From what I understand Lance from JTF600 has the Hawk battery on his "to do"
list and already makes the SA-2 Launcher with Fan Song Radar. Robert

--- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "mako000013"
<RKentJr@...> wrote:
>
>
> Ah yes, I agree that SAM's would be very nice, especially if they include them
for both sides, e.g.:
>
> SA-2's
> SA-3's
> SA-4's
> SA-5's
> SA-6's
>
> HAWK on trailer
> Rapier
> Bloodhound
> Nike
> Nike-Zeus
>
> Looking forward to the Eurofighters as well.
>

Hell if thats the only problem I have a Lebanese freind who can sort that out. 
The price will even be quite reasonable.  Mind you he has problems delivering
these days somebody sank his ship.

Fatman

--- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "ianiow" <ianiow@...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Fatman"
<fatman_bear1@> wrote:
> >
> > OK I am on a roll, so how about SAM's, ducks behind sandbags.
> >
> > Fatman
> >
>
> Be patient! Marcin's mastering system is different from anyone else's. First
he has to find a real one, and then persuade the owner to let him shrink it to
1/600th of its size in his magic pantographic laser mastering chamber so he has
the master to make a mould... How else can he get the detail? :-)
>
> Ian
> Fighting 15s
>

Both sides? I don't see the Crotale listed there, nor the Roland 2. Perhaps I
should have gone to Specsavers. :-))

David

--- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "mako000013"
<RKentJr@...> wrote:
>
>
> Ah yes, I agree that SAM's would be very nice, especially if they include them
for both sides, e.g.:
>
> SA-2's
> SA-3's
> SA-4's
> SA-5's
> SA-6's
>
> HAWK on trailer
> Rapier
> Bloodhound
> Nike
> Nike-Zeus
>
> Looking forward to the Eurofighters as well.
>

--- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Fatman"
<fatman_bear1@...> wrote:
>
> OK I am on a roll, so how about SAM's, ducks behind sandbags.
>
> Fatman
>

Be patient! Marcin's mastering system is different from anyone else's. First he
has to find a real one, and then persuade the owner to let him shrink it to
1/600th of its size in his magic pantographic laser mastering chamber so he has
the master to make a mould... How else can he get the detail? :-)

Ian
Fighting 15s

Ah yes, I agree that SAM's would be very nice, especially if they include them
for both sides, e.g.:

SA-2's
SA-3's
SA-4's
SA-5's
SA-6's

HAWK on trailer
Rapier
Bloodhound
Nike
Nike-Zeus

Looking forward to the Eurofighters as well.

OK I am on a roll, so how about SAM's, ducks behind sandbags.

Fatman



--- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Marcin"
<marcin2501@...> wrote:
>
> We should finally start modern French range next year, so it should be on the
list.
>
> Marcin
>
> --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Fatman"
<fatman_bear1@> wrote:
> >
> > Marcin while I'm being a pain in the butt  is the Rafale on the cards?
> >
> > Fatman
> >
> > --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Marcin"
<marcin2501@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Eurofighter is on my workbench ;)
> > >
> > > Marcin
> > >
> > > --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Fatman"
<fatman_bear1@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > BUGGER i am going blind painting Swedish four coulor splinter cammo on
your Viggens and now I'm going to have to do it on smaller Grypens, thanks a
bunch. ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Seiously glad to see this one done and, in traditional never happy
wargamer style, when are you going to do Eurofighters?
> > > >
> > > > Fatman
> > > >
> > > > --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Marcin"
<marcin2501@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > This time large bunch of aircrafts:
> > > > >
> > > > > SA-666 MiG-21F-13 (8 pcs) - first mass-produced version of this
fighter
> > > > > SA-667 T-72B (15 pcs) - version with stronger armour and ERA
> > > > > MN-603 Saab JAS39 Grippen (8 pcs) - new Swedish jet fighter
> > > > > WP-603 PT-91 Twardy (Hard) (15 pcs) - Polish licence-built T-72 with
many modifications
> > > > > US-659 AAVP-7A1 (15 pcs) - upgraded LVT-7 with appliqué armour
> > > > >
> > > > > WWH-665 Ju-88A-1 (8 pcs) - early version of one of the best Luftwaffe
aircrafts
> > > > > WPL-619 PZL.37 £o¶ (Moose) (8 pcs) - medium bomber, most modern Polish
aircraft in September 1939
> > > > > WFR-626 CR.714 Cyclone (8 pcs) - light fighter of wooden construction,
flown by Polish pilots in 1940, despite order of withdrawing this plane from
active service!
> > > > > WBR-634 Blenheim Mk IV (8 pcs) - standard British light bomber at the
beginning of the war
> > > > > WIT-614 MC.200 Saetta (8 pcs) - monoplane fighter designed by famous
Mario Castoldi
> > > > >
> > > > > Photos will follow soon
> > > > >
> > > > > All the best
> > > > > Marcin
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

So here are the photos: http://marcin2501.fotosik.pl/albumy/708579.html

Marcin

--- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Marcin"
<marcin2501@...> wrote:
>
> This time large bunch of aircrafts:
>
> SA-666 MiG-21F-13 (8 pcs) - first mass-produced version of this fighter
> SA-667 T-72B (15 pcs) - version with stronger armour and ERA
> MN-603 Saab JAS39 Grippen (8 pcs) - new Swedish jet fighter
> WP-603 PT-91 Twardy (Hard) (15 pcs) - Polish licence-built T-72 with many
modifications
> US-659 AAVP-7A1 (15 pcs) - upgraded LVT-7 with appliqué armour
>
> WWH-665 Ju-88A-1 (8 pcs) - early version of one of the best Luftwaffe
aircrafts
> WPL-619 PZL.37 £o¶ (Moose) (8 pcs) - medium bomber, most modern Polish
aircraft in September 1939
> WFR-626 CR.714 Cyclone (8 pcs) - light fighter of wooden construction, flown
by Polish pilots in 1940, despite order of withdrawing this plane from active
service!
> WBR-634 Blenheim Mk IV (8 pcs) - standard British light bomber at the
beginning of the war
> WIT-614 MC.200 Saetta (8 pcs) - monoplane fighter designed by famous Mario
Castoldi
>
> Photos will follow soon
>
> All the best
> Marcin
>

We should finally start modern French range next year, so it should be on the
list.

