of these will be suitable for your purposes is more open to
> doubt.  The
> similarity of basic troop types in the period  disguises huge
> changes in
> technological, sociological and  economic shifts that all impacted
> directly on the
> conduct of warfare over  the years.   I have found that most most
> generic sets are
> actually  based heavily in one sub-period and then its principles
> are extended
>  to cover the rest.   You may need to produce something of  your
> own to use
> for your project.
>
> As for which scale to use?  Well, this is the 6mm group  and I am a
> manufacturer of 6mm figures so there really aren't going to be  any
> prizes for guessing
> my nomination!
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter
>
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#4377 From: "Tod Creasey" <t_s.creasey@...>
Date: Wed Sep 7, 2005 2:49 pm
Subject: Re: [6mm_Minis] 6mm vs 10mm Pike and Shot
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> I will look into Renaissance POW, does anyone have any experience of
> it please?

We used RenPOW until Polemous came out. I have used all of the POW
sets and I think the original 19th century is the best one.

It isn't bad but it is pretty figure intensive so you can
realistically fight with about 3 tercios a side. If you want larger
scale you'll need to keep looking around.

Tod

#4378 From: "Maksim" <maksimsmelchak@...>
Date: Wed Sep 7, 2005 3:22 pm
Subject: Re: 6mm vs 10mm Pike and Shot
maksimsmelchak
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Hi Nick,

First of all (and not so surprisingly), I recommend 6mm figures for
just about any gaming medium. I love their quick paint jobs, ease of
storage and low prices compared to many other scales.

I'm not sure about what's available in 10mm scale, but I am sure that
there are choices in 6mm. Baccus, Irregular and H&R come to mind
immediately.

I think the best rule sets are "scale independant." They welcome you
to use any scale of minis you like.

I confess to never really being interested in the eras between the
Medieval Era / Dark Ages and Napoleonics and as such, don't have
figures for this period. It does interest me and may eventually
become a future project.

The Picquet system is interesting as well, but I've never tried it. I
tried to drum up interest with my gaming mates once, but couldn't
seem to get the gang interested.

And oddly enough, my gang seems interested in bringing back some old
classics now: Car Wars and OGRE.

Well, I'm very interested to see what you decide to go with so please
keep the group informed! LOL :)

Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.


--- In 6mm_Miniatures, Nick Hawkins wrote:
> Hi,
> I am trying to decide what scale to use for a project to allow me
to explore the development of weapons and tactics through the pike
and shot era (very approximately 1600-1700) on the wargames table.
> To do this I believe I need a couple of "generic" armies (really
pools of figures from which to assemble an army) that will allow me
to adjust the composition of units (pike/shot, attached guns) to
reflect historical developments with the following characteristics:
> * A foot regiment to be composed of 6 elements (or more) to allow
for varying pike/shot ratios.
> * Either generic or even abstract painting schemes for each army,
by abstract I mean painted to resemble statuary, bronzes etc. I've
done this in the past (when I was in a hurry) with some 15mm and it
works OK, even if it looks rather unconventional.
> * The figure scale needs to be less than 15mm as the armies need to
be generic (and look like armies).
> * Units would have to be identified by a tag/base with an over-
scale standard(s)?
> I would also need a single set of rules that can be adapted to
cover developments over the entire period (my preferred
rules "system" is Piquet but I'm open to suggestions).
> Does anyone have any thought or suggestions and what scale do you
think would be most appropriate.
>   Regards,
>      Nick H.

#4379 From: Andy Cowell <andy@...>
Date: Wed Sep 7, 2005 4:16 pm
Subject: Re: [6mm_Minis] Re: 6mm vs 10mm Pike and Shot
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In message <dfn0iv+ldie@eGroups.com>, "Maksim" writes:
>
> The Picquet system is interesting as well, but I've never tried it. I
> tried to drum up interest with my gaming mates once, but couldn't
> seem to get the gang interested.

Hey, Piquet is GREAT for solo wargaming!

#4380 From: "Gareth Griffiths" <sihildar@...>
Date: Thu Sep 8, 2005 1:21 am
Subject: Welcome, Gareth! - Re: New member...
silhidar
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--- In 6mm_Miniatures@yahoogroups.com, "Maksim" <maksimsmelchak@y...>
wrote:

>
> *** Is Maratha one of the Indian conflicts? ***
>
Yes. The British fought 4 or 5 (depends how you count) wars with them
between 1775 and 1818. I'm using the lists Phil Barker included for
HFG, although the more I read the less convinced I am of their
accuracy. Still, they make a reasonable intro into the rules system
with pair of interesting opponents. I went for Irregular figures
simply because Baccus doesn't cover the period. The various wars in
India don't get the attention they deserve. They are interesting,
colourful, and if you want to set up a campaign, have wonderful
opportunities for subterfuge and surprise. Thanks for asking. When I
finally finish painting, I'll post some pics.

Cheers


Gareth

#4381 From: "Maksim" <maksimsmelchak@...>
Date: Thu Sep 8, 2005 2:36 am
Subject: Maratha Wars in India (1775-1818)...
maksimsmelchak
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Hi Gareth,

Thanks for responding.

