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1835 Bayern dump in SR2   Message List  
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Re: 1835 Bayern dump in SR2

--- In 18xx@yahoogroups.com, Bill Stoll <bill@...> wrote:
>
> Henning Kantner wrote:
> >> The situation with the Bayern is utterly avoidable. If anyone
puts himself
> >> in a position where I as a president have 20% and two more people
also
> >> have 20% - well, if that is not asking for trouble, I do not know,
> >> what is. As I for one have so eloquently put it (oh, the sheer
> >> arrogance of that guy. ;-) ): Absolute money doesn't matter, relative
> >> money matters.
> JDG wrote:
> > The stock position you describe happened during the initial stock
round
> > in a four player game, played with a variant rule (by Bill Stoll) that
> > the By always floats even if it doesn't sell out. I was stuck with two
> > bad choices: either buy two blue private companies knowing I'd never
> > control the By (and needed to float the Sx), or wind up as the only
> > player with no income in OR1. As it turned out, I had already lost the
> > game either way.
>
> Actually it was a 3-way game using the auction variant.
>
> http://www.askwaltstollmd.com/bill/archive/1835zehn/index.html
>
> I had never seen the "By small circle" done before - it never would
have occurred to me that buying that By share could be bad, and I
would have played the same way John did.
>
> Anyway, it was an interesting game with three strong players, and
was certainly educational for me as an observer. Hmm, it has been too
long since I hosted one of these...
>
> Bill Stoll
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
That looks like an intriguing variant.Certainly,nothing
is overpriced for initial bids.However,if the start packet in total
goes for more than face value,because some things have been bid up
on,then I can see the potential for a problem.In such a case,there
might be a shortage of money in the game - since the surplus paid does
not get distributed evenly back to the players.If I was being
out-earned,I could easily see myself being forced to buy the
Pfaltzbahn,and leaving myself vulnerable to the no-route Bayerische ploy.
Danny Victor




Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:59 pm

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... Actually it was a 3-way game using the auction variant. http://www.askwaltstollmd.com/bill/archive/1835zehn/index.html I had never seen the "By small...
Bill Stoll
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Jan 11, 2009
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... puts himself ... also ... round ... have occurred to me that buying that By share could be bad, and I would have played the same way John did. ... was...
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... Yes, the auction variant in 1835 works pretty well. What usually happens is people bid up the minors, run out of money, and somebody plays "bottom...
Bill Stoll
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... ploy. ... Hi,Bill.I'll take your word for it ! Theoretically,there is a reason for the start packet to go for more than face,because ,excluding the...
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