Marcin

--- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Fatman"
<fatman_bear1@...> wrote:
>
> Marcin while I'm being a pain in the butt  is the Rafale on the cards?
>
> Fatman
>
> --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Marcin"
<marcin2501@> wrote:
> >
> > Eurofighter is on my workbench ;)
> >
> > Marcin
> >
> > --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Fatman"
<fatman_bear1@> wrote:
> > >
> > > BUGGER i am going blind painting Swedish four coulor splinter cammo on
your Viggens and now I'm going to have to do it on smaller Grypens, thanks a
bunch. ;-)
> > >
> > > Seiously glad to see this one done and, in traditional never happy
wargamer style, when are you going to do Eurofighters?
> > >
> > > Fatman
> > >
> > > --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Marcin"
<marcin2501@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This time large bunch of aircrafts:
> > > >
> > > > SA-666 MiG-21F-13 (8 pcs) - first mass-produced version of this fighter
> > > > SA-667 T-72B (15 pcs) - version with stronger armour and ERA
> > > > MN-603 Saab JAS39 Grippen (8 pcs) - new Swedish jet fighter
> > > > WP-603 PT-91 Twardy (Hard) (15 pcs) - Polish licence-built T-72 with
many modifications
> > > > US-659 AAVP-7A1 (15 pcs) - upgraded LVT-7 with appliqué armour
> > > >
> > > > WWH-665 Ju-88A-1 (8 pcs) - early version of one of the best Luftwaffe
aircrafts
> > > > WPL-619 PZL.37 £o¶ (Moose) (8 pcs) - medium bomber, most modern Polish
aircraft in September 1939
> > > > WFR-626 CR.714 Cyclone (8 pcs) - light fighter of wooden construction,
flown by Polish pilots in 1940, despite order of withdrawing this plane from
active service!
> > > > WBR-634 Blenheim Mk IV (8 pcs) - standard British light bomber at the
beginning of the war
> > > > WIT-614 MC.200 Saetta (8 pcs) - monoplane fighter designed by famous
Mario Castoldi
> > > >
> > > > Photos will follow soon
> > > >
> > > > All the best
> > > > Marcin
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

You're welcome & you're right, plenty to game there. Wildcats over Casablanca is
next!

--- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, Robert Kennedy
<anammchara@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for that thundermaker404 :). There are a few good scenarios for
"Torch". For example,
>  
> "VF-9 also saw action. Lt Cmdr Jack Raby led his squadron to Port Lyautey,
where they shot down a twin-engine Potez 63 â€" one of the many
light-bomber/observation twins that the French produced in the late 1930s.
> VGFs 26 and 27 had been in the same area and encountered several French
fighters and bombers, shooting down several. Unfortunately, VGF-27 Wildcats
attacked a Royal Air Force Hudson from Gibraltar, which they had wrongly
identified as a French aircraft. The Lockheed twin crashed, with only one
survivor of the four-man crew."
> http://www.airgroup4.com/torch.htm
>  
> Robert
>  
>  
>  
>  
> --On Mon, 11/16/09, thundermaker404 <thundermaker404@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: thundermaker404 <thundermaker404@...>
> Subject: [1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming] Crosspost game report: Operation
Torch off Oran, 8 November 1942.
> To: 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 7:13 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Game report: Operation Torch off Oran, 8 November 1942.
>
> 6 Fleet Air Arm Sea Hurricane II's (1 flight in 3 sections of 2) escort 8
Albacores in 2 boxes of 4 each. Mission complete, they're returning to the fleet
when 9 French D.520's (GC I/3 in 3 loose vics of 3) are spotted closing in to
intercept.
>
> The Hurris firewall their throttles and peel off to confront.
>
> Yellow 3's pair of Hurris manage to gain a advantageous position on the lead
French patrouille, Blue1, and attack. The Brits are spotted at the last moment
and the 3 D.520's scatter in every direction. Each Brit takes after a separate
opponent but are unable to get a shot. Both formations are ruined.
>
> Seconds later it's Yellow 3's turn to evade as 3 more D.520's of Blue 3 go
after them. French weapons fire but nothing is hit.
>
> Meanwhile, Yellow 2 mixes in with Blue 1 and a serious dogfight breaks out.
After much firing on both sides, Yellow 21 latches onto Blue 13's tail and
shoots him down. Blue 12 returns the favor and riddles Yellow 21 badly, leaving
his crate barely able to fly. The survivors are low or out of ammo and decide to
call it a day.
>
> Yellow 1 is now forced to choose between rescuing Yellow 3 flight from Blue
3's persistent attention or trying to break up Blue 2's approach to the bombers.
Yellow Leader decides to help his mates and, wingman close behind, executes a
spectacular bounce of the very distracted French. When the smoke clears Blue 33
is shot down, Blue 32 is limping away trailing smoke, and both Hurris are out of
ammo. All this was bad news for the Albacores who suffered 1 shot down and 1
shot to ribbons, ditching shortly after. Rear gunner return fire was ineffective
and all 3 D.520's broke off unscathed.
>
> Yellow 21 was also forced to ditch short of his carrier.
>
> Final Tally: 2 D.520's shot down and 1 crippled, and 1 Sea Hurricane and 2
Albacores lost. Much less bloody than the actual combat.
>

Game report: Operation Torch off Oran, 8 November 1942.


6 Fleet Air Arm Sea Hurricane II's (1 flight in 3 sections of 2) escort 8
Albacores in 2 boxes of 4 each. Mission complete, they're returning to the fleet
when 9 French D.520's (GC I/3 in 3 loose vics of 3) are spotted closing in to
intercept.