I write game reviews for magazines and was recently sent a game from
GMT to review. I don't remember the title, but it specifically games
out the Indian conflicts. You might want to look it up.

Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.


--- In 6mm_Miniatures, "Gareth Griffiths" wrote:
> --- In 6mm_Miniatures, "Maksim" wrote:
> > *** Is Maratha one of the Indian conflicts? ***
> >
> Yes. The British fought 4 or 5 (depends how you count) wars with
them between 1775 and 1818.
> I'm using the lists Phil Barker included for HFG, although the more
I read the less convinced I am of their accuracy.
> Still, they make a reasonable intro into the rules system with pair
of interesting opponents.
> I went for Irregular figures simply because Baccus doesn't cover
the period.
> The various wars in India don't get the attention they deserve.
> They are interesting, colourful, and if you want to set up a
campaign, have wonderful opportunities for subterfuge and surprise.
> Thanks for asking. When I finally finish painting, I'll post some
pics.
> Cheers,
> Gareth.

#4382 From: Koen De Smedt <koen@...>
Date: Thu Sep 8, 2005 8:59 am
Subject: Introduction and WWII question
dale_munk
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Hi all,

Quick introduction, as I just joined the group. I guess some know me
already, I've seen some familiar names already...

Anyway, I'm Flemish (Belgian), living in Holland, soon to move to Sweden (my
wife's Swedish). Been in wargaming for about 15 years now (guess I'm getting
old...). Started out with Napoleonics (25/28mm), and Age of Reason (15mm),
then drifted to Ancients (15mm), and lately I've been moving towards 6mm for
my GNW Swedes (Gå På and Polemos), and recently I've been introduced to WWII
(BKC), that I intend to do in 6mm as well.

Which brings me to my question... For WWII I'm looking to do a reasonably
obscure theathre, the Finnish Winter and Continuation wars (vs the
Russians). For this I need quite some pack or transport horses, as that was
about the only transport the Finns had. So... anyone have any ideas? I've
already looked at Baccus pack mules as an option, but perhaps anyone knows
of some suitable horses? I can use plain infantry men as horse holders, so
they wouldn't be a problem.

Thanks,
Koen


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#4383 From: Chase Printing & Graphics <chasepg@...>
Date: Thu Sep 8, 2005 2:19 pm
Subject: Re: [6mm_Minis] Introduction and WWII question
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Koen,

GHQ makes pack horses. they can be found in their WW2 cavalry packs.
I also believe that Heroic & Ros makes them as well.

Glen

Koen De Smedt wrote:

>  Hi all,
>
> Quick introduction, as I just joined the group. I guess some know me
> already, I've seen some familiar names already...
>
> Anyway, I'm Flemish (Belgian), living in Holland, soon to move to Sweden (my
> wife's Swedish). Been in wargaming for about 15 years now (guess I'm getting
> old...). Started out with Napoleonics (25/28mm), and Age of Reason (15mm),
> then drifted to Ancients (15mm), and lately I've been moving towards 6mm for
> my GNW Swedes (Gå På and Polemos), and recently I've been introduced to WWII
> (BKC), that I intend to do in 6mm as well.
>
> Which brings me to my question... For WWII I'm looking to do a reasonably
> obscure theathre, the Finnish Winter and Continuation wars (vs the
> Russians). For this I need quite some pack or transport horses, as that was
> about the only transport the Finns had. So... anyone have any ideas? I've
> already looked at Baccus pack mules as an option, but perhaps anyone knows
> of some suitable horses? I can use plain infantry men as horse holders, so
> they wouldn't be a problem.
>
> Thanks,
> Koen
>
>
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#4384 From: "c15ben" <benson9762@...>
Date: Thu Sep 8, 2005 5:38 pm
Subject: Re: Introduction and WWII question
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Welcome to the group and the theater.  CinC makes horse and wagon
units.  They are in the one of the WWII, Russina areas (transport,
artillery or miscellaneous, I don't remember which).  The CinC link
is in this group links, WWII manufacturers.

I use CinC stuff because the detail is excellent and they are
cheaper than GHQ.  However, their range isn't as extensive as GHQ so
I had to go there for some goodies (BA64, JSIII for grins, and some
other stuff)

Hope this helps.

Chris Benson
Baton Rouge, LA

--- In 6mm_Miniatures@yahoogroups.com, Koen De Smedt <koen@d...>
wrote:
>
> Which brings me to my question... For WWII I'm looking to do a
reasonably
> obscure theathre, the Finnish Winter and Continuation wars (vs the
> Russians). For this I need quite some pack or transport horses, as
that was
> about the only transport the Finns had. So... anyone have any
ideas? I've
> already looked at Baccus pack mules as an option, but perhaps
anyone knows
> of some suitable horses? I can use plain infantry men as horse
holders, so
> they wouldn't be a problem.
>
> Thanks,
> Koen
>
>

#4385 From: "Daniele Varelli" <varelli@...>
Date: Thu Sep 8, 2005 6:56 pm
Subject: 6mm Renaissance site (lost link)
varelli64
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Someone remembers a website with pictures of 6mm
Renaissance miniatures (Baccus, H&R, Irregular), I remember
pictures of a big Tercio and a comparison between a 25mm
figure and a base of 6mm - and IIRC, it was in Spanish
language?

