Russ sent this to the Gandalf list. I thought it was interesting enough to share. ... Subject: [Gaming] dumb rule? Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 00:10:20 -0400...
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William
boatner42
Jun 17, 2013 10:24 pm
... The problem with this is that many of the exchanges here (and in other forums) are often full of untruth. ... I don't believe it is possible to grok 1817...
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Beard, Bruce D.
bruce_d_beard
Jun 17, 2013 10:40 pm
Usually when a player in 1817 starts shorting it is not so much that he wants to attcka certain company or player as that he wants to raise capital as quickly...
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Steve Thomas
stephen839501
Jun 17, 2013 10:43 pm
... The one difference the 1880 rule makes is that in a conventional market you have to sell the high-priced share (or wait until the end of the game) in order...
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Beard, Bruce D.
bruce_d_beard
Jun 17, 2013 10:58 pm
1817 is the most volatile 18XX game I have played. This will not appeal to many players. Also, you cannot play the same pattern every time and repeat similar...
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larrymoris
Jun 17, 2013 11:00 pm
i don't think it makes sense from a historical sense, so would it work as a game mechanic if so, what are you trying to accomplish? larry ... From: Richard...
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David Hecht
dhecht05
Jun 17, 2013 11:05 pm
Could work. We know that limiting companies to building only in certain phases works, from 1880! :-)...
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Daniel
nonteadrinker
Jun 17, 2013 11:17 pm
I appreciate that I may be in a minority here - but the thing that I dislike about the 1870 rule is that it hurts new companies.IMHO it truly is a dumb rule. ...
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Chris Shaffer
chris_shaffer
Jun 17, 2013 11:40 pm
When players play poorly, shorts are very threatening. (I freely admit that I have been so threatened because I played poorly, particularly in the game that...
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BrophyM@...
Jun 18, 2013 12:41 am
Is this an error an the rules...? Shouldn't "exceed" be "less than"...? 4.2 Conducting the Initial Auction Before the first stock round, a special Private...
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Ken Gutermuth
aorkg
Jun 18, 2013 12:52 am
Mike, Exceed is correct. If a player really wants the private he can just bid face value and take it. The auction can never go above face value From:...
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John David Galt
john_david_galt
Jun 18, 2013 1:32 am
... Then "at least equal" should say something like "at least $5 and at most equal"....
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brosiuse
Jun 18, 2013 3:43 am
... It is correct as written. You may not bid more than face value. In fact, if you bid face value, you end the auction and take the private. The reason...
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Antero Kuusi
anterokuusi
Jun 18, 2013 7:33 am
I would go even further and say that the best thing that can happen to healthy company is of it being shorted. If the company can take advantage of the...
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dave4b
Jun 18, 2013 8:52 am
There are already some games which have elements of this: In 1853 Retuned a company with a 5 or 6-train may promote or garrison outside its home area. In 1825...
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Jim Knight
james986712
Jun 18, 2013 8:58 am
I freely admit I don't understand how shorting works in the context of an 18xx game (thus speaks someone who still can't get his head around buying and selling...
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brosiuse
Jun 18, 2013 12:07 pm
... In real life, a company whose stock price soars to such a height that it far exceeds the true value is said to be in a "bubble" and everyone knows that...
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Chris Shaffer
chris_shaffer
Jun 18, 2013 1:23 pm
We've got a group of four in Portland that have kicked a six pack. If two other people nearby are looking to pick up the game, we can do local delivery of some...
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John A. Tamplin
john_a_tamplin
Jun 18, 2013 2:18 pm
... I don't see how it was a disaster for the company -- they got full value from their IPO, and unless they are going to do another offering soon the price of...
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Scott A
agius1520
Jun 18, 2013 4:14 pm
We're using a similar idea in our '23 game which is still in its development. The trains you own dictate how many track points you get and placing tiles is all...
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Jim Knight
james986712
Jun 18, 2013 4:53 pm
I can think of one small railway company in Scotland, designed by Sir Thomas Bouch (the designer of the first Tay Rail Bridge) which wasn't allowed a certain...
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Jeff Heuer
jheuer7
Jun 18, 2013 5:56 pm
... Steve Thomas wrote: Yes and no. In many games, it's wise to buy a share in company X paying a slightly higher dividend than company Y, even though you know...
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Beard, Bruce D.
bruce_d_beard
Jun 18, 2013 6:54 pm
1817 was played 6 times at Origins. 2 games were finished and 4 were not. Five of those games included included a bankruptcy. Four of the bankruptcies were...
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JC Lawrence
clearclaw
Jun 18, 2013 9:03 pm
Another common constraint for trains, especially freight trains, is the interior radius of bends/turns. Various locomotives handle such curves with different...
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John David Galt
john_david_galt
1:01 am
... It is not correct as written. "the initial bid combined with the available seed money must be a multiple of $5 that is at least equal to the face value of...
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John A. Tamplin
john_a_tamplin
1:10 am
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:01 PM, John David Galt < ... The combination of the bid and the amount taken from the seed money must exactly equal face value. Your...
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brosiuse
1:20 am
... It *is* correct as written. For example, let's suppose there is $40 of seed money left and you want to bid on a minor that has a face value of $80. Your...
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Beard, Bruce D.
bruce_d_beard
1:46 am
If in fact the short rules created an unvarying advantage for the shorter and against the shortee, players would logically respond by keeping their companies...
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pwork58
4:23 am
I believe that John David Galt has made an incorrect assumption here that everyone is missing. The assumption appears to be that the bid plus the available...
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pwork58
4:27 am
However, it is dangerous to grow up to a 5-share company if your primary objective is to raise capital to fund a better train. Creating a 5-share company from...