The Hurris firewall their throttles and peel off to confront.

Yellow 3's pair of Hurris manage to gain a advantageous position on the lead
French patrouille, Blue1, and attack. The Brits are spotted at the last moment
and the 3 D.520's scatter in every direction. Each Brit takes after a separate
opponent but are unable to get a shot. Both formations are ruined.

Seconds later it's Yellow 3's turn to evade as 3 more D.520's of Blue 3 go after
them. French weapons fire but nothing is hit.

Meanwhile, Yellow 2 mixes in with Blue 1 and a serious dogfight breaks out.
After much firing on both sides, Yellow 21 latches onto Blue 13's tail and
shoots him down. Blue 12 returns the favor and riddles Yellow 21 badly, leaving
his crate barely able to fly. The survivors are low or out of ammo and decide to
call it a day.

Yellow 1 is now forced to choose between rescuing Yellow 3 flight from Blue 3's
persistent attention or trying to break up Blue 2's approach to the bombers.
Yellow Leader decides to help his mates and, wingman close behind, executes a
spectacular bounce of the very distracted French. When the smoke clears Blue 33
is shot down, Blue 32 is limping away trailing smoke, and both Hurris are out of
ammo. All this was bad news for the Albacores who suffered 1 shot down and 1
shot to ribbons, ditching shortly after. Rear gunner return fire was ineffective
and all 3 D.520's broke off unscathed.

Yellow 21 was also forced to ditch short of his carrier.

Final Tally: 2 D.520's shot down and 1 crippled, and 1 Sea Hurricane and 2
Albacores lost. Much less bloody than the actual combat.

I completely agree! We do the same thing with the box-miniatures in Birds of
Prey, using camouflage on the AJ and grey on the JA. It is hard to tell the two
types apart (even at full size), so using the most representative scheme is the
best differentiation mechanism.

Will you be doing any silver Viggens?


I'm sorry if my previous answers came across as argumentative. (Email often
doesn't convey tone well.) The Birds of Prey team did a bunch of research on the
Viggen schemes about a year ago, down to selecting Pantone colors to match both
schemes. I learned a fair amount during the process!

Cheers,
Phil


On Nov 16, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Fatman wrote:

> Phil
> As they say in the houses of parliment, I refer the gentleman to my previous
answer. I thought that more of the Viggens were used in the splinter camo but
stand correctted.  Mine will be used for 1980ish type scenarios and its an easy
way to tell the AJ and JA variants apart at a glance.
>
> Fatman
>
> --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, Philip Markgraf
<philip_markgraf@...> wrote:
>>
>> Can you provide an image of an in-service Gripen in splinter? I can't find
any and don't recall ever seeing one.
>>
>> The Gripen is decidedly multirole, so most should be tasked for air-to-mud as
well as air-to-air. Most air-to-ground work is done up high with PGMs at this
point, protecting the fighter from AAA and pop-up SAM threats, so I would expect
the paint to reflect the higher altitude operations.
>>
>>
>> Jaktviggen paint is splinter for the first batch or three (around thirty or
forty aircraft) before being shifted to gray... so it is not tied directly to
role.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Fatman wrote:
>>
>>> Most Grypens are painted Grey over Grey but the ones which will be tasked
for attack will be done in the four coulor scheme, same goes for the Viggens,
JA-37's the fighter version Grey, AJ-37's the attack version camo.
>>>
>>> Fatman
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, Philip Markgraf
<philip_markgraf@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Gripens are painted in two tone grey over grey, not the splinter scheme.
Similarly, most JaktViggens had an air superiority grey scheme (with kind of a
blueish gray).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Fatman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> BUGGER i am going blind painting Swedish four coulor splinter cammo on
your Viggens and now I'm going to have to do it on smaller Grypens, thanks a
bunch. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Seiously glad to see this one done and, in traditional never happy
wargamer style, when are you going to do Eurofighters?
>>>>>
>>>>> Fatman
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Marcin"
<marcin2501@> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This time large bunch of aircrafts:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SA-666 MiG-21F-13 (8 pcs) - first mass-produced version of this fighter
>>>>>> SA-667 T-72B (15 pcs) - version with stronger armour and ERA
>>>>>> MN-603 Saab JAS39 Grippen (8 pcs) - new Swedish jet fighter
>>>>>> WP-603 PT-91 Twardy (Hard) (15 pcs) - Polish licence-built T-72 with many
modifications
>>>>>> US-659 AAVP-7A1 (15 pcs) - upgraded LVT-7 with appliqué armour
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WWH-665 Ju-88A-1 (8 pcs) - early version of one of the best Luftwaffe
aircrafts
>>>>>> WPL-619 PZL.37 £o¶ (Moose) (8 pcs) - medium bomber, most modern Polish
aircraft in September 1939
>>>>>> WFR-626 CR.714 Cyclone (8 pcs) - light fighter of wooden construction,
flown by Polish pilots in 1940, despite order of withdrawing this plane from
active service!
>>>>>> WBR-634 Blenheim Mk IV (8 pcs) - standard British light bomber at the
beginning of the war
>>>>>> WIT-614 MC.200 Saetta (8 pcs) - monoplane fighter designed by famous
Mario Castoldi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Photos will follow soon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the best
>>>>>> Marcin
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Marcin while I'm being a pain in the butt  is the Rafale on the cards?