Thank you,

Daniele

#4386 From: "j_piper1" <j_piper1@...>
Date: Fri Sep 9, 2005 1:09 am
Subject: Re: 6mm British and Zulu on e-bay
j_piper1
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--- In 6mm_Miniatures@yahoogroups.com, "Daniele Varelli"
<varelli@s...> wrote:
> 6mm (1/300) British and Zulu (painted) Item no: 5237993697
>
> 6mm (1/300) British and Zulu (unpainted) Item no: 5237996361
>
> Thank you for your attention
>
> Daniele
I saw then-very nice! :) , unfornutatly do not collect/play with them,
will refer to others

#4387 From: "lekw2001" <lekw2001@...>
Date: Fri Sep 9, 2005 2:52 am
Subject: 6mm Renaissance site
lekw2001
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I think this is the page you are looking for. A great
site, was very happy when I found it on the web.


              http://rolyestrategia.com/6mm.htm

#4388 From: "Daniele Varelli" <varelli@...>
Date: Fri Sep 9, 2005 5:56 am
Subject: Re: 6mm Renaissance site
varelli64
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--- In 6mm_Miniatures@yahoogroups.com, "lekw2001"
<lekw2001@y...> wrote:
>
>
>              I think this is the page you are looking for. A great
> site, was very happy when I found it on the web.
>
>
>              http://rolyestrategia.com/6mm.htm

Exactly!

Thank you

Daniele

#4389 From: Bob Mackenzie <bob_mackenzie@...>
Date: Fri Sep 9, 2005 9:17 am
Subject: Re: Pack Horses
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Dear Koen

I'd suggest Irregular - Take a look in their WW1 range. Trouble with GHQ
and H&R is that you cant get the pack horses on their own. Irregular
sell them separately. Irregulars WW1 range (look under misc) also have a
one horse cart

Cheers

Bob

#4390 From: "rct75001" <rmirabel@...>
Date: Fri Sep 9, 2005 11:40 am
Subject: Re: Introduction and WWII question
rct75001
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Koen

I have been using Baccus for pack horses and Irregular for carts.
These are being used with GHQ vehicles and Adler infantry and they
compare reasonably well (for pack horses and carts at least)

Richard

--- In 6mm_Miniatures@yahoogroups.com, Koen De Smedt <koen@d...>
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Quick introduction, as I just joined the group. I guess some know
me
> already, I've seen some familiar names already...
>
> Anyway, I'm Flemish (Belgian), living in Holland, soon to move to
Sweden (my
> wife's Swedish). Been in wargaming for about 15 years now (guess
I'm getting
> old...). Started out with Napoleonics (25/28mm), and Age of Reason
(15mm),
> then drifted to Ancients (15mm), and lately I've been moving
towards 6mm for
> my GNW Swedes (Gå På and Polemos), and recently I've been
introduced to WWII
> (BKC), that I intend to do in 6mm as well.
>
> Which brings me to my question... For WWII I'm looking to do a
reasonably
> obscure theathre, the Finnish Winter and Continuation wars (vs the
> Russians). For this I need quite some pack or transport horses, as
that was
> about the only transport the Finns had. So... anyone have any
ideas? I've
> already looked at Baccus pack mules as an option, but perhaps
anyone knows
> of some suitable horses? I can use plain infantry men as horse
holders, so
> they wouldn't be a problem.
>
> Thanks,
> Koen
>
>
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#4391 From: "william butler" <butlerw@...>
Date: Fri Sep 9, 2005 2:55 pm
Subject: Re: Introduction and WWII question
bbscgt
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--- In 6mm_Miniatures@yahoogroups.com, Koen De Smedt <koen@d...> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Quick introduction, as I just joined the group. I guess some know me
> already, I've seen some familiar names already...
>
> Anyway, I'm Flemish (Belgian), living in Holland, soon to move to
Sweden (my
> wife's Swedish). Been in wargaming for about 15 years now (guess I'm
getting
> old...). Started out with Napoleonics (25/28mm), and Age of Reason
(15mm),
> then drifted to Ancients (15mm), and lately I've been moving towards
6mm for
> my GNW Swedes (Gå På and Polemos), and recently I've been introduced
to WWII
> (BKC), that I intend to do in 6mm as well.
>
> Which brings me to my question... For WWII I'm looking to do a
reasonably
> obscure theathre, the Finnish Winter and Continuation wars (vs the
> Russians). For this I need quite some pack or transport horses, as
that was
> about the only transport the Finns had. So... anyone have any ideas?
I've
> already looked at Baccus pack mules as an option, but perhaps anyone
knows
> of some suitable horses? I can use plain infantry men as horse
holders, so
> they wouldn't be a problem.
>
> Thanks,
> Koen
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


in addition to the world war 2 wagons and horses, heroics also has
pack animals in their ancients range that can be used.

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