Fatman

--- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Marcin"
<marcin2501@...> wrote:
>
> Eurofighter is on my workbench ;)
>
> Marcin
>
> --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Fatman"
<fatman_bear1@> wrote:
> >
> > BUGGER i am going blind painting Swedish four coulor splinter cammo on your
Viggens and now I'm going to have to do it on smaller Grypens, thanks a bunch.
;-)
> >
> > Seiously glad to see this one done and, in traditional never happy wargamer
style, when are you going to do Eurofighters?
> >
> > Fatman
> >
> > --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Marcin"
<marcin2501@> wrote:
> > >
> > > This time large bunch of aircrafts:
> > >
> > > SA-666 MiG-21F-13 (8 pcs) - first mass-produced version of this fighter
> > > SA-667 T-72B (15 pcs) - version with stronger armour and ERA
> > > MN-603 Saab JAS39 Grippen (8 pcs) - new Swedish jet fighter
> > > WP-603 PT-91 Twardy (Hard) (15 pcs) - Polish licence-built T-72 with many
modifications
> > > US-659 AAVP-7A1 (15 pcs) - upgraded LVT-7 with appliqué armour
> > >
> > > WWH-665 Ju-88A-1 (8 pcs) - early version of one of the best Luftwaffe
aircrafts
> > > WPL-619 PZL.37 £o¶ (Moose) (8 pcs) - medium bomber, most modern Polish
aircraft in September 1939
> > > WFR-626 CR.714 Cyclone (8 pcs) - light fighter of wooden construction,
flown by Polish pilots in 1940, despite order of withdrawing this plane from
active service!
> > > WBR-634 Blenheim Mk IV (8 pcs) - standard British light bomber at the
beginning of the war
> > > WIT-614 MC.200 Saetta (8 pcs) - monoplane fighter designed by famous Mario
Castoldi
> > >
> > > Photos will follow soon
> > >
> > > All the best
> > > Marcin
> > >
> >
>

I am a silent lurker on the BoP group mate that's were I saw the news story. 
Not a big fan of the rules, I like games quick and dirty rather than technical. 
But there's a lot of very knowledgeable people on the group, and the Air Power
one, so I try to keep an eye on them.  Glad to here that everything was OK.  I
will try and post pics of the various SAABs once they are done.

Fatman

--- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, Philip Markgraf
<philip_markgraf@...> wrote:
>
> It will look very cool and I look forward to seeing a picture! Splinter is one
of my favorite schemes, ever. I wish the Swedes were using it!
>
>
> Wow, that article got around! (You can catch my wife and son on some of the
local TV news, which might be available on the internet.)
> My house is on a little rise, so we aren't having problems with the mud. A
couple of neighbors now have a yard full of mud and got a bit of water in the
house. It could have been considerably worse! Hopefully this will spur those at
risk to increase their protection against the mud, as this problem is expected
to persist for another few years until the vegetation builds up following the
fires.
>
> Thanks,
> Phil
>
>
> On Nov 16, 2009, at 11:00 AM, Fatman wrote:
>
> > Phil I must confess that I will be painting up my Grypens in Camo even if
the Swedes don't.  Marcus is right it is just so cool. ;-0
> >
> > On another note I saw the bit in the LA Times about you helping your
neighbours during the Mud slides.  Well done mate I hope everything is OK with
your home?
> >
> > Fatman
> >
> > --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, Philip Markgraf
<philip_markgraf@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Gripens are painted in two tone grey over grey, not the splinter scheme.
Similarly, most JaktViggens had an air superiority grey scheme (with kind of a
blueish gray).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Fatman wrote:
> >>
> >>> BUGGER i am going blind painting Swedish four coulor splinter cammo on
your Viggens and now I'm going to have to do it on smaller Grypens, thanks a
bunch. ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Seiously glad to see this one done and, in traditional never happy
wargamer style, when are you going to do Eurofighters?
> >>>
> >>> Fatman
> >>>
> >>> --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Marcin"
<marcin2501@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> This time large bunch of aircrafts:
> >>>>
> >>>> SA-666 MiG-21F-13 (8 pcs) - first mass-produced version of this fighter
> >>>> SA-667 T-72B (15 pcs) - version with stronger armour and ERA
> >>>> MN-603 Saab JAS39 Grippen (8 pcs) - new Swedish jet fighter
> >>>> WP-603 PT-91 Twardy (Hard) (15 pcs) - Polish licence-built T-72 with many
modifications
> >>>> US-659 AAVP-7A1 (15 pcs) - upgraded LVT-7 with appliqué armour
> >>>>
> >>>> WWH-665 Ju-88A-1 (8 pcs) - early version of one of the best Luftwaffe
aircrafts
> >>>> WPL-619 PZL.37 £o¶ (Moose) (8 pcs) - medium bomber, most modern Polish
aircraft in September 1939
> >>>> WFR-626 CR.714 Cyclone (8 pcs) - light fighter of wooden construction,
flown by Polish pilots in 1940, despite order of withdrawing this plane from
active service!
> >>>> WBR-634 Blenheim Mk IV (8 pcs) - standard British light bomber at the
beginning of the war
> >>>> WIT-614 MC.200 Saetta (8 pcs) - monoplane fighter designed by famous
Mario Castoldi
> >>>>
> >>>> Photos will follow soon
> >>>>
> >>>> All the best
> >>>> Marcin
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

Phil
As they say in the houses of parliment, I refer the gentleman to my previous
answer. I thought that more of the Viggens were used in the splinter camo but
stand correctted.  Mine will be used for 1980ish type scenarios and its an easy
way to tell the AJ and JA variants apart at a glance.

Fatman

--- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, Philip Markgraf
<philip_markgraf@...> wrote:
>
> Can you provide an image of an in-service Gripen in splinter? I can't find any
and don't recall ever seeing one.
>
> The Gripen is decidedly multirole, so most should be tasked for air-to-mud as
well as air-to-air. Most air-to-ground work is done up high with PGMs at this
point, protecting the fighter from AAA and pop-up SAM threats, so I would expect
the paint to reflect the higher altitude operations.
>
>
> Jaktviggen paint is splinter for the first batch or three (around thirty or
forty aircraft) before being shifted to gray... so it is not tied directly to
role.
>
>
>
> On Nov 16, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Fatman wrote:
>
> > Most Grypens are painted Grey over Grey but the ones which will be tasked
for attack will be done in the four coulor scheme, same goes for the Viggens,
JA-37's the fighter version Grey, AJ-37's the attack version camo.
> >
> > Fatman
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, Philip Markgraf
<philip_markgraf@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Gripens are painted in two tone grey over grey, not the splinter scheme.
Similarly, most JaktViggens had an air superiority grey scheme (with kind of a
blueish gray).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Fatman wrote:
> >>
> >>> BUGGER i am going blind painting Swedish four coulor splinter cammo on
your Viggens and now I'm going to have to do it on smaller Grypens, thanks a
bunch. ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Seiously glad to see this one done and, in traditional never happy
wargamer style, when are you going to do Eurofighters?
> >>>
> >>> Fatman
> >>>
> >>> --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Marcin"
<marcin2501@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> This time large bunch of aircrafts:
> >>>>
> >>>> SA-666 MiG-21F-13 (8 pcs) - first mass-produced version of this fighter
> >>>> SA-667 T-72B (15 pcs) - version with stronger armour and ERA
> >>>> MN-603 Saab JAS39 Grippen (8 pcs) - new Swedish jet fighter
> >>>> WP-603 PT-91 Twardy (Hard) (15 pcs) - Polish licence-built T-72 with many
modifications
> >>>> US-659 AAVP-7A1 (15 pcs) - upgraded LVT-7 with appliqué armour
> >>>>
> >>>> WWH-665 Ju-88A-1 (8 pcs) - early version of one of the best Luftwaffe
aircrafts
> >>>> WPL-619 PZL.37 £o¶ (Moose) (8 pcs) - medium bomber, most modern Polish
aircraft in September 1939
> >>>> WFR-626 CR.714 Cyclone (8 pcs) - light fighter of wooden construction,
flown by Polish pilots in 1940, despite order of withdrawing this plane from
active service!
> >>>> WBR-634 Blenheim Mk IV (8 pcs) - standard British light bomber at the
beginning of the war
> >>>> WIT-614 MC.200 Saetta (8 pcs) - monoplane fighter designed by famous
Mario Castoldi
> >>>>
> >>>> Photos will follow soon
> >>>>
> >>>> All the best
> >>>> Marcin
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

It will look very cool and I look forward to seeing a picture! Splinter is one
of my favorite schemes, ever. I wish the Swedes were using it!


Wow, that article got around! (You can catch my wife and son on some of the
local TV news, which might be available on the internet.)
My house is on a little rise, so we aren't having problems with the mud. A
couple of neighbors now have a yard full of mud and got a bit of water in the
house. It could have been considerably worse! Hopefully this will spur those at
risk to increase their protection against the mud, as this problem is expected
to persist for another few years until the vegetation builds up following the
fires.

Thanks,
Phil


On Nov 16, 2009, at 11:00 AM, Fatman wrote:

> Phil I must confess that I will be painting up my Grypens in Camo even if the
Swedes don't.  Marcus is right it is just so cool. ;-0
>
> On another note I saw the bit in the LA Times about you helping your
neighbours during the Mud slides.  Well done mate I hope everything is OK with
your home?
>
> Fatman
>
> --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, Philip Markgraf
<philip_markgraf@...> wrote:
>>
>> Gripens are painted in two tone grey over grey, not the splinter scheme.
Similarly, most JaktViggens had an air superiority grey scheme (with kind of a
blueish gray).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Fatman wrote:
>>
>>> BUGGER i am going blind painting Swedish four coulor splinter cammo on your
Viggens and now I'm going to have to do it on smaller Grypens, thanks a bunch.
;-)
>>>
>>> Seiously glad to see this one done and, in traditional never happy wargamer
style, when are you going to do Eurofighters?
>>>
>>> Fatman
>>>
>>> --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Marcin"
<marcin2501@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This time large bunch of aircrafts:
>>>>
>>>> SA-666 MiG-21F-13 (8 pcs) - first mass-produced version of this fighter
>>>> SA-667 T-72B (15 pcs) - version with stronger armour and ERA
>>>> MN-603 Saab JAS39 Grippen (8 pcs) - new Swedish jet fighter
>>>> WP-603 PT-91 Twardy (Hard) (15 pcs) - Polish licence-built T-72 with many
modifications
>>>> US-659 AAVP-7A1 (15 pcs) - upgraded LVT-7 with appliqué armour
>>>>
>>>> WWH-665 Ju-88A-1 (8 pcs) - early version of one of the best Luftwaffe
aircrafts
>>>> WPL-619 PZL.37 £o¶ (Moose) (8 pcs) - medium bomber, most modern Polish
aircraft in September 1939
>>>> WFR-626 CR.714 Cyclone (8 pcs) - light fighter of wooden construction,
flown by Polish pilots in 1940, despite order of withdrawing this plane from
active service!
>>>> WBR-634 Blenheim Mk IV (8 pcs) - standard British light bomber at the
beginning of the war
>>>> WIT-614 MC.200 Saetta (8 pcs) - monoplane fighter designed by famous Mario
Castoldi
>>>>
>>>> Photos will follow soon
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>> Marcin
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Can you provide an image of an in-service Gripen in splinter? I can't find any
and don't recall ever seeing one.

The Gripen is decidedly multirole, so most should be tasked for air-to-mud as
well as air-to-air. Most air-to-ground work is done up high with PGMs at this
point, protecting the fighter from AAA and pop-up SAM threats, so I would expect
the paint to reflect the higher altitude operations.


Jaktviggen paint is splinter for the first batch or three (around thirty or
forty aircraft) before being shifted to gray... so it is not tied directly to
role.



On Nov 16, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Fatman wrote:

> Most Grypens are painted Grey over Grey but the ones which will be tasked for
attack will be done in the four coulor scheme, same goes for the Viggens,
JA-37's the fighter version Grey, AJ-37's the attack version camo.
>
> Fatman
>
>
>
> --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, Philip Markgraf
<philip_markgraf@...> wrote:
>>
>> Gripens are painted in two tone grey over grey, not the splinter scheme.
Similarly, most JaktViggens had an air superiority grey scheme (with kind of a
blueish gray).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Fatman wrote:
>>
>>> BUGGER i am going blind painting Swedish four coulor splinter cammo on your
Viggens and now I'm going to have to do it on smaller Grypens, thanks a bunch.
;-)
>>>
>>> Seiously glad to see this one done and, in traditional never happy wargamer
style, when are you going to do Eurofighters?
>>>
>>> Fatman
>>>
>>> --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Marcin"
<marcin2501@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This time large bunch of aircrafts:
>>>>
>>>> SA-666 MiG-21F-13 (8 pcs) - first mass-produced version of this fighter
>>>> SA-667 T-72B (15 pcs) - version with stronger armour and ERA
>>>> MN-603 Saab JAS39 Grippen (8 pcs) - new Swedish jet fighter
>>>> WP-603 PT-91 Twardy (Hard) (15 pcs) - Polish licence-built T-72 with many
modifications
>>>> US-659 AAVP-7A1 (15 pcs) - upgraded LVT-7 with appliqué armour
>>>>
>>>> WWH-665 Ju-88A-1 (8 pcs) - early version of one of the best Luftwaffe
aircrafts
>>>> WPL-619 PZL.37 £o¶ (Moose) (8 pcs) - medium bomber, most modern Polish
aircraft in September 1939
>>>> WFR-626 CR.714 Cyclone (8 pcs) - light fighter of wooden construction,
flown by Polish pilots in 1940, despite order of withdrawing this plane from
active service!
>>>> WBR-634 Blenheim Mk IV (8 pcs) - standard British light bomber at the
beginning of the war
>>>> WIT-614 MC.200 Saetta (8 pcs) - monoplane fighter designed by famous Mario
Castoldi
>>>>
>>>> Photos will follow soon
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>> Marcin
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Phil I must confess that I will be painting up my Grypens in Camo even if the
Swedes don't.  Marcus is right it is just so cool. ;-0

On another note I saw the bit in the LA Times about you helping your neighbours
during the Mud slides.  Well done mate I hope everything is OK with your home?

Fatman

--- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, Philip Markgraf
<philip_markgraf@...> wrote:
>
> Gripens are painted in two tone grey over grey, not the splinter scheme.
Similarly, most JaktViggens had an air superiority grey scheme (with kind of a
blueish gray).
>
>
>
> On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Fatman wrote:
>
> > BUGGER i am going blind painting Swedish four coulor splinter cammo on your
Viggens and now I'm going to have to do it on smaller Grypens, thanks a bunch.
;-)
> >
> > Seiously glad to see this one done and, in traditional never happy wargamer
style, when are you going to do Eurofighters?
> >
> > Fatman
> >
> > --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Marcin"
<marcin2501@> wrote:
> >>
> >> This time large bunch of aircrafts:
> >>
> >> SA-666 MiG-21F-13 (8 pcs) - first mass-produced version of this fighter
> >> SA-667 T-72B (15 pcs) - version with stronger armour and ERA
> >> MN-603 Saab JAS39 Grippen (8 pcs) - new Swedish jet fighter
> >> WP-603 PT-91 Twardy (Hard) (15 pcs) - Polish licence-built T-72 with many
modifications
> >> US-659 AAVP-7A1 (15 pcs) - upgraded LVT-7 with appliqué armour
> >>
> >> WWH-665 Ju-88A-1 (8 pcs) - early version of one of the best Luftwaffe
aircrafts
> >> WPL-619 PZL.37 £o¶ (Moose) (8 pcs) - medium bomber, most modern Polish
aircraft in September 1939
> >> WFR-626 CR.714 Cyclone (8 pcs) - light fighter of wooden construction,
flown by Polish pilots in 1940, despite order of withdrawing this plane from
active service!
> >> WBR-634 Blenheim Mk IV (8 pcs) - standard British light bomber at the
beginning of the war
> >> WIT-614 MC.200 Saetta (8 pcs) - monoplane fighter designed by famous Mario
Castoldi
> >>
> >> Photos will follow soon
> >>
> >> All the best
> >> Marcin
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

Oooooooooh goody.  That will give me an insentive to finish a couple of articles
I have sitting part completed.

Fatman

--- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Marcin"
<marcin2501@...> wrote:
>
> Eurofighter is on my workbench ;)
>
> Marcin
>
> --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Fatman"
<fatman_bear1@> wrote:
> >
> > BUGGER i am going blind painting Swedish four coulor splinter cammo on your
Viggens and now I'm going to have to do it on smaller Grypens, thanks a bunch.
;-)
> >
> > Seiously glad to see this one done and, in traditional never happy wargamer
style, when are you going to do Eurofighters?
> >
> > Fatman
> >
> > --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Marcin"
<marcin2501@> wrote:
> > >
> > > This time large bunch of aircrafts:
> > >
> > > SA-666 MiG-21F-13 (8 pcs) - first mass-produced version of this fighter
> > > SA-667 T-72B (15 pcs) - version with stronger armour and ERA
> > > MN-603 Saab JAS39 Grippen (8 pcs) - new Swedish jet fighter
> > > WP-603 PT-91 Twardy (Hard) (15 pcs) - Polish licence-built T-72 with many
modifications
> > > US-659 AAVP-7A1 (15 pcs) - upgraded LVT-7 with appliqué armour
> > >
> > > WWH-665 Ju-88A-1 (8 pcs) - early version of one of the best Luftwaffe
aircrafts
> > > WPL-619 PZL.37 £o¶ (Moose) (8 pcs) - medium bomber, most modern Polish
aircraft in September 1939
> > > WFR-626 CR.714 Cyclone (8 pcs) - light fighter of wooden construction,
flown by Polish pilots in 1940, despite order of withdrawing this plane from
active service!
> > > WBR-634 Blenheim Mk IV (8 pcs) - standard British light bomber at the
beginning of the war
> > > WIT-614 MC.200 Saetta (8 pcs) - monoplane fighter designed by famous Mario
Castoldi
> > >
> > > Photos will follow soon
> > >
> > > All the best
> > > Marcin
> > >
> >
>

Most Grypens are painted Grey over Grey but the ones which will be tasked for
attack will be done in the four coulor scheme, same goes for the Viggens,
JA-37's the fighter version Grey, AJ-37's the attack version camo.

Fatman



--- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, Philip Markgraf
<philip_markgraf@...> wrote:
>
> Gripens are painted in two tone grey over grey, not the splinter scheme.
Similarly, most JaktViggens had an air superiority grey scheme (with kind of a
blueish gray).
>
>
>
> On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Fatman wrote:
>
> > BUGGER i am going blind painting Swedish four coulor splinter cammo on your
Viggens and now I'm going to have to do it on smaller Grypens, thanks a bunch.
;-)
> >
> > Seiously glad to see this one done and, in traditional never happy wargamer
style, when are you going to do Eurofighters?
> >
> > Fatman
> >
> > --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Marcin"
<marcin2501@> wrote:
> >>
> >> This time large bunch of aircrafts:
> >>
> >> SA-666 MiG-21F-13 (8 pcs) - first mass-produced version of this fighter
> >> SA-667 T-72B (15 pcs) - version with stronger armour and ERA
> >> MN-603 Saab JAS39 Grippen (8 pcs) - new Swedish jet fighter
> >> WP-603 PT-91 Twardy (Hard) (15 pcs) - Polish licence-built T-72 with many
modifications
> >> US-659 AAVP-7A1 (15 pcs) - upgraded LVT-7 with appliqué armour
> >>
> >> WWH-665 Ju-88A-1 (8 pcs) - early version of one of the best Luftwaffe
aircrafts
> >> WPL-619 PZL.37 £o¶ (Moose) (8 pcs) - medium bomber, most modern Polish
aircraft in September 1939
> >> WFR-626 CR.714 Cyclone (8 pcs) - light fighter of wooden construction,
flown by Polish pilots in 1940, despite order of withdrawing this plane from
active service!
> >> WBR-634 Blenheim Mk IV (8 pcs) - standard British light bomber at the
beginning of the war
> >> WIT-614 MC.200 Saetta (8 pcs) - monoplane fighter designed by famous Mario
Castoldi
> >>
> >> Photos will follow soon
> >>
> >> All the best
> >> Marcin
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

Eurofighter is on my workbench ;)

Marcin

--- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Fatman"
<fatman_bear1@...> wrote:
>
> BUGGER i am going blind painting Swedish four coulor splinter cammo on your
Viggens and now I'm going to have to do it on smaller Grypens, thanks a bunch.
;-)
>
> Seiously glad to see this one done and, in traditional never happy wargamer
style, when are you going to do Eurofighters?
>
> Fatman
>
> --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Marcin"
<marcin2501@> wrote:
> >
> > This time large bunch of aircrafts:
> >
> > SA-666 MiG-21F-13 (8 pcs) - first mass-produced version of this fighter
> > SA-667 T-72B (15 pcs) - version with stronger armour and ERA
> > MN-603 Saab JAS39 Grippen (8 pcs) - new Swedish jet fighter
> > WP-603 PT-91 Twardy (Hard) (15 pcs) - Polish licence-built T-72 with many
modifications
> > US-659 AAVP-7A1 (15 pcs) - upgraded LVT-7 with appliqué armour
> >
> > WWH-665 Ju-88A-1 (8 pcs) - early version of one of the best Luftwaffe
aircrafts
> > WPL-619 PZL.37 £o¶ (Moose) (8 pcs) - medium bomber, most modern Polish
aircraft in September 1939
> > WFR-626 CR.714 Cyclone (8 pcs) - light fighter of wooden construction, flown
by Polish pilots in 1940, despite order of withdrawing this plane from active
service!
> > WBR-634 Blenheim Mk IV (8 pcs) - standard British light bomber at the
beginning of the war
> > WIT-614 MC.200 Saetta (8 pcs) - monoplane fighter designed by famous Mario
Castoldi
> >
> > Photos will follow soon
> >
> > All the best
> > Marcin
> >
>

Gripens are painted in two tone grey over grey, not the splinter scheme.
Similarly, most JaktViggens had an air superiority grey scheme (with kind of a
blueish gray).



On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Fatman wrote:

> BUGGER i am going blind painting Swedish four coulor splinter cammo on your
Viggens and now I'm going to have to do it on smaller Grypens, thanks a bunch.
;-)
>
> Seiously glad to see this one done and, in traditional never happy wargamer
style, when are you going to do Eurofighters?
>
> Fatman
>
> --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Marcin"
<marcin2501@...> wrote:
>>
>> This time large bunch of aircrafts:
>>
>> SA-666 MiG-21F-13 (8 pcs) - first mass-produced version of this fighter
>> SA-667 T-72B (15 pcs) - version with stronger armour and ERA
>> MN-603 Saab JAS39 Grippen (8 pcs) - new Swedish jet fighter
>> WP-603 PT-91 Twardy (Hard) (15 pcs) - Polish licence-built T-72 with many
modifications
>> US-659 AAVP-7A1 (15 pcs) - upgraded LVT-7 with appliqué armour
>>
>> WWH-665 Ju-88A-1 (8 pcs) - early version of one of the best Luftwaffe
aircrafts
>> WPL-619 PZL.37 £o¶ (Moose) (8 pcs) - medium bomber, most modern Polish
aircraft in September 1939
>> WFR-626 CR.714 Cyclone (8 pcs) - light fighter of wooden construction, flown
by Polish pilots in 1940, despite order of withdrawing this plane from active
service!
>> WBR-634 Blenheim Mk IV (8 pcs) - standard British light bomber at the
beginning of the war
>> WIT-614 MC.200 Saetta (8 pcs) - monoplane fighter designed by famous Mario
Castoldi
>>
>> Photos will follow soon
>>
>> All the best
>> Marcin
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

We are going to have to get a spell checker or an edit button, or I'm going to
have to learn to type better.

That should be seriously, glad to see this one

Fatman

--- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Fatman"
<fatman_bear1@...> wrote:
>
> BUGGER i am going blind painting Swedish four coulor splinter cammo on your
Viggens and now I'm going to have to do it on smaller Grypens, thanks a bunch.
;-)
>
> Seiously glad to see this one done and, in traditional never happy wargamer
style, when are you going to do Eurofighters?
>
> Fatman
>
> --- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Marcin"
<marcin2501@> wrote:
> >
> > This time large bunch of aircrafts:
> >
> > SA-666 MiG-21F-13 (8 pcs) - first mass-produced version of this fighter
> > SA-667 T-72B (15 pcs) - version with stronger armour and ERA
> > MN-603 Saab JAS39 Grippen (8 pcs) - new Swedish jet fighter
> > WP-603 PT-91 Twardy (Hard) (15 pcs) - Polish licence-built T-72 with many
modifications
> > US-659 AAVP-7A1 (15 pcs) - upgraded LVT-7 with appliqué armour
> >
> > WWH-665 Ju-88A-1 (8 pcs) - early version of one of the best Luftwaffe
aircrafts
> > WPL-619 PZL.37 £o¶ (Moose) (8 pcs) - medium bomber, most modern Polish
aircraft in September 1939
> > WFR-626 CR.714 Cyclone (8 pcs) - light fighter of wooden construction, flown
by Polish pilots in 1940, despite order of withdrawing this plane from active
service!
> > WBR-634 Blenheim Mk IV (8 pcs) - standard British light bomber at the
beginning of the war
> > WIT-614 MC.200 Saetta (8 pcs) - monoplane fighter designed by famous Mario
Castoldi
> >
> > Photos will follow soon
> >
> > All the best
> > Marcin
> >
>

BUGGER i am going blind painting Swedish four coulor splinter cammo on your
Viggens and now I'm going to have to do it on smaller Grypens, thanks a bunch.
;-)

Seiously glad to see this one done and, in traditional never happy wargamer
style, when are you going to do Eurofighters?

Fatman

--- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Marcin"
<marcin2501@...> wrote:
>
> This time large bunch of aircrafts:
>
> SA-666 MiG-21F-13 (8 pcs) - first mass-produced version of this fighter
> SA-667 T-72B (15 pcs) - version with stronger armour and ERA
> MN-603 Saab JAS39 Grippen (8 pcs) - new Swedish jet fighter
> WP-603 PT-91 Twardy (Hard) (15 pcs) - Polish licence-built T-72 with many
modifications
> US-659 AAVP-7A1 (15 pcs) - upgraded LVT-7 with appliqué armour
>
> WWH-665 Ju-88A-1 (8 pcs) - early version of one of the best Luftwaffe
aircrafts
> WPL-619 PZL.37 £o¶ (Moose) (8 pcs) - medium bomber, most modern Polish
aircraft in September 1939
> WFR-626 CR.714 Cyclone (8 pcs) - light fighter of wooden construction, flown
by Polish pilots in 1940, despite order of withdrawing this plane from active
service!
> WBR-634 Blenheim Mk IV (8 pcs) - standard British light bomber at the
beginning of the war
> WIT-614 MC.200 Saetta (8 pcs) - monoplane fighter designed by famous Mario
Castoldi
>
> Photos will follow soon
>
> All the best
> Marcin
>

Thats great to hear Marcin! Especially the CR.714 Cyclone! Im looking forward to
seeing some more Italian aircraft coming out too. Robert

--- In 1-600thMiniatureAircraftWargaming@yahoogroups.com, "Marcin"
<marcin2501@...> wrote:
>
> This time large bunch of aircrafts:
>
> SA-666 MiG-21F-13 (8 pcs) - first mass-produced version of this fighter
> SA-667 T-72B (15 pcs) - version with stronger armour and ERA
> MN-603 Saab JAS39 Grippen (8 pcs) - new Swedish jet fighter
> WP-603 PT-91 Twardy (Hard) (15 pcs) - Polish licence-built T-72 with many
modifications
> US-659 AAVP-7A1 (15 pcs) - upgraded LVT-7 with appliqué armour
>
> WWH-665 Ju-88A-1 (8 pcs) - early version of one of the best Luftwaffe
aircrafts
> WPL-619 PZL.37 £o¶ (Moose) (8 pcs) - medium bomber, most modern Polish
aircraft in September 1939
> WFR-626 CR.714 Cyclone (8 pcs) - light fighter of wooden construction, flown
by Polish pilots in 1940, despite order of withdrawing this plane from active
service!
> WBR-634 Blenheim Mk IV (8 pcs) - standard British light bomber at the
beginning of the war
> WIT-614 MC.200 Saetta (8 pcs) - monoplane fighter designed by famous Mario
Castoldi
>
> Photos will follow soon
>
> All the best
> Marcin
>

This time large bunch of aircrafts:

SA-666 MiG-21F-13 (8 pcs) - first mass-produced version of this fighter
SA-667 T-72B (15 pcs) - version with stronger armour and ERA
MN-603 Saab JAS39 Grippen (8 pcs) - new Swedish jet fighter
WP-603 PT-91 Twardy (Hard) (15 pcs) - Polish licence-built T-72 with many
modifications
US-659 AAVP-7A1 (15 pcs) - upgraded LVT-7 with appliqué armour

WWH-665 Ju-88A-1 (8 pcs) - early version of one of the best Luftwaffe aircrafts
WPL-619 PZL.37 £o¶ (Moose) (8 pcs) - medium bomber, most modern Polish aircraft
in September 1939
WFR-626 CR.714 Cyclone (8 pcs) - light fighter of wooden construction, flown by
Polish pilots in 1940, despite order of withdrawing this plane from active
service!
WBR-634 Blenheim Mk IV (8 pcs) - standard British light bomber at the beginning
of the war
WIT-614 MC.200 Saetta (8 pcs) - monoplane fighter designed by famous Mario
Castoldi

Photos will follow soon

All the best
Marcin

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